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anyone here been using these calipers?, Outlaw 4000, 4 piston, 3.5" bolt spacing ... |
SirAndy |
Jul 28 2008, 06:18 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
These look like nice Calipers, anyone here using them on a 914 ???
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp...=CALIPEROUT4000 QUOTE Outlaw 4000 Series Brake Calipers Outlaw Calipers are made from billet aluminum for strength with stainless steel pistons for thermal insulation. Differential piston bore sizes help to minimize pad taper wear. 4000 Caliper Series specifications: Housing Material: Billet Aluminum Mounting Centers: 3.50" Inlet Threads: 1/8 NPT No. Pistons: Four Piston Material: Stainless steel Disc Thickness: .38" - .81" - 1.25" Disc Diameter: 11.75" - 13.00" Pad Type: PFC751, HB101 Pad Area: 7.21 sq/inch. Pad Thickness: .80" (20,3 mm) Heat Shields: Stainless steel Weight: 3.9 lbs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy |
SirAndy |
Jul 28 2008, 07:01 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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736conver |
Jul 28 2008, 07:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,117 Joined: 25-May 03 From: SE Wisconsin Member No.: 736 Region Association: None |
I saw those when I was building my 3.2 conversion. Ending up with 951 calipers. I think I decided against them as they didnt have dust shields. Dont remember exactly
If you need any more info on them they are just down the road from me. I can go down and ask them. Was just down there last week for a Master cylinder for my go kart. |
URY914 |
Jul 28 2008, 07:18 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,725 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Several different people make really light calipers and I've looked at them very closely. They are pretty cheap too. Problem is the spacing of the mounting holes vs our mounting holes. They just don't fit with out fabbing an adapter with offsets or cutting the mounting ears off a strut and welding them back on to match the caliper.
Too much work-too little gain. |
SirAndy |
Jul 28 2008, 07:40 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Problem is the spacing of the mounting holes vs our mounting holes. They just don't fit with out fabbing an adapter with offsets or cutting the mounting ears off a strut and welding them back on to match the caliper. last time i checked, my 911 struts had 3.5" spacing ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Andy |
PeeGreen 914 |
Jul 28 2008, 07:49 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Problem is the spacing of the mounting holes vs our mounting holes. They just don't fit with out fabbing an adapter with offsets or cutting the mounting ears off a strut and welding them back on to match the caliper. last time i checked, my 911 struts had 3.5" spacing ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Andy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
URY914 |
Jul 28 2008, 08:08 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,725 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
911 struts different spacing than 914?
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So.Cal.914 |
Jul 28 2008, 08:29 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
914 = 3" spacing
911(later) = 3.5 They look a lot like my wilwoods. |
Dr Evil |
Jul 28 2008, 09:08 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,000 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Where is Shea-monkey with his expertise on the stopping parts?
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spaceshuttle |
Jul 28 2008, 09:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 25-November 06 From: SouthCarolina Member No.: 7,258 |
These look like nice Calipers, anyone here using them on a 914 ??? http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp...=CALIPEROUT4000 QUOTE Outlaw 4000 Series Brake Calipers Outlaw Calipers are made from billet aluminum for strength with stainless steel pistons for thermal insulation. Differential piston bore sizes help to minimize pad taper wear. 4000 Caliper Series specifications: Housing Material: Billet Aluminum Mounting Centers: 3.50" Inlet Threads: 1/8 NPT No. Pistons: Four Piston Material: Stainless steel Disc Thickness: .38" - .81" - 1.25" Disc Diameter: 11.75" - 13.00" Pad Type: PFC751, HB101 Pad Area: 7.21 sq/inch. Pad Thickness: .80" (20,3 mm) Heat Shields: Stainless steel Weight: 3.9 lbs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy I have those calipers on one of my V8 cars. It has 89 911 Carrera FE and was very simple on the fronts. The rears do indeed require fabbing. LC |
davep |
Jul 28 2008, 09:20 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,144 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
I'd rather use these:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?t=417654 Perfect fit, and parking brake solution. |
SirAndy |
Jul 28 2008, 11:34 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I'd rather use these: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?t=417654 Perfect fit, and parking brake solution. from the pelican thread: "Price point will be in the $4000.00 range" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Andy |
SirAndy |
Jul 28 2008, 11:35 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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Van914 |
Jul 29 2008, 07:30 AM
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Van914 Group: Members Posts: 698 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Cincinnati, Ohio Member No.: 90 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
ASndy,
We use Wilwoods on both the 914 race car and my street/track 914. Easy to change pads and not too much $ for the caliper. Van914 |
914helo |
Jul 29 2008, 09:11 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 235 Joined: 29-September 04 From: Southern Utah Member No.: 2,859 Region Association: None |
Which wilwoods can you use? How much fab work is involved? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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