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> On Topic: it's illegal to wash my 914, you guys will get a kick out of this...
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post Jan 29 2004, 11:11 PM
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With water restrictions here at the moment you can't wash your car using a garden hose, but you can wash using a watering can and use twice as much water as with a garden hose!! Work that out.
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post Jan 29 2004, 11:17 PM
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back in the day.... before hoses were invented, we used to make a spit brigade... from the sink, to the car, only to subvert the local ordinances.. about washing our cars.

I loved being on the sink end.

"Washing THIS car, Officer? Why? No, I was spitting on it!"



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post Jan 29 2004, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(Mockmaw @ Jan 29 2004, 07:07 PM)
I hope that last statement was a joke. It sounds like you haven't the slightest how grave a problem it is.

I guess it doesn't matter for you, you'll be dead before the real bad stuff happens. But your kids, and grandkids, and their kids won't.

The current real problem is more like the enormous amount of fuel burned with no catalytic converters or emissions control by the airline industry.

Washing your car (or not) is far down the list of things we ought to be worried about environmentally, quite frankly.
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post Jan 29 2004, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(itsa914 @ Jan 29 2004, 08:31 PM)
OK, I don't get it. Don't they have water treatment plants in CA? I live in NorthWest Indiana by Lake Michigan, we have 5 major steel mills and get this....
Water treatment plants (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Doesn't the sewer water get "treated / filtered"
before it heads out to the bay?? What about all
the oil and crap the is washed off the streets
after a rain does it just go straight to the Bay?

- Garold

I think in CA, all runoff water goes straight to the bay. I belive sewage gets treated.

CA is WAY behind on infrastructure like this - the roads here are pretty crappy and sparse. Our power system - you will have heard about. I believe since we are a big state, with a lot of environmental and social progression we don't have the money to invest in infrastructure upgrades, plus the organisational culture here is very much "focus on what you can change easily and ignore the rest", which I believe is responsible for the fact that the government here is even less efficient than everywhere else. We have the second highest income tax rate in the country after NY, don't we??

Still - personally - I love taxation without representation. It's my favorite meal of the day.
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post Jan 30 2004, 12:15 AM
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[quote=fiid,Jan 29 2004, 10:30 PM]

- Garold [/QUOTE]
I think in CA, all runoff water goes straight to the bay. I belive sewage gets treated.

[/quote]
Most areas have the runoff going to streams, rivers, lakes & oceans however, there is a push in some areas to have it diverted to the wastewater treatment plants. This is going to take a long time to accomplish. As for the car wash ban due to what comes off the body of the car, that's pretty minimal compared to what is already on the streets. I've also seen a lot of idiots dumping their changed motor oil into the storm drains.
I guess the City has got to start somewhere. I think it's the wrong "somewhere" tho. "Bandaid"

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post Jan 30 2004, 12:15 AM
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Well, having lived in both NY and Cali, I think I got more money for my tax dollar in NY. There were lots of state parks everywhere, they were well maintained. The State owned and operated the largest wildlife and forever wild area in the United States (Except Alaska).
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post Jan 30 2004, 04:13 AM
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QUOTE(James Adams @ Jan 29 2004, 08:46 PM)
Did you see Palo Alto Sewer Ordinance 16.09.105?

It is illegal for it to rain in Palo Alto, under the assumption that trace amounts of oil and heavy metals will be carried into drains and gutters, and on into the bay.

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Who pays the fine when it rains? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jan 30 2004, 05:08 AM
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it is for silly rules and regs like these that when i build my next house, it will have a 4 car garage with perimeter drains all around and a hose bib at every stall. with hot AND cold water. gonna wash my damn car inside and never tell a soul!!!!

'hey marge, why is that boys car always so gol' dern clean?'

'it's a mystery. just a mystery.'
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post Jan 30 2004, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE(itsa914 @ Jan 29 2004, 08:31 PM)
OK, I don't get it. Don't they have water treatment plants in CA? I live in NorthWest Indiana by Lake Michigan, we have 5 major steel mills and get this....
Water treatment plants (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Doesn't the sewer water get "treated / filtered"
before it heads out to the bay?? What about all
the oil and crap the is washed off the streets
after a rain does it just go straight to the Bay?

- Garold

We have water treatment plants for waste water from homes, factories etc.........but the crap on the streets gets washed down "storm drains" that drain direct to the ocean. So.....the point is, anything dumped in the storm drains, oil, dirt, pesticides, human waste....goes into the streams or storm drains....right offshore the fecal coliform levels quadruple after a rain.....makes surfing interesting.....
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post Jan 30 2004, 08:10 AM
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That is a 100% total BULLSHIT law! I'd write letters to my congressman and call him a pussy for allowing something that totally retarded to pass!
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post Jan 30 2004, 08:11 AM
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Oh, I hope you can write Spanish, cause he may not be able to read/write English!
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post Jan 30 2004, 08:17 AM
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The "HEY STOOPID" signs that are posted on the bridges and storm drains are in Spanish and English.
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post Jan 30 2004, 08:36 AM
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it is for silly rules and regs like these that when i build my next house, it will have a 4 car garage with perimeter drains all around and a hose bib at every stall. with hot AND cold water. gonna wash my damn car inside and never tell a soul!!!!


I tried to build a detached garage with a drain in the slab. The guy who ispected the footings said I would have to include an oil separator and get another permit.
I took the drain out.

Dave
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post Jan 30 2004, 09:50 AM
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Yeah, I have installed those oil separator drains before for garages. Pretty simple really, and they do work.

'Course when I was a kid and my dad changed the oil we dumped it in the street drain! There was no recycling.

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post Jan 30 2004, 10:00 AM
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You Cali guys laugh at our cold weather...WE laugh at your stooopid rules, high taxes, high housing costs, pea soup smog, lack of fresh water, crime, Michael Jackson, etc., etc., and so-on...

They don't bug us much out here in the country.


BTW I have my own water treatment plant...it's called a septic system.
I also have my own spring water source...a well.
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post Jan 30 2004, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(mikez @ Jan 30 2004, 05:11 AM)
....right offshore the fecal coliform levels quadruple after a rain.....

What does washing your car have to do with fecal levels in the seawater (unless the car you're washing is a piece of sh!t)??
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post Jan 30 2004, 10:45 AM
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Think fertilizer.....the car washing stuff has crud from the roads, like oil and other contaminated soot. Car washes trap this stuff, filter a lot on site and then release the waste water to drains that go thru the water treatment plant.

So, makes sense in a way...but there should be a clause that would allow self washing on a lawn on something....
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post Jan 30 2004, 10:54 AM
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Heck,

I just go to the store, buy a can of tuna, rub the oil on the car and let the cat lick it!

Works for me!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jan 30 2004, 10:59 AM
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This so cracks me up. Ok, so you can't wash your car because it will release polutants into the drainage? What pollutants? Road grime perhaps? Where does the road grime come from? Uh.... THE ROAD. And what happens when it rains? Uh... the road gets washed. Do these dumb $h!+$ know what the road is made out of? Ever seen a road crew doing a seal coat with oil & chips? Do you know what's coming out of that spray-bar? Seen the guys sealing cracks? Do you know what that goo is they're pressing into the seams? And you can't wash your car. MORONS! You are governed by MORONS. You have my deepest sympathy (unless you are one of the liberals who voted for them). If that liberal comment offends you then listen carefully: DOING THE RIGHT THING TAKES MORE THAN JUST GOOD INTENTIONS. This car washing law is an example of people who had good intentions (less pollution) and passed a useless ordinance to make themselves feel better about it.

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post Jan 30 2004, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(Red-Beard @ Jan 29 2004, 10:15 PM)
Well, having lived in both NY and Cali, I think I got more money for my tax dollar in NY. There were lots of state parks everywhere, they were well maintained.

New York doesn't have to provide schooling and medical services to that many illegal Canadians...
and isn't trying nearly so hard to drive businesses out of the state...
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