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> Another question for the /6 experts..., Multiple combo gauge part numbers?
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post Aug 18 2008, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 18 2008, 09:11 PM) *

914.641.101.10, COMB. INSTRUMENT, $86.31
914.641.101.20, COMB. INSTRUMENT, $271.13

well, now we know the difference ...



















the price (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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post Aug 18 2008, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 18 2008, 04:11 PM) *

Even better, how about the fact the BOTH are still available from Porsche?

914.641.101.10, COMB. INSTRUMENT, $86.31
914.641.101.20, COMB. INSTRUMENT, $271.13

Color me perpetually skeptical, but I'm not sure I'll believe that until someone orders and takes delivery of both.

Case in point - you can order an early 911 Targa windscreen seal by part number. It'll even come in a bag with the original part number on it. However, you will not get the original part - you'll get the 'superceding' part from a newer (1990+, IIRC) car.

Alas, I don't have the $350 to invest in this exercise, which I'm sure would be educational ;-)
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post Aug 18 2008, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(Gustl @ Aug 18 2008, 12:39 PM) *

I just checked my '71 six (very late built => COA says delivered on June 1st, 1971)

voila: 914.641.101.20 => this is the evidence that they exist (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)

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Gustl,

Any chance of you posting a pic of that gauge?
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post Aug 19 2008, 12:45 AM
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I'll try to do my best, but it's difficult due to the light situation (will need the flash light, which will cause reflections)
might take a couple of days ...

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post Aug 19 2008, 05:21 AM
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QUOTE(Steve Snyder @ Aug 19 2008, 04:57 AM) *

Any chance of you posting a pic of that gauge?

o.k. - here it is, although with a little reflection from the flash light ...

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post Aug 19 2008, 08:12 AM
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Well now, I think we found the differences between the two. Compare the picture at the beginning of this topic and Wolfgang's sporto combo. The .02 should work as a replacement for .01, just don't cross the wires.
Live and learn Rich. This is good interesting information to say the least.
Thanks Wolfgang.
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post Aug 19 2008, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(sixerdon @ Aug 19 2008, 10:12 AM) *

... just don't cross the wires.

They're all just indicator lights so you need to stick 'em into the right holes.

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Live and learn Rich.

I learn something every day, if it's a good day. (IMO, problems start when we think we can stop learning...)

Never did I say there -was- no difference (there are lots of weirdnesses in the Porsche parts books but I have yet to see two truly identical parts with different numbers. But I allow for the possibility it could happen, even though it would be highly uncharacteristically inefficient...)

All I ever said is 'we need more evidence than a listing (and a price) in the catalog.'

As we have evidence of the part, there's a really good case to be made that it exists. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

If you think I'm -completely- kidding, go spend some time with the 356 guys and you'll develop a new appreciation of the subtle variations of the word 'original.'

As in - if the factory re-issues a part now to replace a 50-year-old part under the original part number, is it, or isn't it, an 'original' part. Especially if it is -not- "identical" to the 50-year-old original-to-the-car original part?

Seriously - this has been a cool thread, and if I have been playing Devil's Advocate, it is only because I have been in search of the truth, rather than a circumstantial trail of documentary hints.

Thanks everyone for playing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 20 2008, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(Gustl @ Aug 19 2008, 07:21 AM) *

QUOTE(Steve Snyder @ Aug 19 2008, 04:57 AM) *

Any chance of you posting a pic of that gauge?

o.k. - here it is, although with a little reflection from the flash light ...

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Excellent! Thanks for posting that pic!
So, the /6 ".20" combo gauge turns out to be the logical transition to the 1973 /4 ".30" combo gauge... identical except for the temp insert (as would be expected (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ).

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Wolfgang, do you mind if I use that picture on my site (with appropriate credit)?
Thanks,
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post Aug 20 2008, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(Steve Snyder @ Aug 20 2008, 06:30 PM) *

Wolfgang, do you mind if I use that picture on my site (with appropriate credit)?

no problem (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 21 2008, 03:30 AM
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Steve, can you (or anyone else) please post a head on photo of a .10 gauge. I'd like to add these parts to the Parts Vault.
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post Aug 21 2008, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Aug 21 2008, 05:30 AM) *

Steve, can you (or anyone else) please post a head on photo of a .10 gauge. I'd like to add these parts to the Parts Vault.

Like this?

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post Aug 24 2008, 05:09 PM
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o.k. - here it is, although with a little reflection from the flash light ...


You're out of gas... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Aug 24 2008, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Aug 25 2008, 12:09 AM) *

You're out of gas... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


didn't you take a look to the rpm (IMG:http://www.oct.at/images/Smile_oh_no.gif)

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didn't you take a look to the rpm


Oooooooooo bummer. Your engine died too. Hope it's not serious! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

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currently she's getting 1st aid

valve adjustment, oil change, new shiftstick contact ...
but the "doctor" said she will be on the road within the next couple of days (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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How about a non-flash photo for the archives, Gustl... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Also, are you willing to check for date stamps on the back of the unit?
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Added these three to the Parts Vault.
Posted a plea for pictures/info in the garage.
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QUOTE(McMark @ Aug 26 2008, 06:18 AM) *

How about a non-flash photo for the archives, Gustl... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

that would require to remove the instrument from the car ... and this didn't happen yet ...


QUOTE(McMark @ Aug 26 2008, 06:18 AM) *

Also, are you willing to check for date stamps on the back of the unit?

same as above (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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so then 914.641.101.20 is for Sportomatics?
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QUOTE(gms @ Sep 16 2008, 08:43 PM) *

so then 914.641.101.20 is for Sportomatics?

One hesitates to use words like 'all' in dealing with Porsches, but - "all" /6's had the Sporto overtemp light (i.e. - no special gauge for the Sporto cars).

IIRC (could be wrong, there's a Sporto thread around here somewhere...) 'all' the factory Sporto's were '71's. the .20 gauge seems to be for the latest cars (last build).
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