Fatmat or Dynamat, How much do I need to buy? Options

[charliew]

Ok I have kinda wasted a really cool day in sep. which is bad. I found a product called Damplifier Pro, made by second skin, kinda sounds raunchy, that many claim is the best. Two guys could split a order for 80 sq. ft. from www.3rdstrike.biz it's 270.00 not counting freight. They get 155.00 for 40 sqft. They also have a neat stuff called motor mat for firewalls. My friend reminded me that we have free shipping at Eastwood so the dynamat price is somewhat less but still costly.

While your on the 3rd. site check out the babe for the day, it'll be worth the trip. At the bottom it says the shipping wt. is 110 lbs.

[Rod]

HI Guys, I'm over in the UK and am just about to embark on a complete interior refit on my 914. I have bought a bulk pack of Dynamat extreme which is a foil backed sticky matt, then two rolls of Motormat, which goes on top. these two together combine to cut out a hell of a lot of road noise. I've ordered a carpet set from appearance and performance, so hopefully the interior will be smart when done. I'll do a thread over here for you if you like, so you can see what I'm up too.

Here's my new car -

(IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/2008_0724spike20020-1.jpg)

And this is why I need to soundproof the interior (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

(IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/IMG_3265.jpg)

[turnaround89]

Im the one that put the dynamat in my vw. it has a roll cage bc it is a baja bug, so if i flip the thing off road i don't kill myself. the reason there is dynamat in the car is because i also use the car as a daily driver to college and work, so its nice to be able to listen to music and hold a conversation without yelling inside the car(same reason i am putting the sound deadener in my 914). the roll cage didn't add that much weight, the car doesn't need to be fast, thats why i bought a 914. Fun off road car, fantastic on road car. Best of both worlds!!

[carr914]

Rod, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Your car is beautiful, but I'm partial as I have owned two Olympic Blue 914s

FYI: I talked to Rick at Raamaudio and they had lost my order. He was very nice on the phone, gave me a few tips on install which I will try and let everyone know about as I use the product.

T.C.

[Heeltoe914]

[quote name='turnaround89' date='Sep 3 2008, 05:29 PM' post='1074797']
the car doesn't need to be fast, thats why i bought a 914.



I take offense to that statement? As soon as I get all four cylinders running and my car off jack stands I am going to race you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) move over.

[turnaround89]

Whoops, i should have added more to the sentence. The VW doesn't need to be fast(roll cage, dynamat, 60HP engine, big tires), thats why i bought i 914 because it is a quick/agile car. sorry!!

I am right where you are Heeltoe914, i drove my car for a week and it is now on jackstands. Im in the phase of replacing rusty floorpans and repainting, but it will soon be back on the road again. In the week that i was able to drive the car it beat the crap out of all my friends little ricer POS's, i haul around corners while they have to slow down. Its great, my 36 year old car sounds better and handles better and LOOKS way better than cars that are 3 years old(hon-duh). Gotta love German engineers.

Your car is beautiful

X2, I love that color!!

[carr914]

I got my RaaMmat today, so will be starting to install tomorrow. I'll post some pictures.

T.C.

[carr914]

Another thing about RaaMmat or the owner. Great customer service. Rick the owner has sent me 2 emails concerning how to properly install the product.

Also there was a small mistake on my order; I got 2 cans of adhesive instead of 3. I emailed Rick the owner, got an email right back apologizing and gave me a bigger than deserved credit for his mistake.

T.C.

[carr914]

Here is a picture of what I ordered. I start as soon as I get my coffee fix.

T.C.

[carr914]

First, you only need a few tools; a utility knife, a small sqeezge, and I used a wallpaper roller. You need gloves, as this stuff will stick. I put a pair of latex gloves on then a set of leather gardening gloves over them. If you just use latex, the adhesive will rip them off your hands.

Second, take out your interior.

Third, make sure your surface is clean. I KaBOOM'd it. Then I started laying the RaaMMat. Pretty easy. You get used to how long of pieces to use. I laid down the mat, pressed it down with my hands, then used my sqeezge, then the wallpaper roller.

T.C.

[carr914]

Next if your going to add another layer of RaaMmat (heck they give you alot of the stuff) (I am as the engine is right behind me and I'm going to be running headers into Mega-Phones (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) and I still want to hear the stereo.) you cut strips of the Ensolite and glue them to your 1st layer of Mat. The MAT will stick to itself, but does not like to stick to the Ensolite, that's why you use strips.

Then put your second layer of RaaMmat.

T.C.

I'm on a beer break (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) , next update in an hour or so.

[Root_Werks]

Sweet! Let us know if it helps in the noise department. I'd love to know. Another tip somone told me works great is to get a thicker, safety glass rear window. Helps increase the "R" value of the glass cutting even more noise.

[turnaround89]

I don't really understand what the Ensolite is used for. Wouldn't you want the RaaMmat to stick more to itself instead of creating a pocket where it won't stick? could you explain why you used the ensolite because i want to put some edead in my car and just want to know if the ensolite helps kill more sound? thanks

[VaccaRabite]

Ensolite is just used to seal the doors.
You don't put it under the Raamat, as far as I can tell.

The spray can is how you glue the Ensolite to the doors. It acts as a sound deadening moisture barrier.

Zach

[carr914]

I got the info about the strips of Ensolite from the owner of RaaMaudio Rick. Basically the Ensolite sandwich gives a different sound deadening effect.

T.C.

[carr914]

I don't really understand what the Ensolite is used for. Wouldn't you want the RaaMmat to stick more to itself instead of creating a pocket where it won't stick? could you explain why you used the ensolite because i want to put some edead in my car and just want to know if the ensolite helps kill more sound? thanks

I didn't get a pocket where it didn't stick. Rick explained to me that if I were to put a full sheet of Ensolite in the sandwich there could pockets. I sprayed adhesive over the strips and then put another layer of RaaMmat.

The way I see it, the RaaMmat keeps sounds from coming into the cabin and the Ensolite stops reverberation inside. If you look at a professional recording studio, the walls will be constructed with a ton of insulation and then will have foam walls.

Here is my Ensolite final layer. I'm letting the adhesive dry before I trim it.

T.C.

[carr914]

I'll be doing the doors next. While I'm out in the garage, I'm switching exhaust systems, put different air cleaners on. It's like 95 degrees out, so I can only take the heat in the garage so long before I take a break. And for someone that needs a knee replaced, crawling in and out of the car is tough.

T.C.

[carr914]

Ensolite is now trimmed then I put a layer of Perlon to look like a GT. The Velcro will be used to hold the the center section of the backpad.

T.C.

[carr914]

The interior back in. I also put on headers and Mega-phones, but even with the gnarly exhaust I can hear the stereo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

T.C.

[URY914]

T.C. came over to my hose today. It looks real good.

The car is loud as shit.