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> The new 911 s/Carerra, OT, but I need to vent
Pat Garvey
post Aug 17 2008, 09:40 PM
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Do I or don't I...........?
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Ok, this is my 3000th post. I saved this one because of how Porsche has delivered us "stalwarts" to unneccesary and even "backwoods".

Those of us who own classic 911's and 914's do most of our own work. Why, because the cars are relatively simple. Buy some books & tools - you can do most anything.

About 10 years ago Porsche lost me. They became too complicated to handle for a mere bean counter.

Just recently, I read an article about a 30 year member of PCA who bought a Cayman S,took it to the PCA Parade, and didn't know how to make the engine compartment visible for concours judging (He f_ing won!). Of course it was brand new! Wow, what a devastating win!

My point is - Porsches have become too complicated. Am I a fogey - bet your ass!

I don't want 300 dollar oil changes & transmission complexities that are meant for the track. I want relative simplicity.

I'm pushing retirement (well, actually I retired 5 years ago). I envisioned a 914/6GT or a 911RS as my retirement present to myself. or, just maybe a GT2. They've all priced themselves to levels that I don't want to commit to. May still happen.

But, my biggest problem is that Porsche, in my opinion is NOT Porcshe anymore They want us to "lease" every 4-5 years . The current management does not care about the Porscephiles that made them successful. They are not much different than GM or Ford. Yes, Porsche makles an excellent car, but one that any idiot can drive well. Everything that made a Porsche a car to be mastered has been removed/replaced by electronics.

Porsche is way too concerned with making money ( I wouldn't bitch if I could only buy some stock) and taking control of VW (why?)

Shouldn't they me trying for another entry level Porsche? Say, something around $28K, that an idiot like me could maintain? Nope, they've sold us out!

Yep, I'm pissed!

Pat

ps: Happy 3000th post to me!
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Pat Garvey   The new 911 s/Carerra   Aug 17 2008, 09:40 PM
smontanaro   Pat, I feel much the same way you do. One point ...   Aug 17 2008, 09:59 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Pat, Porsches are race cars. They always have been...   Aug 17 2008, 11:01 PM
SirAndy   I don't want ... The older we get, the less a...   Aug 17 2008, 11:21 PM
GeorgeRud   I remember back at a Porsche Parade when then chai...   Aug 17 2008, 11:33 PM
John   Pat, I know what you mean. Perhaps I don't h...   Aug 17 2008, 11:34 PM
turnaround89   I don't have near the experience with cars tha...   Aug 17 2008, 11:54 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I don't have near the experience with cars th...   Aug 18 2008, 12:32 AM
rjames   Why not just have the contest at the dealership ...   Aug 18 2008, 11:25 AM
championgt1   Why not just have the contest at the dealership...   Aug 18 2008, 11:29 AM
GeorgeRud   The scary part of a PCA concours is that the new, ...   Aug 18 2008, 11:54 AM
monkeyboy   The scary part of a PCA concours is that the new,...   Aug 18 2008, 12:15 PM
roadster fan   The scary part of a PCA concours is that the new...   Aug 18 2008, 12:38 PM
FourBlades   [quote name='monkeyboy' post='1068319' date='Aug ...   Aug 22 2008, 10:12 AM
Brando   Porsche, although the #1 supplier of race car chas...   Aug 18 2008, 05:08 PM
Racer   Don't forget to thank US and International Gov...   Aug 18 2008, 06:42 PM
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Brian Mifsud   I don't contribute very often, but I've be...   Aug 18 2008, 08:49 PM
Vacca Rabite   I have been around Porsche owners since I was 13. ...   Aug 19 2008, 12:42 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I have been around Porsche owners since I was 13....   Aug 19 2008, 12:50 PM
Jake Raby   As we have been developing the Boxster and 996/7 e...   Aug 19 2008, 01:04 PM
Bill D   Ok, this is my 3000th post. I saved this one bec...   Aug 19 2008, 01:32 PM
zymurgist   I agree. The Boxter should have been 700 lbs ligh...   Aug 19 2008, 03:22 PM
Brando   Just as Porsche will always have customers that bu...   Aug 19 2008, 03:45 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Back when the 356 became the spear carrier for Por...   Aug 21 2008, 08:35 PM
Brett W   I don't know about you guys but I see this fro...   Aug 21 2008, 11:44 PM
zymurgist   :agree: Lets see a Porsche go 264K 420,000 origi...   Aug 22 2008, 08:15 AM
thomasotten   Porsche is in business to make money. Why else...   Aug 22 2008, 08:36 AM
tornik550   I not a trained mechanic. I do it just for fun. ...   Aug 22 2008, 09:07 AM
PRS914-6   Pat, I understand your woes...I'm retired as w...   Aug 22 2008, 09:26 AM
naro914   Porsche is way too concerned with making money...   Aug 22 2008, 04:45 PM
Racer   I love this thread for the passion and debate it s...   Aug 22 2008, 05:39 PM


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