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post Aug 27 2008, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 26 2008, 01:16 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Aug 26 2008, 08:07 AM) *

I am too cheap to replace a perfectly decent battery with a sealed one...


Let's see if that adds up:
Sealed Optima Red Top = $155.00


Assuming a Car Battery has a normal lifespan of at least 5 years, here's a approx. list of
Mr. Towle's expenses:
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Recurring (assuming you work on it for ~1 hour):
1lb of Baking Soda = $2.20
1 Bucket of warm Water = $0.05
Blow Dryer electricity = $0.07
Touch up Paint = $7.30
Hourly Rate = $60.00
Subtotal = $69.62 * 5 Years = $348.10

One Time (assuming these items last 5 years):
Generic Spray Bottle = $1.89
Rubber Gloves = $3.60
Safety Glasses = $6.20
Battery Acid Mat = $4.50
Subtotal = $16.19

Total = $364.29


So, over the normal lifespan of a car battery, you spent more than twice as much money "doing it the cheap way"!
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I like your way of thinking Andy...Im takeing the Exide back tonite and buying one of these cool guy batteries .....That Exide wieghs as much as a fat chick... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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post Aug 27 2008, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(SLITS @ Aug 27 2008, 07:08 AM) *

Caustic Soda (Lye) is Sodium Hydroxide = a very strong base

Baking Soda is Sodium Bicarbonate = a weak base

Caustic is to reactive for most "normal" people to use ... reaction in water and or neutralizing acids is agressive and exothermic = Gets really hot and splatters on disassociation of molecule in water.

Hydroxide, Carbonate, Bicarbonate or Ammonia are basic. Battery breakers (recyclers) used to use Ammonia to neutralize acids.


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post Aug 27 2008, 10:03 AM
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Put the tin foil hat back on Paul.
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post Aug 27 2008, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 26 2008, 04:16 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Aug 26 2008, 08:07 AM) *

I am too cheap to replace a perfectly decent battery with a sealed one...


Let's see if that adds up:
Sealed Optima Red Top = $155.00


Assuming a Car Battery has a normal lifespan of at least 5 years, here's a approx. list of
Mr. Towle's expenses:
=======================

Recurring (assuming you work on it for ~1 hour):
1lb of Baking Soda = $2.20
1 Bucket of warm Water = $0.05
Blow Dryer electricity = $0.07
Touch up Paint = $7.30
Hourly Rate = $60.00
Subtotal = $69.62 * 5 Years = $348.10



Revise reality numbers...
1lb of Baking Soda = $2.20 (free stolen from wife)
1 Bucket of warm Water = $0.05 (free)
Blow Dryer electricity = $0.07 (air compressor, always full)
Touch up Paint = $7.30 (own it and if cleaned often no need)
Hourly Rate = $60.00 (please....I work for free, ask around)
Subtotal = Hmmm....looks free to me for maintenance.


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One Time (assuming these items last 5 years):
Generic Spray Bottle = $1.89
Rubber Gloves = $3.60
Safety Glasses = $6.20
Battery Acid Mat = $4.50
Subtotal = $16.19

Total = $364.29


Damn you are really hunting here...but I will bring it back to reality again.
Some of us have stocked shops....that is a place indoors with shelves already stocked ...(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Dont need to go to the store each time I work on the car.

One Time (assuming these items last 5 years):
Generic Spray Bottle = $1.89 (I own many, and I steal them from my wife when they are empty...I recycle...)
Rubber Gloves = $3.60 ( never use them, just advise others to)
Safety Glasses = $6.20 (ditto)
Battery Acid Mat = $4.50 (I use rubber that I have loads of, Zero cost)
Subtotal = Zero again...

Now, over the lifetime of the current battery I save the cost of the current battery and the replacement.
You did not factor in that I would basically loose the investment in the current battery that I have and that is fully functional.

$155.00 for a seal unit
$ 75.00 for the unsealed unit (thrown away)
Total cost to replace NOW...not gonna happen.

I dont believe in wasting money on things I dont need.
Unsealed batteries have been around a long time and with proper maintenance they last and dont ruin a car...every car I have has an unsealed battery and they all have the same issues.

Dont forget that with an Optima battery I need a special charger...more expense.

I did state that when the current battery (now 9 years old and counting) finally dies I will get a sealed one.

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post Aug 27 2008, 12:24 PM
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Put the tin foil hat back on Paul.


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post Aug 27 2008, 03:07 PM
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Looks like a PC925. What I want to know is where did the tray adapter come from? Looks like it fits into a stock 914 battery tray. I don't see it listed on Oddyssey's website anywhere. Looks very nice.
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post Aug 27 2008, 10:11 PM
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I made it from 1" boat floor board material.
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post Aug 28 2008, 06:43 AM
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long cables to reach from the truck bed to the 914 huh? adjusters?

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post Aug 28 2008, 07:38 AM
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to busy to pick em up, friday.
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