Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> My WCR 09 Thread, Time to get started
DNHunt
post Sep 27 2008, 01:15 PM
Post #1


914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn.
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,099
Joined: 21-April 03
From: Gig Harbor, WA
Member No.: 598



I promised my daughter a trip through the redwoods and down the California coast. My list of projects isn't long, three things really. Install new struts and bleed brakes, rebuild my engine and tune said engine. The problem is I haven't gotten the last 2 things right in the last few tries. I'm allowing plenty of time go around. This build will succeed!

Poor car on jack stands


Attached Image


Attached Image



So, here I go

Dave
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
DNHunt
post Sep 27 2008, 02:18 PM
Post #2


914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn.
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,099
Joined: 21-April 03
From: Gig Harbor, WA
Member No.: 598



I'm going to try and document my engine build paying attention to everything I can. This will be a 2382, 98 X 78.6.

I started a while ago with case selection. Supposedly 1.7l cases are better EA I guess but I have 2 GA cases. One I sent to get machined and the other I had done locally. Choosing between the 2 I looked at the case split between the main bearings. movement of the case halves will cause a dull gray look and loss of machining marks. This case shows it was moving.

Attached Image

I would have preferred it look more like this but, those are hard to find around the center main. It is brighter silver colored and you can see machine marks still.

Attached Image

As a quick test you can use a not too worn old bearing to see if the the journal are enlarged. If it slips in and out easily align bore for sure. If it is tight keep checking.

Attached Image

Bolt it together and see if you can catch the parting line with a finger nail. If you can you should probably align bore.

Attached Image

Finally, if all of that looks pretty good you can measure the bores with a bore gauge or have your machinist do it. This case had an oval shaped bore and had been moving so it got align bored and decked. I'm still hoping the other case is better.

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
DNHunt
post Sep 27 2008, 02:32 PM
Post #3


914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn.
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,099
Joined: 21-April 03
From: Gig Harbor, WA
Member No.: 598



Ah, galley plugs. Removing the pressed in factory one helps assure no leaks and gives you access to clean the passages better.

Here's what I use a 5/16 drill to pop through the stock plug. Often they come out on this drill. If not I use a #4 extractor and wiggle and work it backwards. I prep the hole with a 37/64 drill in a drill press and tap with a 3/8 NPT tap.

Attached Image

There are 3 in the back of the case,

Attached Image

and 2 in the passenger side front.

Attached Image

Here it is on the drill press.

Attached Image

And here is the tap.

Attached Image

Beware of the passenger side back closest to the parting line. THe passage to the rear cam bearing is pretty close to the surface and if the plug sets too deeply into the case oil can be resricted to that bearing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
DNHunt
post Sep 27 2008, 02:50 PM
Post #4


914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn.
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,099
Joined: 21-April 03
From: Gig Harbor, WA
Member No.: 598



My pistons and cylinders arrived so it was time to find out what they were like. The first thing I did was measure stuff. I measured the area that fits into the case register so I could anticipate the diameter of the shims I will need. I measured them at room temp and at 400 degrees. These are Nickies and the aluminum will expand more than the steel shims.

Attached Image

I also measured the height to see if they were the same and they are.

Next I checked piston to cylinder clearance. This should be set at the machinist but, I wanted to verify it. First I used the cylinder bore gauge. I would expect with iron cylinders that piston to cylinder clearance would change with heat and the room temp reading I had would be way to tight at operating temps. On the opposite side I would expect ring gaps done at room temp would be fine at operating temps.

Attached Image

Then I measured the diameter of the piston 1/2 " from the bottom of the skirt. Nice and tight.

Attached Image

I slipped the piston into the cylinder and it slides through slowly on it's own.

Attached Image

Attached Image

The under side shows it's nice and tight.

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
DNHunt
post Sep 27 2008, 02:56 PM
Post #5


914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn.
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,099
Joined: 21-April 03
From: Gig Harbor, WA
Member No.: 598



Gapping rings was next.

Since the cylinders are aluminum and the rings are iron I checked the gap at 400 degrees, 65 degrees and 25 degrees. At running temps the gaps are very near what the ring suppliers suggest. I don't think I'll start it at 20 degrees.

Attached Image

That's all for now. The pistons are off so everything can get balanced.

Dave
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Todd Enlund
post Sep 27 2008, 11:52 PM
Post #6


Resident Photoshop Guru
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,251
Joined: 24-August 07
From: Laurelhurst (Portland), Oregon
Member No.: 8,032
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)

I'll be watching this thread for sure. Go get 'em, Dave!

I'm hopeful that my car will make '09... but it's not likely.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
messix
post Sep 28 2008, 12:00 AM
Post #7


AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"!
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 6,995
Joined: 14-April 05
From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada
Member No.: 3,931
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



good to see you working on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
dw914er
post Sep 28 2008, 12:13 AM
Post #8


Planning Cities
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,364
Joined: 1-March 08
From: Yucaipa, CA
Member No.: 8,763
Region Association: Southern California



rock on!!!!!! Hopefully I'll get to see the final result at WCR!!!
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
DNHunt
post Sep 28 2008, 08:29 AM
Post #9


914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn.
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,099
Joined: 21-April 03
From: Gig Harbor, WA
Member No.: 598



QUOTE
good to see you working on it. smilie_pokal.gif


Can't give up.

QUOTE
rock on!!!!!! Hopefully I'll get to see the final result at WCR!!!


Gonna whip this thing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif) .

Dave
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
jim_hoyland
post Sep 28 2008, 10:27 PM
Post #10


Get that VIN ?
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 9,303
Joined: 1-May 03
From: Sunset Beach, CA
Member No.: 643
Region Association: Southern California



QUOTE(DNHunt @ Sep 28 2008, 07:29 AM) *

QUOTE
good to see you working on it. smilie_pokal.gif


Can't give up.

QUOTE
rock on!!!!!! Hopefully I'll get to see the final result at WCR!!!


Gonna whip this thing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif) .

Dave


Looks good Dave !
Was the WCR 2008 ride too confortable ?


Attached image(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Root_Werks
post Sep 29 2008, 10:18 AM
Post #11


Village Idiot
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 8,321
Joined: 25-May 04
From: About 5NM from Canada
Member No.: 2,105
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



Keep us posted Dave. I'll be doin' the 4cyl thing for quite a while myself. This should be a very interesting thread for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Tom
post Oct 2 2008, 06:29 PM
Post #12


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,139
Joined: 21-August 05
From: Port Orchard, WA 98367
Member No.: 4,626
Region Association: None



Great pics, Dave. You'll get it this time. Let us know if you need any tool handers or real help.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 21st May 2024 - 02:58 AM