 McIntosh audio in a 914, Sound quality in a fourteener?? |
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| monkeyboy |
 Feb 11 2009, 11:13 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 8-June 08 From: Los Angeles, Ca Member No.: 9,147 Region Association: None  |
Did you do any charging modifications to keep up with that amp? I know my Soundstream Class A 10.0 has a 60 or 80 amp fuse on it. Can the charging system handle that much of a load?
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| Rod |
Feb 11 2009, 11:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Farnham UK Member No.: 8,526 Region Association: England |
QUOTE(monkeyboy @ Feb 11 2009, 05:13 PM)  Did you do any charging modifications to keep up with that amp? I know my Soundstream Class A 10.0 has a 60 or 80 amp fuse on it. Can the charging system handle that much of a load? If necessary I will have the alternator rewound to give me a higher output (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) All I have done so far is improve the cabling throughout and the battery is an Odyssey. The original loom is not being used for any form of audio equipment, the feeds all come from that Streetwires combo block in the rear. The next job on the list is an engine stripdown check and rebuild - so I'll cross the alternator bridge when it's out of the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The Soundstream Class A does have an 80 amp fuse in it, but it only ever drew that sort of power when running 6 x 10inch subs at 145db!!! The McIntosh will not pull that much power, I have had it running at normal listening volumes and it needs 7.5 - 12amps. |
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| Zundfolge |
Feb 11 2009, 11:57 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 847 Joined: 12-August 07 From: Colorado Springs Member No.: 7,994 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Beautiful setup!
Should sound wonderful (at least when parked ... dunno how good its going to sound wizzing down the road with the top down. I don't even have a radio in my car, but with the Kerry Hunter header and Supertrapp I wouldn't be able to hear it anyway (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) |
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| dkjens |
Feb 11 2009, 03:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 159 Joined: 24-November 08 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 9,785 Region Association: None |
Has anybody tried BassShakers in a Teener?
I had one set of these http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.c...tnumber=299-028 except mine were not the Pro, but a set rated at only 35W screwed to the floor boards under the front seats of my '93 Chevy C1500 truck. Everybody who rode in that truck looked around for the big "box" because they really had that effect. At the time I paid $100.00 for the set, and they did eventually burn out (I powered them with a 200W amp). Later I got a promotional email and I picked up four sets of these (eight units total) for $100.00. I don't have the rear vinyl cover on my firewall, so I'm thinking of mounting maybe four on the firewall between the seats, and two more in the floor in front of each seat. |
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| Rod |
Feb 11 2009, 03:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Farnham UK Member No.: 8,526 Region Association: England |
QUOTE(dkjens @ Feb 11 2009, 09:07 PM) Has anybody tried BassShakers in a Teener? I had one set of these http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.c...tnumber=299-028 except mine were not the Pro, but a set rated at only 35W screwed to the floor boards under the front seats of my '93 Chevy C1500 truck. Everybody who rode in that truck looked around for the big "box" because they really had that effect. At the time I paid $100.00 for the set, and they did eventually burn out (I powered them with a 200W amp). Later I got a promotional email and I picked up four sets of these (eight units total) for $100.00. I don't have the rear vinyl cover on my firewall, so I'm thinking of mounting maybe four on the firewall between the seats, and two more in the floor in front of each seat. Personally I have never used one, I remember them coming to market and heard good reviews, but I have never heard one or installed one. Maybe someone else has hopefully - they go against my ideas of Sound quality (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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| monkeyboy |
Feb 12 2009, 03:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 8-June 08 From: Los Angeles, Ca Member No.: 9,147 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Rod @ Feb 11 2009, 09:19 AM) QUOTE(monkeyboy @ Feb 11 2009, 05:13 PM) Did you do any charging modifications to keep up with that amp? I know my Soundstream Class A 10.0 has a 60 or 80 amp fuse on it. Can the charging system handle that much of a load? If necessary I will have the alternator rewound to give me a higher output (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) All I have done so far is improve the cabling throughout and the battery is an Odyssey. The original loom is not being used for any form of audio equipment, the feeds all come from that Streetwires combo block in the rear. The next job on the list is an engine stripdown check and rebuild - so I'll cross the alternator bridge when it's out of the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The Soundstream Class A does have an 80 amp fuse in it, but it only ever drew that sort of power when running 6 x 10inch subs at 145db!!! The McIntosh will not pull that much power, I have had it running at normal listening volumes and it needs 7.5 - 12amps. Cool. I have never monitored what the amps were doing in real time. I just make sure I have enough reserve capacity for a balls out run. The two Odysseys and a 240 amp alternator in my truck should cover it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But then I am running a Class A 10.0, a Class A Picasso, and a Reference 1000s in my truck. I don't want to run out of juice. |
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| Rod |
Feb 12 2009, 03:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Farnham UK Member No.: 8,526 Region Association: England |
QUOTE Cool. I have never monitored what the amps were doing in real time. I just make sure I have enough reserve capacity for a balls out run. The two Odysseys and a 240 amp alternator in my truck should cover it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But then I am running a Class A 10.0, a Class A Picasso, and a Reference 1000s in my truck. I don't want to run out of juice. Cool system! I'm into Soundstream stuff too, I have a Class A 10.2, Picasso, renoir and a Balanced XO to run it all, and two Soundstream SS10rs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
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| Cevan |
Feb 12 2009, 05:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,079 Joined: 11-December 06 From: Western Massachusetts Member No.: 7,351 |
Rod, how did you make the sub enclosure? Any pictures of that process?
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| monkeyboy |
Feb 13 2009, 03:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 8-June 08 From: Los Angeles, Ca Member No.: 9,147 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Rod @ Feb 12 2009, 01:39 PM) QUOTE Cool. I have never monitored what the amps were doing in real time. I just make sure I have enough reserve capacity for a balls out run. The two Odysseys and a 240 amp alternator in my truck should cover it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But then I am running a Class A 10.0, a Class A Picasso, and a Reference 1000s in my truck. I don't want to run out of juice. Cool system! I'm into Soundstream stuff too, I have a Class A 10.2, Picasso, renoir and a Balanced XO to run it all, and two Soundstream SS10rs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) Sweet collection. I love the old Soundstreams. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
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| Rod |
Mar 5 2009, 01:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Farnham UK Member No.: 8,526 Region Association: England |
Small update -
I have finished the amp cover, this will be covered in vinyl to match the backpad etc.. (IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/IMG_4151.jpg) (IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/IMG_4154.jpg) (IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/IMG_4166.jpg) This then lifts up like so.. (IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/IMG_4167.jpg) And the amp tips forward to reveal the gubbins underneath.. (IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/IMG_4185.jpg) The head unit is being returned tomorrow, so I start tuning at the weekend.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This is definitely not one for the Wine & Cheese crowd (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) I need to start thinking about contacting Jake Raby about building me a 2270 motor to pull it around a bit smoother soon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| turboman808 |
Mar 5 2009, 04:47 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,718 Joined: 31-January 06 From: North Jersey Member No.: 5,505 Region Association: North East States |
I had no idea they made stuff for cars. That's pretty crazy putting that in a 914.
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| thesey914 |
Mar 5 2009, 05:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,155 Joined: 1-January 03 From: Staffordshire -England Member No.: 66  |
Rod, that is beautifully engineered. One question though -what type of music is played through it, I bet it ain't the cheeky girls? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| jsayre914 |
Mar 5 2009, 05:11 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,188 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I love it, Very nice cabinet in the back. Im a little jelous, you made it look like it belongs there. Too bad we cant hear it.
I am also working on a rear trunk cabinet for my car. Its fun to see what other people are doing. i would appreciate if you critique mine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
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| Rod |
Mar 6 2009, 04:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Farnham UK Member No.: 8,526 Region Association: England |
QUOTE(thesey914 @ Mar 5 2009, 11:07 PM) Rod, that is beautifully engineered. One question though -what type of music is played through it, I bet it ain't the cheeky girls? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thankyou, nice comment (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I mainly listen to 'Aqua' and the Spice girls. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Mar 5 2009, 11:11 PM) I love it, Very nice cabinet in the back. Im a little jelous, you made it look like it belongs there. Too bad we cant hear it. I am also working on a rear trunk cabinet for my car. Its fun to see what other people are doing. i would appreciate if you critique mine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) Well thanks, the whole intention was to make it look 'factory' Once the cover is covered in vinyl, it really will look (hopefully) original. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) Post yours up, I'll have a look and give criticism/advice/praise, whatever is necessary (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| Rod |
Mar 17 2009, 04:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Farnham UK Member No.: 8,526 Region Association: England |
Well I have very nearly finished (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) We had a couple of rare days of sunshine over here in England over the weekend, so I got outside with a sander and finished preparing the top cover..... Then got some 6.5mm laminated glass cut to size and covered the build in matching vinyl... Pic fest to follow!!
(IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/IMG_4267.jpg) (IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/IMG_4272.jpg) (IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/IMG_4326.jpg) (IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/IMG_4277.jpg) (IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/IMG_4316.jpg) (IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/IMG_4286.jpg) (IMG:http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/rodericdavies/IMG_4271.jpg) So I hope you think it looks reasonably factory fresh??!! It sounds amazing, I get a strong central image and vocals come from on the bonnet. It actually sounds as good as my home setup which is a miracle in such a small car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) The best comment was from my wife, who came home from work yesterday and said, I quote "Wow, did you do that??" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| rjames |
Jun 2 2009, 11:53 AM
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Does it get too hot back there above the exhaust for the amp to be properly ventilated?
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| Rod |
Jun 7 2009, 05:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Farnham UK Member No.: 8,526 Region Association: England |
QUOTE(rjames @ Jun 2 2009, 06:53 PM) Does it get too hot back there above the exhaust for the amp to be properly ventilated? Not as yet, No. The amp has four fans built in which work in various stages... two fans either end - 1 - stage one, one end fans on low 2 - stage two, above fans kick upto full speed 3 - stage three, fans at opposite end switch onto full. So far I have had it upto stage two, playing music loud on a hot day, but it wasn't really too hot. This amp is a fabulous piece of engineering - it seems to take everything in it's stride. I was into Soundstream old school amps before McIntosh and they were as reliable as 1980's Alfa Romeo electrics.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) the system has now been tuned and it sounds fabulous - it images above the dash and the soundstage extends outside the car left/right - I am very pleased with it, but have now finished so am a little bored and need another project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) |
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| degreeoff |
Jun 7 2009, 01:46 PM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
geez that might actually over power the ambient noise in my teener....V E R Y nice!
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| Rod |
Jun 7 2009, 02:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 616 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Farnham UK Member No.: 8,526 Region Association: England |
QUOTE(degreeoff @ Jun 7 2009, 08:46 PM) geez that might actually over power the ambient noise in my teener....V E R Y nice! It does in mine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Just got back in from a spin and when it's pumping all you can hear is the music you want to listen to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hotel California never sounded better! with the soundproofing on the firewall I can't hear the engine at speed at all. I realize that this may be against the ethos of the 914, but I just love it |
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| r_towle |
Jun 7 2009, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(degreeoff @ Jun 7 2009, 03:46 PM) geez that might actually over power the ambient noise in my teener....V E R Y nice! I have hear yours...no stereo would overpower that six.... R |
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