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Facet fuel pump |
736conver |
Feb 11 2004, 08:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,117 Joined: 25-May 03 From: SE Wisconsin Member No.: 736 Region Association: None |
My car is a 6 conversion in progress and I am about to install my facet fuel pump. Where has everybody mounted their aftermarket pumps. Up at the tank and push the fuel or back at the engine and pull. I always heard pushing was better.
Please show pics to if you have it. Thanks |
campbellcj |
Feb 11 2004, 08:35 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,545 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
My pump and main filter are up front on the tank bulkhead, easily accessible (it's a track car). This pic was taken before the big oil cooler was added. I'm getting ready to redo the lines with AN-6 braided hose but will probably keep this pump setup for now. I may add another inline filter back at the carb end just for good measure.
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ArtechnikA |
Feb 11 2004, 08:55 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
much easier to push a fluid than suck it. trying to suck it just worsens a borderline vapor lock (fuel vaporization) problem and keeping the line pressurised - even at only 5 psi - will help (even if only a little) ... also -- the Facet needs a pretty good head on the suction side.
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rdracrdave |
Feb 11 2004, 09:04 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 5-May 03 From: Cincinnati,Ohio Member No.: 653 |
Two pumps. One up front by the fuel cell , one in the engine compartment.
Works well with a 3.0L six. Dave |
Malmz |
Feb 11 2004, 10:03 PM
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CSOBOSC founding member Group: Benefactors Posts: 489 Joined: 22-April 03 From: So. Cal Member No.: 602 |
Up front. Consider a Holley or Carter over the Facet though to get the flow you will need with a -6. The Carter is just under $100, the Holley (I forget if it's the Red or Blue that is the right PSI) is purdier and just over $100.
From what I've seen, the Facet is mostly used for carbed Type I motors. sm |
Air_Cooled_Nut |
Feb 11 2004, 10:38 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
I have the Holley Red Pump in my Squareback and it puts out 7psi. Use a Holley pressure regulator to adjust fuel pressure, not one of those cheap dial-it-in units (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)
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J P Stein |
Feb 11 2004, 10:50 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
I run the 4.5 psi Facet, no regulator, no return line......heresy, eh?
Wurks, too. I've pumped out half a tank (to drain it) in 10-15 minutes. If you use more fuel than that........ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
scotty |
Feb 11 2004, 11:15 PM
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The Fun Never Stops Group: Members Posts: 773 Joined: 20-May 03 From: Portland. Oregon (SW) Member No.: 718 Region Association: None |
Up front with the filter (mallory) and a pressure regulator in the engine compartment (with return line). WAY more than I need...unless I can convince my fiends at the metalworks to cast me a flat 8 case (that'll take more scotch than a care to part with at this time). a six is enough until I win Megabucks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
A simple facet with no return (like JP's) passes the KISS test. If/when my pump ever goes, I'll probably do what he did (plumbing is WAY simpler). |
campbellcj |
Feb 11 2004, 11:35 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,545 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
Hey...I'm damn glad you guys brought up the "return line" topic again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
I was sitting there in the '"reading room" flippin' through the Jegs catalog (no, not JUGS Zois) that just came in the mail and planning my fuel repiping project. I realized that my car didn't have a return line when I bought it (w/ the big-four) and still doesn't now (w/ the small-six) and sure doesn't seem to need it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) As long as I stick with a ~5psi fuel pump with appropriate output specs, any reason to add all that return plumbing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
Air_Cooled_Nut |
Feb 11 2004, 11:55 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
My set up doesn't have a return line.
I do have a mechanical impact switch (Ford part, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
Elliot_Cannon |
Feb 12 2004, 01:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,922 Joined: 26-March 03 From: Orange County Ca Member No.: 480 Region Association: None |
My pump and filter is at the bottom of the fire wall close to the stock position. I don't know where this sucking vs pushing came from. If the pump is at or below the bottom of the fuel tank, gravity pushes it to the fuel pump and the pump pushes it to the carbs.
Cheers, Elliot |
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