OEM muffler color? Options

[MrKona]

Is the Dansk OEM muffler a flat gray or a satin gray? Does anyone have a good paint match? Pictures make it look almost like a primer. Thanks...

[tod914]

http://www.nlaparts.com/store/exhaust-grey-paint-p-653.html

Here's the correct color paint for a 356. I would think it would be
the same or close for a 914.

[Pat Garvey]

Is the Dansk OEM muffler a flat gray or a satin gray? Does anyone have a good paint match? Pictures make it look almost like a primer. Thanks...

Should be a flat gray. Yes, it does almost look like primer!

But, if you clean up periodically, it will take on a satin finish.

The paint is fairly thin, so don't go after it with abrasives.
Pat

[jonferns]

The NOS muffler that I have for my '74 1.8 is not painted. It's also not installed on the car, when I install it, should I paint it?

[Pat Garvey]

The NOS muffler that I have for my '74 1.8 is not painted. It's also not installed on the car, when I install it, should I paint it?

I find this interesting. My most recent muffler is a Dansk, but from 1990. It is painted (I'll send pics tomorrow), but by Dansk. Have things changed that much that Dansk no longer protect the mufflers with paint? Wow!

Jon, if yours is bare metal - don't wait to paint it until after it's installed!

Use very fine steel wool, wipe it down, prep-solve it, & put a high temp primer on it immediately. I'll leave it too the current gurus of high temp finish paints to provide the info for a final coat(s). But, it should be light gray.
Pat

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

The NOS muffler that I have for my '74 1.8 is not painted. It's also not installed on the car, when I install it, should I paint it?

Jon, if yours is bare metal - don't wait to paint it until after it's installed!

Use very fine steel wool, wipe it down, prep-solve it, & put a high temp primer on it immediately. I'll leave it too the current gurus of high temp finish paints to provide the info for a final coat(s). But, it should be light gray.
Pat

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Here be a (I hope) saisfactory pic showing correct color and finish. This is a OEM spec item on a '70/4.

[jonferns]

Pat, my muffler has survived 34 years without any protection and there is no rust on it at all. For now, it is neatly wrapped in a box in my basement. Im still deciding whether I should save it or install it. I don't like using my NOS parts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[MrKona]

Great info everyone! I just bought a used stock muffler from a fellow club member. From the pictures, it's been painted black, and I want to repaint it back to the stock color.

I will most likely buy a can of the 356 gray paint. As far as primer, I have a can of 500 degree Fahrenheit primer. Do you think this is a high enough temperature rating? (Assuming it's compatible with the paint) I really don't know just how hot the muffler gets.

[tod914]

I got that info from John Patterak. He said he sent them a muffler and had them color match it using VHT high temp paint. Seems like a safe bet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[914runnow]

Is the Dansk OEM muffler a flat gray or a satin gray? Does anyone have a good paint match? Pictures make it look almost like a primer. Thanks...

Stoddards has VHT make them a CUSTOM Color NLA Grey
high Temp Paint..CONCOUR Correct....Spray Can or Quarts..

[Tom_T]

I have a question about the OEM Muffler for a `73 2L that I need to clean-up & repaint -

Did it originally or ever have a chromed or polished or semi-polished or stainless steel tailpipe section?

In the photo at the link below for PP's Dansk "OE style" below, it sure looks "shiny" to me!?

http://www.automotion.com/product.asp?pf_i...mp;dept_id=4573

I bought the 2.0 OE style Muffler in the pic below from Midas back in 1980 with a Lifetime Replacement Guarantee. I think I recall that they sourced it from either Dansk or whomever was the Porsche OES at the time, so it was good quality. Pat - this one was also not painted at the time it was installed, but had some sort of a protective coating on it, which has obviously failed at this point. So priming & painting seems like a good idea to me!

I suppose that they'd still be on the hook to get me a new Dansk whenever it should fail, but it's still solid at this point - the car having been stored in my SoCal garage since 5/85 due to the body damage above it (& a new family back then).

Although it looks rusty - its just surface crud that I can steel wool off & refinish with the hi-temp primer & grey paint noted in this thread - at the time I have to pull it off to redo both sides of my rusted-out heat exchangers - but I'm unsure how to do the tailpipe section?

Anyone out there know how I should finish the tailpipe on this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Also - any leads for some new OEM/OES or Stainless `73 2.0 Heat Exchangers?

AA has SS at $605 per side, but that seems awfully steep to me! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

[tod914]

Tom, no chrome tips. Just grey.

[Tom_T]

Tom, no chrome tips. Just grey.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) REALLY - ALL GREY !?

Tod - Look at the pic below & note the "silver" or "shiny" look of the tailpipe section, vs. the grey painted body. Is that just an unpainted or clear coated natural steel finish? I seem to recall that mine looked that way at first, and this is the 3rd on my car - including the OE one when new.

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DANSK OE-STYLE 914-2.0 REPLACEMENT MUFFLER:




VERSUS MY CURRENT SPECIAL CUSTOM CORTEN-STEEL-STYLE RUST TREATMENT: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[MDG]

Tom, what Tod means is the original mufflers where grey. The pic you've posted of the 'OEM' replacement from Dansk; somewhere along the way they decided to chrome the tip. I suppose they have fallen vicitim to the Bling mentality.

When new, back in the day, no chrome.

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

When new, back in the day, no chrome.

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[jonferns]

My muffler is NOS, with the grey coating, also I have a gray tailpipe.

[Tom_T]

Tom, what Tod means is the original mufflers where grey. The pic you've posted of the 'OEM' replacement from Dansk; somewhere along the way they decided to chrome the tip. I suppose they have fallen vicitim to the Bling mentality.

When new, back in the day, no chrome.

So I guess I can refinish mine all grey per OE, but I'll be "stuck with" the chrome or shiny tip Dansk when mine finally gives out, since that's the only one on the market now that vaguely resembles the OE. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

...and I don't wnat the aftermarker bursch, Dansk, etc. 4 pipe look! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

BIG THANX GUYS! After 24+ years in my garage, the ole memory fades! ...not to mention the "half-zymers"! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

- ya know, where you remember half the stuff half the time!? ...err, I think that's how it goes......ummmmh????? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

[jonferns]

I've seen a few NOS 2.0 mufflers for sale over the past year or so. Keep an eye on ebay and thesamba.com one will show up.

[MDG]

I have the newer style Dansk on '73; works just fine. If you want it to look original just take off the chromed finish and paint it.

[Tom_T]

I have the newer style Dansk on '73; works just fine. If you want it to look original just take off the chromed finish and paint it.

I personally don't mind the chrome tailpipe, and certainly Porsche put chromed exhaust tips on the same period 911s & 912s, so I don't really "get" the "strict interpretation" by PCA that comparable period "upgrades &/or accessories" aren't acceptable.

Frankly & no offense to all of you concours gurus, but I personally think that the grey tailpipe sticking out below/thru the black valence, & especially when below the chromed bumpers, just looks unfinished and shows a bit of the "orphaned child syndrome"! ...I mean, couldn't Porsche at least have OE painted them a flat or matte black to blend in a bit!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Maybe it's just a conspiracy by those 911ers & 912ers to cheat to keep up with the teeners!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

Sure glad I won't be showing the car for the "points hunt," but I will try to keep it as true to form as I can be. And since I already paid for that 1983 "Lifetime Guarantee" from Midas for my current muffler - I'll just let them source the Dansk or whatever other proper 2.0 replacement is available at that future date. I'm not trying to cheap out, but guys & gals - I've got several $1000's of parts & work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) to git 'er dun & back on the road & lookin' purdy after 24 years of waiting patiently! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

...so getting a "new" grey muffler will be the least of my worries over the next 12+/- months! - no offense intended. However, when I pull it off to fix the rusted thru & still original 73 OE heat Exchangers - I will clean up my current muffler & prime/paint it grey per OE, since it's still solid & works at this point.

However, I will offer to repaint the chrome/natural metal tip for any buyer who prefers that look - IF I EVER SELL HER, THAT IS!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

At the risk of opening a whole new can of worms - what's the position on using Stainless Steel 2.0 Heat Exchangers, now that OE is NLA? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I understand that SS will last far better/longer & therefore be safer in the long run than OE (for those of us who plan to actually drive our 914s) - even if I could find them NOS or good shape used around. I'll even concede to line the SS ones up with the muffler & prime/spray them the OE grey too! ...will that work Okay?

...or does somebody have a secret source for OE 2.0 Exchangers at a reasonable price that I've not found yet!? (I missed a few close ones though!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

FYI - Here's a couple of glimpses of what bodywork I'm up against, in addition to getting all of the mechanicals back up to speed after sitting on blocks for 24 years since 5/85.....

REAR END DAMAGE



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