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| tat2dphreak |
 Feb 17 2004, 03:47 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya  Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region   |
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ok, basically this: *IF* Jake were to Raffle off one of his engines... who here would be willing to fork up $50/ticket for a CHANCE to win it? how many Tix would you consider buying? also, is there someone here who could explain to us how we could do this legally? there are some doubts that we could sell 150+ tix... enough to pay Jake for his time/engine... what do ya'll think? |
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| fiid |
Feb 17 2004, 03:58 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
I'd buy a ticket if it was also supporting a good cause.
What about ALS charities? I never actually caught what the ailment is that Hunter has, but I bet there is a charity that sponsors support and research for that. (Qarl??) Just my 2 pence. |
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| tat2dphreak |
Feb 17 2004, 04:13 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I think that is the way the thread was heading... I agree... I may be in for 1-2 if not charitable... but 4+ if charitable...
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| Korijo |
Feb 17 2004, 05:19 PM
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[]D o [] o []V[] o []D Group: Members Posts: 1,308 Joined: 16-July 03 From: North Bend, WA Member No.: 914 |
I'd be down for 1, maybe 2 tix. Especially a charity raffle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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| Britain Smith |
Feb 17 2004, 05:26 PM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
Maybe you should talk to the guys planning the West Coast 914 event and make the drawing for the raffle occur at the event...just an idea.
-Britain |
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| Scott |
Feb 17 2004, 05:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 13-January 03 From: Redwood City, CA Member No.: 138 |
5+ if charitable but 4 for sure if not.
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| Andyrew |
Feb 17 2004, 05:32 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California 
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Probably one.. just because I know Im not lucky at things (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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| Rouser |
Feb 17 2004, 06:31 PM
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Anti-Post Whore Group: Benefactors Posts: 597 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Citrus Park, Florida Member No.: 54 |
One ticket definately.
Heck ... it's looking more and more like "The BS Fudge Factor" will sabotage this raffle attempt on one of Jake's masterpieces; too many smiley faces and not enough head-scratchers. I'm an optomist, but sometimes these goodwill hunts have a tendancy to end in pure grief. I was the one who suggested 125-150 tickets @ $50 a piece, if just to weed out the occasional spectator. Add more tickets to lower the ticket prices means increasing liability issues, i.e. BSFF. Remember, the more individuals/entities that become involved with handling/sponsoring this raffle/event, the more individuals/entities that will have to be EXEMPT from participation. This is done for reasons of fairness, or to dispel even the remote possibility of impropriety. If you wanna become one of those ticket holders, than you better step back and let this play out by itself. We live in a litigious society (i.e. sue-happy); all it takes is one sore loser to find a reason to put Jake and the sponsor(s) into a hellhole. |
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| GWN7 |
Feb 17 2004, 06:33 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
For most lotteries you need a charity to donate the proceeds to so you can get a licence to sell tickets. My favorite is:
The Firefighters Burn Fund Inc. They raise funds to buy and maintain a burn ward in local hospitals. Speciality equipment, ect. It's run by: United Fire Fighters of Winnipeg Local 867 - International Association of Fire Fighters 303-83 Garry Street Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada R3C-4J9 Unlike other charities all the money raised is used for the purpose it is intended. No one takes administrative fees or 20-30% off the top for fund raising. A very worthwhile charity. There are several burn funds all over North America. I'd be in for a couple tickets. |
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| URY914 |
Feb 17 2004, 06:49 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,725 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I'm in. I say give the proceeds to Redshift so he can keep his 'teener and to keep him on the board. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)
(All right, maybe not) Paul |
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| Joe Bob |
Feb 17 2004, 06:51 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Does Jake know that he's donating an engine???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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| GWN7 |
Feb 17 2004, 06:55 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
We could have a fund raiser for Redshift......at least we could raise enough to keep him aluminum foil hats when he's not here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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| Jake Raby |
Feb 17 2004, 07:12 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Yeah, but this is too tricky.. No one seem s to know the "rules" for all 50 states..
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| tat2dphreak |
Feb 17 2004, 08:01 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Feb 17 2004, 08:12 PM) Yeah, but this is too tricky.. No one seem s to know the "rules" for all 50 states.. I agree jake... we need a law specialist if this thing were to come to pass... I was just curious because I think it could be a great way to help out a charity or 2 and be really neat for someone to get a "jake special" ... it would be a tricky situation at best, though :| |
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| Joe Bob |
Feb 17 2004, 08:04 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
The laws of the state you reside in and where you are selling the tickets apply. If I remember.....most of the auctions like this have been conducted by non-profits....then they split 50/50 with the charity. AFTER deductions for expenses, if any.
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| McMark |
Feb 17 2004, 10:47 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
California is out. I researched it tonight. If for no other reason, because you can't do any ticket sales over the internet for a legal raffle. Now another option might be to have people buy membership into a "club" and have the club give away an engine to its members. Might be a loophole.
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| JeffBowlsby |
Feb 17 2004, 11:18 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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Donate the engine to the 914Club Jake...We'll raffle it off at the 914 West Coast Classic with lots of RAT publicity....Brad could install it if the winner was local.
Jeff |
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| Jake Raby |
Feb 17 2004, 11:51 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
I'll have to talk to Brad on that one...
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| ThinAir |
Feb 18 2004, 12:12 AM
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Best friends Group: Members Posts: 2,542 Joined: 4-February 03 From: Flagstaff, AZ Member No.: 231 Region Association: Southwest Region
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There's at least one raffle like this in Panorama each month so we should be able to contact an organization that's running one and see how they do it. Donating to 914Club is probably out because it's not really a club and so it doesn't have federal 501c3 designation as a non-profit organization.
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| JeffBowlsby |
Feb 18 2004, 12:25 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,510 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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QUOTE Donating to 914Club is probably out because it's not really a club and so it doesn't have federal 501c3 designation as a non-profit organization. And Roadglue wasn't a club either but we sure had a lot of fun...for being a non-entity. Is there a rule somewhere that says that only non-profits can accept donations? Anyone can give and receive 'gifts' all day long to whomever they want... An engine or anything else is given away by one party to another party...advertising and publicity is given away in return...Bartering is illegal I suppose, but where is the solid line of what is right and wrong? We of course would only want to do whats right... |
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