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> Another eBay find, '73 misrepresented and no VIN tag ...
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post Feb 7 2009, 07:43 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-914...%3A1|240%3A1308


This is *not* a '71 body! And there's no VIN tag on the A-Pillar ...
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post Feb 7 2009, 07:48 PM
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looks like a 73/73...not sure based upon the front trunk.
Did he post a vin number.

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post Feb 7 2009, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Feb 7 2009, 05:48 PM) *

looks like a 73/73...not sure based upon the front trunk.
Did he post a vin number.

Rich


Yes, i meant '73, typo ...
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post Feb 7 2009, 07:56 PM
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Hmmmm, dunno how it got by the automated ebay thingy. They pretty much require a VIN to be posted.
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post Feb 7 2009, 07:58 PM
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I guess it could be possible that the back pad, wheels, front bumper and engine were all swapped out for later model stuff.

I am guessing this could very well be since its also originally a silver car that is now red. Sure not worth the almost 7k he is asking IMO.
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post Feb 7 2009, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(LarryR @ Feb 7 2009, 05:58 PM) *

I guess it could be possible that the back pad, wheels, front bumper and engine were all swapped out for later model stuff.


Yeah, but nobody welds in the brace in the front trunk. That didn't show up until '73 ...

And then there's the movable passenger seat ...

And a functional center console (wiring isn't in the car until '73) ...

And the sidevents on the dash ...

And the tar mat in the engine bay ...

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post Feb 7 2009, 08:11 PM
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Oh, and the VIN tag on the headlight bucket is missing too!

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post Feb 7 2009, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 7 2009, 09:08 PM) *

Yeah, but nobody welds in the brace in the front trunk. That didn't show up until '73 ...

I am Andy- bought the brace (in 2 pieces) for the front of my 70. Hard part is going to be getting it to fit over the oil cooler. I like to "hot rod" w/ factory parts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 7 2009, 08:25 PM
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Ya know, one of the things that pisses me off the most, is people who represent something that is TOTALLY BOGUS. This car is an example, from a guy who has a 100% rating? Screws the rest of us who are honest. There is nothing correct about this 914! In fact, I've notified eBay about this car. And, I emailed th seller.

I'll bet it's a "clipped" 914.
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post Feb 7 2009, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Feb 7 2009, 06:25 PM) *

I'll bet it's a "clipped" 914.

Actually, it's silver front to rear. I'm guessing it's a "rebody" ...

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post Feb 7 2009, 08:47 PM
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But doesn't the 912 manual automaticly change it into a 71? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Then you click your heels three times and say: "There's no place like evil bay, there's no place like evil bay, there's no place like evil bay..." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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I emailed the guy, here's his response:


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clear title in hand. We do not give the vin #'s on our older cars as we have almost been scammed by a scammer that tried to get a title for one of our cars in another state. It is titled as a 71.



Well, that settles it then! Or not ...
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post Feb 7 2009, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 7 2009, 06:08 PM) *

QUOTE(LarryR @ Feb 7 2009, 05:58 PM) *

I guess it could be possible that the back pad, wheels, front bumper and engine were all swapped out for later model stuff.


Yeah, but nobody welds in the brace in the front trunk. That didn't show up until '73 ...

And then there's the movable passenger seat ...

And a functional center console (wiring isn't in the car until '73) ...

And the sidevents on the dash ...

And the tar mat in the engine bay ...

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And the silver dot gauges...150 mph speedo... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)
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post Feb 7 2009, 09:41 PM
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My early 74 has silver dot's. I smell a Rat.
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post Feb 7 2009, 09:43 PM
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post Feb 7 2009, 10:16 PM
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I just looked at it on Ebay,and its a "Dog" Stay away from it or it will bite you...
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post Feb 8 2009, 12:44 AM
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Did anyone notice the tach. It has left and right turn signial indicator lights, I thought that was a 911 thing ???
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post Feb 8 2009, 12:51 AM
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early 914's too.
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post Feb 8 2009, 09:20 AM
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Lets say for instance that at some point in time...it was re-titled with the wrong year....just due to someone mistyping.

The VIN tag is on the inner fender behind the headlight bucket.
The VIN is also stamped on the top of the inner fender.
There may be a VIN behind the windshield...I cant see

Its a car with a VIN...how hard is it to get the registry to see that the number and the year are mismatched...and get it fixed?

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post Feb 8 2009, 10:43 AM
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He may not want to give the VIN out because it's a non-porsche, state issued VIN. That secondary blue and silver tag rivited to the inner fender next to where the stock VIN should be means the DMV has gotten involved somewhere.

That tag could also contain a proper porsche VIN, it just wouldn't be the one the car was born with given the late chassis. It's one of those situations where it may be technically legal because they went through the DMV, but in either case it's less than ideal.

I had a 914 with title issues a few years ago and convincing the DMV there was a problem in the first place was the hardest part. I ultimately got it fixed and the car was returned to the VIN it was born with, but it was an ordeal. It also ended up with the DMV issued vin plates.


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