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> Interesting find, Acquired a five lug setup today
MrKona
post Feb 14 2009, 10:05 PM
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I bought a five lug set up today from a local guy off craigslist. The front is a Boge set up with 3" spacing and M-calipers. I already have a pair so I will most likely be selling these off in the near future.

It's the rears that got my attention. The hubs are originally five lug, not four lug redrilled for five. The guy who sold them to me took them off a 914 he parted out a long time ago and has been storing them ever since for an eventual five lug conversion. He sold them as he has too many projects as is.

Unfortunately, I'm going to be gone for a few days and won't get a chance to dig into these until next weekend. I'm wondering if I may have acquired a set up with 914/6 stub axles. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

By the way, anyone have a suggestion on how to remove the big castle nut with the suspension off the car? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


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post Feb 14 2009, 10:06 PM
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post Feb 14 2009, 10:33 PM
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Let me guess, the guy lives in Columbia City, out by St Helens.
I emailed him last night and asked how much he wanted$$. He replied $300.
I said I will take them. He replied Okay they are yours.
He says he can deliver to OC on way to work. Okay, sounds good.
Then I get an email today that the five lug is gone, for $500.
I guess money talks.
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post Feb 14 2009, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(boxstr @ Feb 14 2009, 08:33 PM) *

Let me guess, the guy lives in Columbia City, out by St Helens.
I emailed him last night and asked how much he wanted$$. He replied $300.
I said I will take them. He replied Okay they are yours.
He says he can deliver to OC on way to work. Okay, sounds good.
Then I get an email today that the five lug is gone, for $500.
I guess money talks.


Yah... I made him an offer today (actually less than $500) and he took it. Sorry Craig... didn't know...
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post Feb 14 2009, 10:50 PM
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Yeah, No blame to you. You didn't know.
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post Feb 14 2009, 11:05 PM
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By the way, anyone have a suggestion on how to remove the big castle nut with the suspension off the car? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


A decent impact wrench worked for me.
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post Feb 14 2009, 11:14 PM
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Man, I was way too slow...

So, Bryan... your other struts are 3" as well? I've got a pair of "A" calipers/hubs/rotors, and need some 3.5" struts.
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post Feb 14 2009, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(my928s4 @ Feb 14 2009, 09:05 PM) *

QUOTE(MrKona @ Feb 14 2009, 08:05 PM) *


By the way, anyone have a suggestion on how to remove the big castle nut with the suspension off the car? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


A decent impact wrench worked for me.


Yup, I'll use an impact wrench on them, but with no car on the other end of the axle, what do I use to keep the axle from turning? My wife recommended I find a couple of strong men to hold it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 14 2009, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(Todd Enlund @ Feb 14 2009, 09:14 PM) *

Man, I was way too slow...

So, Bryan... your other struts are 3" as well? I've got a pair of "A" calipers/hubs/rotors, and need some 3.5" struts.


3.0" struts only here, no 3.5"... I'm sure there is a set of 3.5" struts out there with your name on them...
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post Feb 15 2009, 12:47 AM
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My experience was that I was lifting the entire back end of the car off the ground to break those bastards loose. I would take a torch and heat them up a lot then hit them with the impact to bust them loose. a couple days soaking of liquid wrench could help too.

As for being factory six all you have to do is look at the solid rotor to realize that is not the case. However, I am confused as to why they are 5 lug calipers (non vented) but have no extra holes on the rotors. (early 911 rotors working with the 914 hubs?)

great buy.
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post Feb 15 2009, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE(MrKona @ Feb 14 2009, 09:26 PM) *

3.0" struts only here, no 3.5"... I'm sure there is a set of 3.5" struts out there with your name on them...

I'm sure there is... I'll look harder when I have more money (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Looks like you scored big on this setup.
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post Feb 15 2009, 01:28 AM
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914/6 had solid rotors in the rear. What's the price on those 3" front struts? PM me.
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post Feb 15 2009, 09:37 AM
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Dremel and hammer and chisel, buy a new nut.

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post Feb 15 2009, 10:22 AM
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Couple of things:

Nut = Acetylene cherry red and then have a go at it. You may want to use that one solid rotor we see in the picture and, by first removing the backing plate, put it in a vise. You'll have to crank down on it but, if you can get that nut hot enough it will probably spin. All this depends on the proper air wrench as well. They're not created equal.

What is it? = I'd check the front end first for clues. The spline count will probably be 911 for sure however, check the torsion bar thickness. You may have the 17mm 914-6 bars. That would be a clue.

Rears would be easy enough to tell. Hubs should have a 901 part number on them. CV's would be 914 sized CV's. Real -6 stub axles have a cast finish on them. Search a thread by Reid on the subject (Lavanaut) from last month.

The left rear arm would have an extra tab for the heater flapper cable. This is just a simple tab maybe 1" wide by 1.5" tall with a single small sheet metal screw hole in it that a vinyl/cloth strap was looped through to hold that cable on 6's. Bear in mind, these control arms were used on all early 914's so it's nothing unique however, with 901.xxx.xxx.xx hubs, factory stub axles and this tab, you probably have a set off a six...

...now; where that car he stripped? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Feb 15 2009, 10:27 AM
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The caliper in the background is a -4 caliper.

Whats the spline count on the axles?

The front hub looks to be hubcentric which would be later.
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post Feb 15 2009, 11:38 AM
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By the way, anyone have a suggestion on how to remove the big castle nut with the suspension off the car


If you cant get em off, you can always ask your local wrench to remove them.

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Yah... I made him an offer today (actually less than $500) and he took it. Sorry Craig... didn't know...


Hey Craig cant get all the deals. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



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post Feb 15 2009, 01:47 PM
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I had to spend some today to see what I've got... I took Eric's advice with the disk-in-the-vice technique and heat. My impact wrench loosened the axle nut without too much trouble. I was pretty surprised.

I tapped the stub axle and out came.... what I believe is a 914/6 stub axle! 28 splines, sure looks like one, but I've only seen them in pictures! Can anyone confirm?


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post Feb 15 2009, 02:15 PM
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On the front, I measured the torsion bar diameter at 18.0mm with 29 splines. I believe this matches up to a stock 914/4 (stock diameter 17.9mm) bar.
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post Feb 15 2009, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(MrKona @ Feb 15 2009, 11:47 AM) *

I had to spend some today to see what I've got... I took Eric's advice with the disk-in-the-vice technique and heat. My impact wrench loosened the axle nut without too much trouble. I was pretty surprised.

I tapped the stub axle and out came.... what I believe is a 914/6 stub axle! 28 splines, sure looks like one, but I've only seen them in pictures! Can anyone confirm?


Once I got a hold of a decent impact wrench I just held the drive shaft by hand and the nut came off, sounds like you had similar luck.

If you have a 914/6 rear end, sweet find for sure.
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