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How are helmets sized?, Preparing for West Coast Ramble 2009 |
ThinAir |
Feb 19 2009, 12:34 AM
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Best friends Group: Members Posts: 2,542 Joined: 4-February 03 From: Flagstaff, AZ Member No.: 231 Region Association: Southwest Region |
There are going to be helmets to share for the track day at Willow Springs, but of course it's more convenient to have your own so I took a look at eBay and the prices may not be too bad. Here's an example auction - it says it's a size 7-3/8. So how do you know what size helmet you need?
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Todd Enlund |
Feb 19 2009, 12:36 AM
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Resident Photoshop Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,251 Joined: 24-August 07 From: Laurelhurst (Portland), Oregon Member No.: 8,032 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
There are going to be helmets to share for the track day at Willow Springs, but of course it's more convenient to have your own so I took a look at eBay and the prices may not be too bad. Here's an example auction - it says it's a size 7-3/8. So how do you know what size helmet you need? http://www.bellhelmets.com/index.cfm?fusea...&page_id=18 Oh, and that helmet is Snell 2000... I'd look for a Snell 2005. There are M and SA rated helmets... M is Motorcycle, and SA is Sports Activity. M is okay for autocross, but track events may require SA. |
736conver |
Feb 19 2009, 12:54 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,117 Joined: 25-May 03 From: SE Wisconsin Member No.: 736 Region Association: None |
Yea that helmet is cheap because its old. Different tracks/type racing have different rules on what year helmet you can run.
Also size doesnt mean much if you dont try it on. Your melon is not the same as someone else and it might not sit right. If you find a "cheap" helmet online (ebay) go try that same helmet out in a store and see how it fits. Also buying used helmets is a little bit of a risk. You dont know what johnny racer did to the helmet before you got it. Myself I went to a local kart shop and tried on some helmets. Found one that fit good looked at the size and search it out online. I think I save like $30 or something. |
DBCooper |
Feb 19 2009, 05:13 AM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
And to complicate things even more it's not just the size, it's also the shape. People have different shaped heads (you've noticed), so helmet makers have to decide what shape they're going to serve. So you find that some brands tend to fit round heads but not elongated melon heads. And visa versa. If you try to use the wrong shape after the helmet's on more than a few minutes your head will have "hot spots" where there are pressure points from poor fit. After that they get uncomfortable in a hurry.
Simpson, by the way, fit really really small. So size and shape, you HAVE to try them on to know. |
carr914 |
Feb 19 2009, 06:16 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,670 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) With all points given so far, but will add;
Don't buy a used helmet unless it is for collecting purposes (like me). Besides fitting your melon, if a helmet has had collision with a rollbar or if the helmet has ever been dropped, it is dangerous. That is because, it could now have micro fractures that might not be able to be seen, but if worn and then involved in an accident, those microfractures are then a weak point. There are inexpensive New helmets out there, do a search and also determine what your future uses are going to be. Buy a $50 bucket for a $50 melon or do it right. T.C. |
Joe Ricard |
Feb 19 2009, 07:02 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
SA is special application. Normally associated with race cars. Most that I have seen are fire resistant.
2000 model is only good for a couple of years by most sanctioning bodies. Yep I have a bump on the back of my head and most helmets don't account for it. Normally after a couple of hours wearing it the foam liner gives in a bit. I am inbetween a 7 1/8 Very snug and a 7 1/4 almost right in Bell open face. Motorcycle helmets of this price range are pretty heavy because they have to withstand multiple bounces on the pavement before the rider slides to a stop. More expensive ones are Carbon, Kevlar, E glass composite. That's all I know and I like my Bell Pro Mag 5. |
Gint |
Feb 19 2009, 07:30 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,072 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I won't buy a helmet I can't try on first. I like to buy many things online when it makes sense. You can often save a good deal of cash. But for a few items that don't make sense to buy online (like a brain bucket), I like to support my local businesses. And I'll give preference to the small independent shop.
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championgt1 |
Feb 19 2009, 08:18 AM
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Don't embarrass me Filmore! Group: Members Posts: 2,680 Joined: 3-January 07 From: Tacoma, Washington Member No.: 7,420 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Well said.
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JoeSharp |
Feb 19 2009, 09:23 AM
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In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States |
Ernie: What they said. Snell will have a new standard in 2010 and the ones form 2000 won't be legal even a an A/X. I have a problem head and can't fit in a Bell. Even the Arie give me a head ache after an hour of riding. The last helmet that I bought for riding cost me over $400 and I could use it all day. Now that I down to a minute and a half at a time I have a $200 helmet that just O.K. for comfort. Just in case you didn't see it the PCA is going to loan me 15 helmets for the event. There should be something there that you'll be comfee in.
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ThinAir |
Feb 21 2009, 02:30 PM
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Best friends Group: Members Posts: 2,542 Joined: 4-February 03 From: Flagstaff, AZ Member No.: 231 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Thanks for the education on helmets! I knew there was more to it than just what size you wear, but I had no idea. With the news that they'll be 15 helmets available for sharing, I don't think it's worth bothering for a helmet that I won't be likely to wear again (or at least not for a long time).
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DBCooper |
Feb 21 2009, 03:17 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
Won't use it again for a while? Are you kidding? You'll have so much fun that you'll want to get your own helmet so you can use it every weekend.
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Cap'n Krusty |
Feb 21 2009, 05:13 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Good thing they're not sized by ego. There's a few people around the 914 world who wouldn't be able to fit both their body and their helmet inside the car at the same time ............................ The Cap'n
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roadster fan |
Feb 21 2009, 07:09 PM
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Project Frankenstein !!!!!!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,009 Joined: 24-November 05 From: Aptos, CA Member No.: 5,184 Region Association: Northern California |
Good thing they're not sized by ego. There's a few people around the 914 world who wouldn't be able to fit both their body and their helmet inside the car at the same time ............................ The Cap'n You kill me Cap'n (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
JoeSharp |
Feb 21 2009, 08:43 PM
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In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States |
John: That funny rates a 5. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
I hope I'm not one of them. |
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