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914/6 steering column, where can I get one? |
naro914 |
Mar 11 2009, 03:10 PM
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Losing my mind... Group: Members Posts: 2,476 Joined: 26-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 6,073 Region Association: South East States |
I've been toying with the idea of making Huey a more accurate 914/6 with a left side key ignition, but I'd want to have the correct steering column for it.
I'm also considering a push button start for Papa Smurf, in which case I could also use a 'keyless' column for that too. What should I use? just a normal 911 column? or something else? thanks |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Mar 11 2009, 03:16 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,857 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
914-6 only with early 70 71 914 weld in brackets.
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naro914 |
Mar 11 2009, 03:38 PM
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Losing my mind... Group: Members Posts: 2,476 Joined: 26-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 6,073 Region Association: South East States |
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PanelBilly |
Mar 11 2009, 03:45 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,806 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I'm thinking that its not a good idea. Even if you find the parts, wouldn't it be better for them to go on an original car that needed restoration?
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naro914 |
Mar 11 2009, 03:49 PM
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Losing my mind... Group: Members Posts: 2,476 Joined: 26-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 6,073 Region Association: South East States |
I think option B is to custom fab a steering column housing from something else, gut the current one, and call it a day. I THINK i can do that, not sure. I have access to a "donor" car that I could try it out with first.
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MDG |
Mar 11 2009, 04:50 PM
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Wolf in wolf's clothing. Group: Members Posts: 8,652 Joined: 3-February 09 From: Toronto Member No.: 10,018 Region Association: None |
if you search out one of Sir Andy's threads I'm pretty sure he did it . . . or was planning to
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Rusty |
Mar 11 2009, 05:38 PM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,941 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Brad Mayeur sold two or three 914-6 parts cars to some guy a couple years ago. Might try to follow that lead?
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sixnotfour |
Mar 11 2009, 05:59 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,430 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
you can use a 73 and older 911 column .Cut off all 911 brackets and weld on the four banger mount bracket.
Do a search SirAndy did it most recently, or Mcmark did it for him. |
SirAndy |
Mar 11 2009, 07:11 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,637 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
What should I use? just a normal 911 column? or something else? Do a search here. I did this last year. I used a 911 column ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Andy |
dflesburg |
Mar 11 2009, 07:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
I did it. I used a 914-6 column and a 911 iginition sw/tumbler.
It was hard. Keep all your 914-4 stuff. You will need to cut up the 914-4 column I had to make a template of the 914-4 mounting tab holes cut the mounting tabs off the 914-4 weld them on the 914-6 column in the correct spots. Thats just part of it. Wiring is a total PIA but I have all the schematics if you are really going to try it. They are all hand drawn but they are good. You will also need correct horn ring, cancel parts, modify your steering wheel. take the old steering shaft from the 914-4 and put it in the 914-6 housing clam shells etc. find parts that were missing from the one you bought etc Get a 911 ignition switch and key working rekey that lock etc. Do the wiring for the ignition the wipers the turn signal windshield washer headlights etc etc etc. also, if you run h4 headlamps you must redesign the light side of the system so that more relays keep from overloading the dimmer switch and the dimmer relay. if I ever thought about doing it again... I wouldnt ever do it again unless I was doing another car for myself. I can tell you, my boys cars wont have this done. expect weeks of work in R&D and hand making everything you might need. When you get it all done, some smart ass will tell you that you have the wrong cover plate on your ignition key.. George, do you have a 914-6 key cover plate? |
naro914 |
Mar 11 2009, 08:51 PM
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Losing my mind... Group: Members Posts: 2,476 Joined: 26-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 6,073 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks all, this should point me in the right direction.
I'm not overly concerned with total authenticity being Huey is not exactly a true replica of anything anyway. I'm also considering it for Papa Smurf, the Club racer. More of a "take everything off the steering column and make it a push button start" kinda thing. I don't need turn signals, or even the wiper switch (but I could rewire that to a flip switch somwhere on the dash) so that shoudl be much easier. I talked to my mechanic and he said we can pretty easily fab something out of stuff he has. When I do it (see the thread of What's your Winter Project and know I have a ton left to do on my projects as it is), I will document what I did. Way back a long time ago, I replaced the ignition tumbler, and was surprised how the entire ignition system is in one plug with 4 or 5 connectors. I could start the car with a paper clip, so I can't imagine that would be too hard to rewire (famous last words (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) |
ClayPerrine |
Mar 12 2009, 09:40 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,463 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I did this 6 years ago. I have the pictures somewhere.
You need a 911 column, a 914 column, and a dash frame from a 914/6. If you have a 73, you have to mod the dash frame to use the vents in the outer ends of the dash. I REALLY need to gather my little CDs up and download all the pictures again. |
sechszylinder |
Mar 13 2009, 03:33 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 9-April 03 From: /earth/europe/germany/berlin Member No.: 545 Region Association: None |
hilow,
thats the way i did it: I've mixed up a 914/4 and a 87 carrera steering column. The result is depicted in the following ... greetings form Germany / Berlin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif) Attached image(s) |
jt914-6 |
Mar 13 2009, 06:24 AM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
Bob, I've got a dash mounted wiper switch that would word well for you. It is an intermittent wiper switch with adjustable sweeps, low, and high speeds. It also has a hot wire for a 12 volt washer pump. I have a wiring diagram for the 914 installation.
I'm also using a push button start too. |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Mar 13 2009, 09:28 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,857 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
we did not do the key cover plate yet but did do the clamshells for the six column, and the two u shaped trim pieces. We have several sets of each in stock. Different than the 911 of course.
I did it. I used a 914-6 column and a 911 iginition sw/tumbler. It was hard. Keep all your 914-4 stuff. You will need to cut up the 914-4 column I had to make a template of the 914-4 mounting tab holes cut the mounting tabs off the 914-4 weld them on the 914-6 column in the correct spots. Thats just part of it. Wiring is a total PIA but I have all the schematics if you are really going to try it. They are all hand drawn but they are good. You will also need correct horn ring, cancel parts, modify your steering wheel. take the old steering shaft from the 914-4 and put it in the 914-6 housing clam shells etc. find parts that were missing from the one you bought etc Get a 911 ignition switch and key working rekey that lock etc. Do the wiring for the ignition the wipers the turn signal windshield washer headlights etc etc etc. also, if you run h4 headlamps you must redesign the light side of the system so that more relays keep from overloading the dimmer switch and the dimmer relay. if I ever thought about doing it again... I wouldnt ever do it again unless I was doing another car for myself. I can tell you, my boys cars wont have this done. expect weeks of work in R&D and hand making everything you might need. When you get it all done, some smart ass will tell you that you have the wrong cover plate on your ignition key.. George, do you have a 914-6 key cover plate? |
naro914 |
Mar 13 2009, 01:17 PM
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Losing my mind... Group: Members Posts: 2,476 Joined: 26-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 6,073 Region Association: South East States |
I did this 6 years ago. I have the pictures somewhere. You need a 911 column, a 914 column, and a dash frame from a 914/6. If you have a 73, you have to mod the dash frame to use the vents in the outer ends of the dash. I REALLY need to gather my little CDs up and download all the pictures again. It's a 71. Vents? Oh, you mean those things not connected to anything that are stuffed behind the roll cage? Ah, no problem. No heat, no blowers, no controllers, no nothing.... Also, no windshield washers...in either car. Oh, and the dash face is custom made for guages and such, deleting the blower heat controlers and radio. So again, not too concerned about total authenticity, more just for the fun/look/feel of doing it....and to lose weight in the race car. Heck, Papa Smurf doesnt' even have wipers! and DEFINITELY do not need turn signals in him, or a horn. Just ignition. |
dflesburg |
Mar 13 2009, 09:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
Thanks George,
I thought you might have one back on a shelf somewhere. you have so much cool stuff back there in boxes on shelves in corners, barrels, cartons, cans, drawers, under desks, in rafters, etc. LOL. Still hoping to get to Atlanta eventually and expecting that we go running then. - Duane |
McMark |
Mar 14 2009, 12:36 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
It was a challenging project, but not too extraordinarily difficult. Be prepaired to do some welding and some wiring.
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dflesburg |
Apr 13 2017, 05:18 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,720 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Warm and Cheerful Centerville Ohio Member No.: 1,896 Region Association: None |
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Mark Henry |
Apr 13 2017, 05:40 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I think you put this in the wrong thread this one is from 2009 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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