 aluminum windshield trim pieces- how to refinish? |
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| rfuerst911sc |
 May 5 2009, 04:47 PM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States  |
O.K. the car is painted and the glass guy is showing up on Friday to install a new windshield. The metal trim pieces came off in good shape but needed a good cleaning. I have cleaned them up with green Scotchbrite to a nice clean dull finish. Do I leave them as is or spray some clear on them? I do not want to polish them but I'm afraid if I don't clear them the Florida sun is going to make that natural finish ugly in no time. Thoughts?
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| Porsche Rescue |
May 5 2009, 05:03 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
This looks like what you need from Pelican Tech Articles.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/m...ld_moulding.htm |
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| VaccaRabite |
May 5 2009, 05:08 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,444 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Or ditch the silver trim and go to a black rubber surround. I think it leads to a much nicer looking car.
Zach |
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| Katmanken |
May 5 2009, 05:33 PM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
You have roughed them up with the scotchbrite and can polish them with the really fine scotchbrite pads they sell at Home Despot and Lowes (replacements for steel wool).
No matter what, the aluminum will oxidize within minutes (and look good), so maybe a little wax to seal it to protect it. |
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| McMark |
May 5 2009, 05:55 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
They were anodized from the factory. You could send them out to be redone.
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| rfuerst911sc |
May 5 2009, 06:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Porsche Rescue @ May 5 2009, 03:03 PM)  This looks like what you need from Pelican Tech Articles. http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/m...ld_moulding.htm Thanks for the link it is very helpful. |
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| rfuerst911sc |
May 5 2009, 06:29 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ May 5 2009, 03:08 PM) Or ditch the silver trim and go to a black rubber surround. I think it leads to a much nicer looking car. Zach I am considering this option also. When I called the glass shop to schedule the install I told them to make sure they had rubber molding on the truck in case I wanted to go that route. What happens to the clips for the aluminum molding if you use the rubber trim? Do they stay in place or get removed? |
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| Pat Garvey |
May 5 2009, 06:29 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(McMark @ May 5 2009, 05:55 PM) They were anodized from the factory. You could send them out to be redone. Agree 100%!!!! Unless you replace the finish that was destroyed by the Scotchbrite, you may as well paint them. They'll look like crap in 2 weeks. Pat |
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| rfuerst911sc |
May 5 2009, 06:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ May 5 2009, 04:29 PM) QUOTE(McMark @ May 5 2009, 05:55 PM) They were anodized from the factory. You could send them out to be redone. Agree 100%!!!! Unless you replace the finish that was destroyed by the Scotchbrite, you may as well paint them. They'll look like crap in 2 weeks. Pat I can't get them anodized by Friday (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) What about spraying with clear? |
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| r_towle |
May 5 2009, 07:59 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States 
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QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ May 5 2009, 08:32 PM) QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ May 5 2009, 04:29 PM) QUOTE(McMark @ May 5 2009, 05:55 PM) They were anodized from the factory. You could send them out to be redone. Agree 100%!!!! Unless you replace the finish that was destroyed by the Scotchbrite, you may as well paint them. They'll look like crap in 2 weeks. Pat I can't get them anodized by Friday (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) What about spraying with clear? The trim has no function aside from dressing it up. It does not hold the windshield in place. It does not stop water... It just covers the glue...thats all it does. So, you can send out the parts and get them redone and still drive the car. RIch |
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| VaccaRabite |
May 5 2009, 08:14 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,444 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ May 5 2009, 07:29 PM) QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ May 5 2009, 03:08 PM) Or ditch the silver trim and go to a black rubber surround. I think it leads to a much nicer looking car. Zach I am considering this option also. When I called the glass shop to schedule the install I told them to make sure they had rubber molding on the truck in case I wanted to go that route. What happens to the clips for the aluminum molding if you use the rubber trim? Do they stay in place or get removed? You remove the clips. The rubber goes on to the windshield before the windshield is installed, and it becomes more or less self centering. I was able to install mine single handed. Though I can't recommend that, my install would have gone cleaner with a second set of hands. Your installers will thank you for going rubber. The aluminum trim can break the windshield when installed if they did not get it centered just right, or if the windshield was made a little wonky (which several of them seem to be, I had to trim my PPG glass to get it to fit right and many others here have too.) Zach |
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| jasons |
May 6 2009, 08:26 AM
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Jackstand Extraordinaire Group: Members Posts: 2,002 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,573 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ May 5 2009, 05:32 PM) I can't get them anodized by Friday (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) What about spraying with clear? It works, I've done it twice. Just make sure you use some lacquer thinner or paint prep to decontaminate the surface after the polishing process. It may dull a little or discolor a little with clear. But it does work. |
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| jaxdream |
May 6 2009, 09:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 974 Joined: 8-July 08 From: North Central Tennessee Member No.: 9,270 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ May 5 2009, 06:14 PM) QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ May 5 2009, 07:29 PM) QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ May 5 2009, 03:08 PM) Or ditch the silver trim and go to a black rubber surround. I think it leads to a much nicer looking car. Zach I am considering this option also. When I called the glass shop to schedule the install I told them to make sure they had rubber molding on the truck in case I wanted to go that route. What happens to the clips for the aluminum molding if you use the rubber trim? Do they stay in place or get removed? You remove the clips. The rubber goes on to the windshield before the windshield is installed, and it becomes more or less self centering. I was able to install mine single handed. Though I can't recommend that, my install would have gone cleaner with a second set of hands. Your installers will thank you for going rubber. The aluminum trim can break the windshield when installed if they did not get it centered just right, or if the windshield was made a little wonky (which several of them seem to be, I had to trim my PPG glass to get it to fit right and many others here have too.) Zach Zach , what did the glass guys use for filling in the holes where the plastic clips used to be ?? I have seen no mention of this in any of the rubber install threads , it seems to be a no brainer , but mines seems to be on vacation occassionaly. Jaxdream |
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| VaccaRabite |
May 6 2009, 09:58 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,444 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(jaxdream @ May 6 2009, 10:27 AM) QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ May 5 2009, 06:14 PM) QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ May 5 2009, 07:29 PM) QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ May 5 2009, 03:08 PM) Or ditch the silver trim and go to a black rubber surround. I think it leads to a much nicer looking car. Zach I am considering this option also. When I called the glass shop to schedule the install I told them to make sure they had rubber molding on the truck in case I wanted to go that route. What happens to the clips for the aluminum molding if you use the rubber trim? Do they stay in place or get removed? You remove the clips. The rubber goes on to the windshield before the windshield is installed, and it becomes more or less self centering. I was able to install mine single handed. Though I can't recommend that, my install would have gone cleaner with a second set of hands. Your installers will thank you for going rubber. The aluminum trim can break the windshield when installed if they did not get it centered just right, or if the windshield was made a little wonky (which several of them seem to be, I had to trim my PPG glass to get it to fit right and many others here have too.) Zach Zach , what did the glass guys use for filling in the holes where the plastic clips used to be ?? I have seen no mention of this in any of the rubber install threads , it seems to be a no brainer , but mines seems to be on vacation occassionaly. Jaxdream I did my own. I just used windshield adhesive glue. There is a guy on the board that sold a kit. it had frit paint (black windshield paint that hid the glue), and urethane glue, and a black rubber surround. I did not worry about the holes. If the glue is not water tight (it should be) it will still be just as good as the clips at holding out water. Zach |
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| jaxdream |
May 6 2009, 10:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 974 Joined: 8-July 08 From: North Central Tennessee Member No.: 9,270 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks , Zach , I do like to get as many details as possible, trying to eliminate as much error as I can. Sealing these holes would be a priority for a windshiels install, I will have to check in my area for glass people with some 914 install experience , as this may become one of my " by myself projects " as is most things I do. Thanks again for the info.
Jaxdream |
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| rfuerst911sc |
May 6 2009, 03:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
I am 99% sure that I'm going to go with the rubber molding vs. the aluminum trim. I think it will make for a cleaner install and this is not a concours car she's more of a bastard GT clone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thanks everyone for your feedback it is appreciated. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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| watsonrx13 |
May 7 2009, 05:16 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Plant City, FL Member No.: 312 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ May 6 2009, 04:14 PM) I am 99% sure that I'm going to go with the rubber molding vs. the aluminum trim. I think it will make for a cleaner install and this is not a concours car she's more of a bastard GT clone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thanks everyone for your feedback it is appreciated. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Rick, I had my windshield installed professionally and elected to go with the rubber seal, with the embedded chrome strip. Here's the link to my website showing and describing the process. The installers just put extra glue in the holes to seal them up. I'm very pleased with the outcome.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) -- Rob |
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| rfuerst911sc |
May 7 2009, 03:47 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(watsonrx13 @ May 7 2009, 03:16 AM) QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ May 6 2009, 04:14 PM) I am 99% sure that I'm going to go with the rubber molding vs. the aluminum trim. I think it will make for a cleaner install and this is not a concours car she's more of a bastard GT clone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thanks everyone for your feedback it is appreciated. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Rick, I had my windshield installed professionally and elected to go with the rubber seal, with the embedded chrome strip. Here's the link to my website showing and describing the process. The installers just put extra glue in the holes to seal them up. I'm very pleased with the outcome.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) -- Rob Rob that looks great ! Thanks for the link. |
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| rfuerst911sc |
May 9 2009, 02:48 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
The glass guy showed up on time and started the install. First up was the rear window. He masked off the perimeter and painted on several coats of the frit band material. While that was drying he primed the perimeter of the chassis where the glass is to be installed. Took just a few minutes and the back glass was installed. That urethane adhesive is some amazing goop. Then on to the windshield. I discussed with the installer the OEM aluminum molding vs. the newer rubber molding. He stated he would use whatever I wanted. I asked his opinion and he said he prefered a plain rubber molding. He went to his truck and pulled out a roll and showed me what he recommended. I liked the way it looked but I told him I had heard that sometimes the corners will lift. He said don't worry I'll put a little extra urethane in the corners to stop that from happening. So I decided to go with the rubber molding and I'm glad I did I think it looks great. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The installer was very fussy and did a great job not only installing the glass but keeping and goop off my new paint. To say the least I'm a happy camper (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| Rav914 |
May 9 2009, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(watsonrx13 @ May 7 2009, 04:16 AM) Rick, I had my windshield installed professionally and elected to go with the rubber seal, with the embedded chrome strip. Here's the link to my website showing and describing the process. The installers just put extra glue in the holes to seal them up. I'm very pleased with the outcome.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) -- Rob Rob, that looks great. Where did you source the rubber and trim pieces? Pelican? |
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