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| Brett W |
 Mar 1 2004, 10:46 PM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 2,859 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None 
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I was checking on the net today and you can pick up a WRX motor for about 650 used. This is pretty complete. That would make a great 914 swap. Better turbo, and some cleaning up of the engine wiring and such you could have one bad ass daily driver.
You would still have the flat four and you could over come the limitations of the T4 engine. |
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| mightyohm |
Mar 1 2004, 11:06 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,277 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 162 Region Association: Pacific Northwest  |
Sounds great to me. Somebody please do it and let me drive your car. :-)
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| steve@ottosvenice.com |
Mar 1 2004, 11:13 PM
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From the centerline of the crank they are 4 inches deeper to the bottom of the sump than the 914 motor. A better fit is the Mazda V-6. Steve
http://offroadvw.net/bajawes/linktoV6.htm |
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| Jenny |
Mar 1 2004, 11:13 PM
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Fiid mentioned this over a year ago at a 914 breakfast.
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| soloracer |
Mar 1 2004, 11:18 PM
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I was thinking the exact same thing. I actually did a lot of research into which engine to get. The EJ22T was a turbocharged 4 in the early model legacy's. The block is a closed deck design and is supposed to be bulletproof. However, the head needs some work and from what I understand you should replace it with one from a 2.5 or 2.0 engine. However, for stock out of the box the EJ20T is pretty hard to beat. If I didn't get the deal I did on my 3 rotor engine I would probably be buying an EJ20T. Check out these links for Subaru info:
High Horsepower Tuner NASIOC Forum |
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| EdwardBlume |
Mar 1 2004, 11:18 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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Its been done, but does it go weeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!
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| Malmz |
Mar 1 2004, 11:22 PM
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CSOBOSC founding member Group: Benefactors Posts: 489 Joined: 22-April 03 From: So. Cal Member No.: 602 |
I don't think the sump depth is a problem, it's not any lower then a V8.
From what I have looked at, the challange is the Intercooler plumbing because it will have to be moved from it's stock location over the front of the tranny if you don't want to loose the rear trunk. Still very do-able, just needs to be addressed. sm |
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| Brett W |
Mar 1 2004, 11:25 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,859 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None
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Be nice if I knew what the naked engine looked like? THen I could tell if running a different pan would solve the problem. I remember seeing a bottom end out of one of those one time it looked like they had a nice brace in the water jacket to support the cylinder walls.
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| ChrisReale |
Mar 1 2004, 11:27 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
I guess the real question is why not?? The WRX is fairly new to the USA, so maybe nobody has gotten around to it....
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| Malmz |
Mar 1 2004, 11:32 PM
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CSOBOSC founding member Group: Benefactors Posts: 489 Joined: 22-April 03 From: So. Cal Member No.: 602 |
Like I've said before, find me a wrecked Passat W8 for cheap, cheap and I'll build my next 914...
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| Andyrew |
Mar 1 2004, 11:36 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,380 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Fiid is doing a EJ20T, and if all goes well with his transplant (as it is so far) I will be doing that as well.
Light, fast, and modifyable. Andrew |
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| fiid |
Mar 1 2004, 11:50 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(jkeyzer @ Mar 1 2004, 09:06 PM) Sounds great to me. Somebody please do it and let me drive your car. :-) Yeah - I'm workin on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) |
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| Andyrew |
Mar 1 2004, 11:56 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,380 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Any updates?
Oh ya, and if you havent seen it.. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...t=ST&f=2&t=9571 |
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| soloracer |
Mar 1 2004, 11:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 793 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Calgary Member No.: 538 |
Actually, technically Fiid has an EJ20TT (twin turbo). Even though the WRX is fairly new here they have been in Japan for years. There is a good supply of EJ20 engines coming to our shores from there. The new STi engine makes good power but for the price you would be better off buying an old EJ20T and modifying.
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| Freedom |
Mar 2 2004, 12:04 AM
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well you can do the 2.2l conversion there are ads in the VWprints all the time about T4 conversions.
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| Andyrew |
Mar 2 2004, 12:09 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,380 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Oh ya, I keep forgeting to add the extra 't', Too many engine possibilities.. arg
lol So, what would be the advantage of a single turbo vs a twin turbo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Hmm the twin turbo with little turbo's should spool faster than a single.. Hmm maybe it wouldnt be so bad for auto x... Anyone have a dyno diagram for a EJ20tt and an EJ20T and heck an EJ20 or any EJ engine's?? Fiid? Andrew |
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| stock93 |
Mar 2 2004, 01:36 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 333 Joined: 12-May 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 684 Region Association: South East States |
Brett,
If the oil pan clearance is an issue, do a search on www.dune-buggy.com. Theres several guys over there using the same engine with a modified oil pan for more gound clearance in their rails. John |
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| ChrisReale |
Mar 2 2004, 01:42 AM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
Damn...now you guys got me thinkin'. Where can you get these engines on the net for $650?
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| fiid |
Mar 2 2004, 01:47 AM
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| ChrisReale |
Mar 2 2004, 02:01 AM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
So....Fiid, ya got room in your garage right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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