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post Jun 4 2009, 04:39 PM
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I've thought about doing a Megasquirt for a while now to replace my carbs. I have a Mallory that works great, so to keep the initial cost down as well as keep it simple, I want to do fuel only, but have an upgrade path available for ignition later. Ideally if this could be done for under $500 that would be fantastic.

So...

What is the easiest, cheapest, most simple solution for induction parts? Throttle bodies, injectors, TPS, etc...? Which MS unit has the flexibility to do fuel now and ignotion later without starting all over again with a different ECU?

Engine is a 2056 that is built on a 1.8 case and heads with a 2.0 crank, rods and P/Cs. Currently running dual Weber 40 IDFs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (my own note: 40 IDF 70 9A, Italy)
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Gint   Cheap, simple, non-factory FI solution, parts, etc...   Jun 4 2009, 04:39 PM
SLITS   Just buy the TEC 2 Engine Management System I have...   Jun 4 2009, 06:03 PM
Gint   Just buy the TEC 2 Engine Management System I have...   Jun 4 2009, 06:42 PM
SLITS   Just buy the TEC 2 Engine Management System I hav...   Jun 4 2009, 08:20 PM
Gint   [quote name='Gint' post='1176738' date='Jun 4 2009...   Jun 4 2009, 09:25 PM
tat2dphreak   this is something I've thought about doing lat...   Jun 4 2009, 07:47 PM
orcadigital   I am interested too, would love to lose the single...   Jun 4 2009, 07:55 PM
rick 918-S   This is an important subject as our injection stuf...   Jun 4 2009, 08:23 PM
banger   Megasquirt is pretty cheap and easy, and you can u...   Jun 4 2009, 10:35 PM
toon1   No idea exactly what you're pimping though. C...   Jun 4 2009, 10:36 PM
McMark   My thoughts: The ECU setup is going to eat up most...   Jun 4 2009, 10:43 PM
banger   Actually with the Megasquirt, the TPS isnt even ne...   Jun 4 2009, 10:55 PM
Rotary'14   Avoid the hassel of building it yourself,, go with...   Jun 4 2009, 11:35 PM
charliew   While you are shopping keep in mind that the coil ...   Jun 5 2009, 12:02 AM
rick 918-S   I like McMarks test engine idea. Hey, So am I off ...   Jun 5 2009, 12:24 AM
sww914   Junkyard Subaru parts look interesting...   Jun 5 2009, 12:27 AM
banger   Most modern fuel injection systems are tuned to th...   Jun 5 2009, 02:17 AM
rick 918-S   Most modern fuel injection systems are tuned to t...   Jun 5 2009, 10:02 AM
lotus_65   what cam are you running? i've been thinking ...   Jun 5 2009, 06:03 AM
Gint   Megasquirt is pretty cheap and easy, and you can u...   Jun 5 2009, 08:22 AM
edwin   if you have webber manifold then bmw bike throttle...   Jun 5 2009, 06:46 AM
Gary   Hey Edwin - do you have the center-to-center spaci...   Jun 5 2009, 08:19 AM
rhodyguy   vw (jetta, golf, sirroco, etc) CIS. ed morrow used...   Jun 5 2009, 08:47 AM
toon1   Megasquirt is pretty cheap and easy, and you can ...   Jun 5 2009, 09:04 AM
Gint   Again, your carbs can be used as TB's, change ...   Jun 5 2009, 09:11 AM
tat2dphreak   not necessarily... the 1.8 heads have the same bol...   Jun 5 2009, 09:40 AM
Gint   not necessarily... the 1.8 heads have the same bol...   Jun 5 2009, 10:33 AM
tat2dphreak   not necessarily... the 1.8 heads have the same bo...   Jun 5 2009, 10:56 AM
biosurfer1   Wayne, you mean something like this? http://www.9...   Jun 5 2009, 09:49 AM
tat2dphreak   Wayne, you mean something like this? http://www....   Jun 5 2009, 10:54 AM
turboman808   megasquirt with some motorcycle throttlebodies   Jun 5 2009, 10:40 AM
SirAndy   :D http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopi...   Jun 5 2009, 10:41 AM
Gint   Btw, i also have a spare set of 40 IDF dual webers...   Jun 5 2009, 10:51 AM
Gint   They're not carbs though. They're expensi...   Jun 5 2009, 11:00 AM
rick 918-S   Just spoke with a mechanic friend. He has a comple...   Jun 5 2009, 11:27 AM
banger   The problem with using watercooled stuff is exactl...   Jun 5 2009, 03:55 PM
nein14   CIS injection from a VW GTI w/ Bus runners , plenu...   Jun 5 2009, 11:44 AM
Gint   Keep 'em comin gang! This is great.   Jun 5 2009, 11:51 AM
SirAndy   Keep 'em comin gang! This is great. My ...   Jun 5 2009, 12:28 PM
rick 918-S   [quote name='Gint' post='1177009' date='Jun 5 200...   Jun 5 2009, 12:38 PM
JWest   I've got a couple of Megasquirt 1 kits. You c...   Jun 5 2009, 04:44 PM
Gint   That would be awesome James. I can't take it ...   Jun 5 2009, 05:10 PM
wobbletop   Sorry to thread hi-jack... I'm a newb, but I h...   Jun 5 2009, 10:32 PM
r_towle   Sorry to thread hi-jack... I'm a newb, but I ...   Jun 7 2009, 10:06 AM
lotus_65   Sorry to thread hi-jack... I'm a newb, but I...   Jun 7 2009, 10:38 AM
zymurgist   You might want to start a new thread on that topic...   Jun 6 2009, 07:26 AM
Gint   :agree: A little more specialized and I'd li...   Jun 6 2009, 08:24 AM
DNHunt   I've now worked with MS1, MS2 and SDS. I'v...   Jun 6 2009, 10:00 AM
Cevan   If I wanted cheap, I'd find a 2 liter intake,...   Jun 7 2009, 11:16 AM
Gint   Thanks Dave. Harness huh... :idea: I've hear...   Jun 6 2009, 10:42 PM
sww914   Thanks for starting a great thread. Long overdue i...   Jun 6 2009, 10:51 PM
Phoenix-MN   How about the MicroSquirt system http://www.diyau...   Jun 7 2009, 08:29 AM
Gint   So, I'm thinking that the way to do this might...   Jun 8 2009, 08:01 AM
puff adder   I found this company while looking for ITB's f...   Jun 7 2009, 10:44 AM
crash914   I have also ran mine as a piggy back system on the...   Jun 7 2009, 11:05 AM
charliew   It's the programming for the different motor c...   Jun 7 2009, 11:26 AM
Gint   How about the MicroSquirt system http://www.diyau...   Jun 8 2009, 08:02 AM
underthetire   Think it's pretty much the same as the MS2. Ju...   Jun 8 2009, 09:41 AM
jd74914   I've used Microsquirt. Its not too difficult t...   Jun 8 2009, 11:22 AM
McMark   The system I have been posting about uses MicroSqu...   Jun 8 2009, 12:44 PM
Gint   The system I have been posting about uses MicroSqu...   Jun 8 2009, 06:58 PM
r_towle   [quote name='McMark' post='1178034' date='Jun 8 2...   Jun 8 2009, 07:14 PM
McMark   The motor runs, but I need to get a stock CHT sens...   Jun 8 2009, 07:11 PM
Gint   The motor runs, but I need to get a stock CHT sens...   Jun 8 2009, 07:20 PM
McMark   If it ain't D-Jet, it ain't MPS. ;) Thin...   Jun 8 2009, 07:34 PM
r_towle   MAF sensors as well which are a completely differ...   Jun 8 2009, 07:40 PM
Gint   If it ain't D-Jet, it ain't MPS. ;) Thin...   Jun 9 2009, 07:25 AM
Rotary'14   [quote name='McMark' post='1178238' date='Jun 8 2...   Jun 9 2009, 01:48 PM
Gint   Hi Gint,, MegaSquirts have an on board MAP sensor ...   Jun 9 2009, 05:36 PM
jhadler   As for the MegaSquirt's onboard MAP sensor, h...   Jun 9 2009, 05:46 PM
sww914   I'd argue that you need to measure temperature...   Jun 8 2009, 08:04 PM
tat2dphreak   I'd argue that you need to measure temperatur...   Jun 9 2009, 08:15 AM
McMark   Before I start this post, a definition. When I sa...   Jun 9 2009, 12:31 PM
kwales   There are other ways of measiuring airflow.. Don...   Jun 9 2009, 01:49 PM
McMark   I actually greatly prefer the remote MAP sensor of...   Jun 9 2009, 03:42 PM
jmill   Great topic and info. :popcorn:   Jun 9 2009, 04:53 PM
r_towle   Gint, contact DNHunt and see if he will sell his o...   Jun 9 2009, 05:25 PM
Gint   Spell it out for me. Does a vacuum line have to ...   Jun 9 2009, 05:51 PM
jhadler   Spell it out for me. Does a vacuum line have to...   Jun 9 2009, 06:03 PM
r_towle   Spell it out for me. Does a vacuum line have t...   Jun 9 2009, 06:35 PM
Rick_Eberle   [quote name='jhadler' post='1178707' date='Jun 9 ...   Jun 9 2009, 06:55 PM
Rotary'14   Spell it out for me. Does a vacuum line have t...   Jun 9 2009, 08:03 PM
Gint   Excellent... thanks! Wait till you see what...   Jun 9 2009, 08:27 PM
McMark   I also like the MicroSquirt because it's seale...   Jun 10 2009, 02:58 AM
Gint   New questions generated from yesterday's dicsu...   Jun 10 2009, 07:08 AM
jhadler   New questions generated from yesterday's dics...   Jun 10 2009, 12:02 PM
Gint   Gint, I think a whole lot of questions can be ans...   Jun 10 2009, 02:35 PM
McMark   You can see the little black vacuum port in the fo...   Jun 10 2009, 01:07 PM
McMark   :lol2: Jeff Keyzer was who pushed me to go crank ...   Jun 10 2009, 02:41 PM
Gint   :lol2: Jeff Keyzer was who pushed me to go crank f...   Jun 10 2009, 02:47 PM
jkeyzer   Mark summoned me so here's my $0.02! ...   Jun 10 2009, 03:16 PM
Gint   Mark summoned me so here's my $0.02! ...   Jun 10 2009, 04:04 PM
jmill   I'm loving this thread. :Qarl: The only rea...   Jun 10 2009, 03:27 PM
jhadler   I'm loving this thread. :Qarl: The only re...   Jun 10 2009, 03:45 PM
underthetire   Again, forget the MS1. Go MS2. If you plan on usin...   Jun 10 2009, 03:37 PM
Rotary'14   Again, forget the MS1. Go MS2. If you plan on usi...   Jun 10 2009, 04:14 PM
jkeyzer   You can do it with Megasquirt, and people do. The...   Jun 10 2009, 03:40 PM
underthetire   Multiple throttle bodies no problem, just one TPS ...   Jun 10 2009, 03:44 PM
jkeyzer   Gint - Yup, that's the same setup that I have...   Jun 10 2009, 04:05 PM
Gint   :cheer:   Jun 10 2009, 04:07 PM
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