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 Jun 4 2009, 04:39 PM
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Mike Ginter  Group: Admin Posts: 16,106 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains   |
I've thought about doing a Megasquirt for a while now to replace my carbs. I have a Mallory that works great, so to keep the initial cost down as well as keep it simple, I want to do fuel only, but have an upgrade path available for ignition later. Ideally if this could be done for under $500 that would be fantastic.
So... What is the easiest, cheapest, most simple solution for induction parts? Throttle bodies, injectors, TPS, etc...? Which MS unit has the flexibility to do fuel now and ignotion later without starting all over again with a different ECU? Engine is a 2056 that is built on a 1.8 case and heads with a 2.0 crank, rods and P/Cs. Currently running dual Weber 40 IDFs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (my own note: 40 IDF 70 9A, Italy) |
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Gint Cheap, simple, non-factory FI solution, parts, etc... Jun 4 2009, 04:39 PM
John Jentz I think you should be able to use the 1.8 L-Jet re... Jun 10 2009, 04:16 PM tat2dphreak there's been a lot of people to do megasquirt ... Jun 10 2009, 04:23 PM
Gint there's been a lot of people to do megasquirt ... Jun 10 2009, 04:25 PM tat2dphreak :) I would like that... everytime I try to figure ... Jun 10 2009, 04:32 PM underthetire I'd be happy to send you my MSQ file, the numb... Jun 10 2009, 04:34 PM McMark :agree: Independent throttle bodies (ITB) can use... Jun 10 2009, 04:48 PM DNHunt I'm running ITB's without a shared plenum.... Jun 10 2009, 07:12 PM banger With megasquirt you can actually run both MAF and ... Jun 10 2009, 11:24 PM Gint Quiet today...
Will stock 2.0 injectors flow enou... Jun 11 2009, 03:21 PM tat2dphreak
Quiet today...
Will stock 2.0 injectors flow eno... Jun 11 2009, 03:31 PM jkeyzer 2.0L injectors are oversized for a 2056. I use 1.... Jun 11 2009, 03:30 PM Gint I've heard that also, but I wanted to throw it... Jun 11 2009, 03:42 PM hcdmueller From what I remember the 2.0 and 1.8 runners are t... Jun 11 2009, 04:24 PM McMark From the PET:
022 133 201 B - 1.7 Intake Runner Ri... Jun 11 2009, 05:10 PM Gint I have four '022 133 211 A' runners which ... Jun 11 2009, 06:35 PM underthetire Just went through my intake runners last weekend. ... Jun 11 2009, 05:54 PM McMark ID Jun 11 2009, 06:38 PM rhodyguy mike, you still trying for a $500 budget? Jun 11 2009, 10:35 PM Gint For phaseI, yes. I want to use mostly stock compo... Jun 12 2009, 07:32 AM ottox914 Just to add more clutter to the discussion, I... Jun 12 2009, 10:35 AM Gint
Just to add more clutter to the discussion, I... Jun 12 2009, 02:55 PM jhadler
I've read your thread David. Even voted for ... Jun 12 2009, 03:29 PM ottox914
I've read your thread David. Even voted for ... Jun 13 2009, 01:07 AM pete-stevers
Sorry to thread hi-jack... I'm a newb, but I ... Jun 12 2009, 03:12 PM Gint That doesn't change the fact that it is expens... Jun 12 2009, 03:54 PM McMark Measured a 211C 1.8 intake runner (maybe bus 2.0?)... Jun 13 2009, 12:08 PM Gint I'm going to start scrounging for a complete 1... Jun 13 2009, 07:23 PM Gint Looked at various parts today. I think it might b... Jun 14 2009, 04:18 PM Gint Megasquirt is pretty cheap and easy, and you can u... Jun 15 2009, 08:42 AM Rotary'14
[quote name='Gint' post='1176931' date='Jun 5 200... Jun 15 2009, 09:50 AM banger I am running just fuel at the moment, but will con... Jun 15 2009, 10:01 AM tat2dphreak :popcorn:
hammering out exactly what to do to re... Jun 15 2009, 09:06 AM McMark You do not need an O2 sensor for MS, but you can r... Jun 15 2009, 12:04 PM jkeyzer A wideband O2 sensor is really helpful for tuning.... Jun 15 2009, 01:55 PM tat2dphreak what wideband O2 sensor would be the best, since w... Jun 15 2009, 02:21 PM jhadler ... also, would we need to use 2 o2 sensors, one o... Jun 15 2009, 02:30 PM tat2dphreak ok, that's what I was thinking too... I was th... Jun 15 2009, 02:49 PM jhadler
ok, that's what I was thinking too... I was t... Jun 15 2009, 02:59 PM underthetire I run my O2 on the collector. Too far back for a s... Jun 15 2009, 04:52 PM tat2dphreak I would think by the muffler would be too far back... Jun 15 2009, 06:48 PM banger Basically anywhere in the exhaust stream is good. ... Jun 15 2009, 06:54 PM Gint With mine, I drive the car with the logging turned... Jun 15 2009, 08:39 PM banger I use a wideband from Innovate Motorsports, the LC... Jun 15 2009, 08:43 PM Gint So you bought just the O2 sensor form them then? ... Jun 15 2009, 08:56 PM banger You can usually find the LC-1 wideband controller ... Jun 15 2009, 09:02 PM Gint Can't you just buy the sensor? Do you use the... Jun 15 2009, 09:06 PM banger With a wideband, you will need a controller. This... Jun 15 2009, 09:43 PM Gint With a wideband, you will need a controller. This... Jun 16 2009, 07:08 AM Rotary'14
With a wideband, you will need a controller. Thi... Jun 16 2009, 07:29 AM Gint Learning all kinds of stuff... Thanks. Jun 16 2009, 07:41 AM wobbletop There is a MegaSquirt article in the latest (Aug09... Jun 16 2009, 09:03 AM Gint That's probably worth a read... Jun 16 2009, 10:08 AM McMark Good O2 sensor info Rob! :thumbsup:
It's ... Jun 16 2009, 12:53 PM wobbletop Possible source for inexpensive wide band O2 syste... Jun 16 2009, 01:14 PM Gint Where'd everybody go? :lol:
Let's get do... Jun 17 2009, 07:36 AM banger From the stock D-jet system, you will need:
Injec... Jun 17 2009, 11:44 AM tat2dphreak basically everything except the TPS,MPS and ECU, r... Jun 17 2009, 11:52 AM jkeyzer Gint -
Here's what I did. I hope I didn... Jun 17 2009, 12:56 PM Gint Does this give you a better picture?
Yes it does. ... Jun 17 2009, 05:57 PM Gint Hmmm... :idea: definitely food for thought there.... Jun 18 2009, 06:05 PM DNHunt Well,
I'll take a whack at it from memory. I... Jun 17 2009, 12:59 PM Gint I'll take a whack at it from memory.
Your mem... Jun 17 2009, 06:21 PM banger For the TPS, almost anything will work. I found o... Jun 17 2009, 01:01 PM McMark TPS must accept the D-shaft, as well as turning th... Jun 17 2009, 04:15 PM banger Actually it doesnt really matter which way it goes... Jun 17 2009, 07:46 PM jkeyzer Mine is from a group buy on the MS forums several ... Jun 17 2009, 05:42 PM Rotary'14 To the guys who have done this before,,,
I bet it... Jun 17 2009, 08:01 PM McMark TPS - 1336385
Volvo Applications:
C70 '98... Jun 17 2009, 09:02 PM Rotary'14
TPS - 1336385
Volvo Applications:
C70 '98... Jun 18 2009, 10:45 PM Gint TPS - 1336385
Volvo Applications:
C70 '98... Jun 22 2009, 07:18 PM Gint Jeff, See post #163 please. :beer2: Jun 18 2009, 05:02 PM jkeyzer I think MS 3.0 includes all of the flyback circuit... Jun 18 2009, 05:26 PM jkeyzer I mounted them in the ECU box that I stuck between... Jun 18 2009, 06:37 PM Gint Nice. With pics even! Thanks. Jun 18 2009, 06:41 PM jkeyzer
Nice. With pics even! Thanks.
I'm upl... Jun 18 2009, 06:50 PM Gint Nice. With pics even! Thanks.I'm uploadi... Jun 18 2009, 10:08 PM jkeyzer
Wow. I like the way you did that. Very nice wor... Jun 18 2009, 11:24 PM crash914
all you need, included is a relay box and a har... Jun 18 2009, 07:22 PM banger If you dont want to spring for the relay board, it... Jun 18 2009, 11:45 PM Rick_Eberle
If you dont want to spring for the relay board, i... Jun 19 2009, 06:27 AM Gint This is fantastic! Thanks to all and keep ... Jun 19 2009, 09:39 AM jkeyzer I used the stock 914 relay board also. I am still... Jun 19 2009, 12:35 PM Gint That's what I'm planning on doing. I need... Jun 19 2009, 01:12 PM McMark FYI: The fuel pump wires are in the body harness (... Jun 19 2009, 02:44 PM Gint I know. They're still MIA. Some DAPO cut the... Jun 19 2009, 03:02 PM Gint I got motivated to go out and look for 'em. T... Jun 19 2009, 03:55 PM McMark Strip, solder, heatshrink. B) Jun 19 2009, 04:15 PM Gint Ok slackers... I gave you the weekend off. ;) Th... Jun 22 2009, 07:14 AM Gint This is a good one...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2... Jun 22 2009, 08:26 AM McMark No idea. Sorry. It took me a bit of searching to... Jun 23 2009, 12:58 AM sechszylinder Hi Mark, folks,
following the discussions concern... Jun 23 2009, 03:50 AM charliew Very nice craftsmanship Benno. It looks perfect. Jun 23 2009, 03:49 PM Gint Got me a wideband O2 and controller! :boing: ... Jun 26 2009, 09:10 PM jkeyzer Benno, nice job on that L-jet case! Reusing t... Jun 26 2009, 09:17 PM Rick_Eberle For my MSII setup, I used pin I of the Four Pin Co... Aug 5 2009, 10:16 PM mightyohm :agree: My harness is wired the same way. Aug 5 2009, 11:14 PM ClayPerrine Some Reference Info.....
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