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> suzuki 1.8 conversion, conversion engine swap
jamie74
post Jun 8 2009, 08:13 PM
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Anyone ever put a Suzuki motor in a 914? Specifically the engine from a 2000 Suzuki Esteem. 1.8 litre 122 hp.
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Cap'n Krusty
post Jun 8 2009, 08:15 PM
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All that work for 30 HP? The Cap'n
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post Jun 8 2009, 08:27 PM
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All that work for 30 HP? The Cap'n

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That a lot of work for performance that could easily be obtained from the Type IV.

If you're going to swap, make it worth while.
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post Jun 8 2009, 08:40 PM
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watercooled choices are small block chevy or subaru - everything else is against the law in all 52 states : )
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post Jun 8 2009, 08:41 PM
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Save that Esteem engine for the British cars. The 914 engine is just as good as that Esteem engine and your not raising the roll center, adding cooling problems and messing with an otherwise well designed car for very little HP gain.

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post Jun 9 2009, 01:41 AM
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If you're gonna with an inline 4 motor, i'd go with the Toyota 2zzge out of the Celica GTS, which is a 1.8L Inline 4 that is pushing around 190hp and redlining @ 7600rpm. Or you could go with the older Toyota 3sgte, which is a turbo'd 2.0L that ranged from 225-245hp depending on if it was an early or late model. But yeah in general if you're gonna go with an inline 4 i'd stick with a Toyota motor. Plain and simple they're reliable, rev happy, easy to fix, and easy to find parts for.
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post Jun 9 2009, 07:11 AM
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I seem to recall a suzuki conversion with the radiator in the back, mounted right next to the engine. It had an improvised engine tin that provided a place for the radiator to sit. The engine, radiator, and trans was all removed together when the engine was dropped. It was a very clean installation with (I think) absolutely no cutting of any trunks. I'd love to see more info too. I bet such a motor would get 40+ mpg in our little cars. A great daily driver conversion.
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jamie74 I wish you good luck with your project, be sure to post pics.
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edit: I just found some pics that Brant posted a while back.


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post Jun 9 2009, 06:54 PM
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watercooled choices are small block chevy or subaru - everything else is against the law in all 52 states : )


You must not be familiar with rotary power. 10,000 rpms and smooth as butta. Not to mention smaller and lighter than a type IV. Rotors go round and round which keeps vibration minimal compared to up and down motion of a piston engine. Or in the type IV case....side to side. Don't get me wrong, I still love the type IVs
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post Jun 10 2009, 05:46 AM
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QUOTE(Rotary'14 @ Jun 9 2009, 06:11 AM) *

I seem to recall a suzuki conversion with the radiator in the back, mounted right next to the engine. It had an improvised engine tin that provided a place for the radiator to sit. The engine, radiator, and trans was all removed together when the engine was dropped. It was a very clean installation with (I think) absolutely no cutting of any trunks. I'd love to see more info too. I bet such a motor would get 40+ mpg in our little cars. A great daily driver conversion.
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jamie74 I wish you good luck with your project, be sure to post pics.
-Rob

edit: I just found some pics that Brant posted a while back.



A Geo Metro motor in a 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Whats the point??? the Geo as it sits still weighs less than the 914 even with that conversion. Plus if you want a Geo that bad, and I own 2 currently, you can usually buy one for less than 2 grand and save yourself all that hassle making something work.

JM2CW,

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post Jun 11 2009, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(RON S. @ Jun 10 2009, 03:46 AM) *

QUOTE(Rotary'14 @ Jun 9 2009, 06:11 AM) *

I seem to recall a suzuki conversion with the radiator in the back, mounted right next to the engine. It had an improvised engine tin that provided a place for the radiator to sit. The engine, radiator, and trans was all removed together when the engine was dropped. It was a very clean installation with (I think) absolutely no cutting of any trunks. I'd love to see more info too. I bet such a motor would get 40+ mpg in our little cars. A great daily driver conversion.
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jamie74 I wish you good luck with your project, be sure to post pics.
-Rob

edit: I just found some pics that Brant posted a while back.



A Geo Metro motor in a 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Whats the point??? the Geo as it sits still weighs less than the 914 even with that conversion. Plus if you want a Geo that bad, and I own 2 currently, you can usually buy one for less than 2 grand and save yourself all that hassle making something work.

JM2CW,

Ron


actually its a more powerful engine then the Geo - an Esteem with 122 hp
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post Jun 11 2009, 04:58 PM
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When I read "suzuki" - I thought Hayabusa. Specifically, the Harley 1.4 litre, 175 HP
version. The V8 - even more so....

I think this would be the hot rod of the century in a 914!

http://www.h1v8.com/H2.html

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Damn... I was really hoping someone was committing to one of these!
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post Jun 11 2009, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(BKLA @ Jun 11 2009, 02:58 PM) *

When I read "suzuki" - I thought Hayabusa. Specifically, the Harley 1.4 litre, 175 HP
version. The V8 - even more so....

I think this would be the hot rod of the century in a 914!


The Hartley V-8 is my dream engine in a 914. Lots of revs, plenty of power, and not enough torque to be a serious issue with a 901.

Getting a 4 cyl Busa engine to work in a teener would probably require a serious regearing of the tranny. Lots of HP, but very little torque.

You'll probably be looking at a rebuild every 15-20,000 miles too. That's fine for a toy car though.

I want to put a Busa engine in a Sprite.
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