The doctor showed up yesterday, my tranny is now in surgury |
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The doctor showed up yesterday, my tranny is now in surgury |
jsayre914 |
Jun 14 2009, 12:27 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,188 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The doctor came by yesterday, to help me get my teener shifting again.
My tranny is not so bad, but he found a few things, all wrong bolts holding the exhaust togeather, rusted to crap, even different lenghts, one was as much as 2 inch longer oil filtre was not screwd on no gaskets on either side of CVs Almost no bushings at all in the firewall, ball socket or anywhere in the shift linkage few parts broken off the starter, exhaust was not secured to the block at all (that explains the backfireing on decel) inside the tranny he showed me the same clear silicon that is throught the engine case, when it was rebuilt by dapo there was also a lake in the engine compartment drivers side shelf, i did not know there was a drain there. loose bolts on the clutch plate i probably forgot some things.... but WOW This car was my daily driver, 125 miles per day untill 3 days ago. Some people should not be allowed to drive 914s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) Say what you want, i deserve it. But mabey someone could learn somthing from my example. I am very lucky. where would i be without you guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
VaccaRabite |
Jun 14 2009, 04:05 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,443 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
What would we say? You drive your car. Most of us - myself included - don't.
Get it back on the road and keep driving. Zach |
zymurgist |
Jun 14 2009, 04:39 PM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
Ow. I hope you didn't put the car together.
They must be tough little cars if they can be assembled with a heaping helping of fail, yet still be reliable enough to be a daily driver, though. |
jsayre914 |
Jun 14 2009, 06:31 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,188 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Hey Zach (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
you should plan to come up, when my parts come in. Theres still beer in the garage, and it sure was fun. we need a supervisor that is willing and able to drink all the beer while mike lays under the car with a transmission on his chest. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
VaccaRabite |
Jun 14 2009, 07:07 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,443 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I'm sure it was. I wish I was not so slammed.
I await my parts as well. Holding off on a weeks much needed vacation so I have the time to re-rebuild my engine and start driving. I think I am going to try and do it during the 1 week between Summer 1 classes and Summer 2 classes. Zach |
r_towle |
Jun 14 2009, 08:36 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
I consitantly find loose nuts and bolts on my car...
Mine has super stiff suspension. Now that I have found this...every two weeks I just up the front or the back and tighten everything. Last time I found the lower nuts on the tranny...one was missing the other was almost off... Thank god for spare parts.. My front end is after every autox...or once every two week..I always find something loose...its never the same thing. Rich |
Dr Evil |
Jun 14 2009, 10:43 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
It is amazing that your car has made it so far (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I cant talk too much shit in that you did drive it. If it were my car it would be in surgery until everything was perfect.....so it would be on jack stands indefinitely (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
What I found and will fix: - Missing firewall bushing - Missing cup bushing at trans shifter - Missing CV gaskets - Missing exhaust head gaskets - Incorrect and very loose exhaust head nuts (at least they were not seized (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) - Loose muffler bolts (the ones that were not seized (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ) - Worn out clutch fork pivot bushing - Loose oil filter (made a nice mess) - One clutch bolt not all the way tightened - Plug in the drivers hell hole area allowing for the formation of a nice muddy lake (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) The tranny looks like shit on the outside, but when I got into it the internals were practically brand new (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) I only had to do a little work on it since I was in there and could swap somethings around. All the seals were incorrectly done by the DAPO....fun to clean up after (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) The gear box is all sealed up now and is awaiting the parts for installation. Parts are on order. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) |
Dr Evil |
Jun 14 2009, 10:59 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Oh ya, an odd thing I noticed was that while putting force to the loose clutch bolt the engine turned very easily....I kept waiting for the compression to resist me but it didnt. If Joe haddent driven it that mornign I would have thought the engine was toast. Is this normal for 1.8? I havent ever worked on a 1.8, 1.7 and 2.0 sure. I know the 1.8 is a pretty poor performer, but wow. Joe better get started on that 2.0 build.
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VaccaRabite |
Jun 15 2009, 07:59 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,443 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Were the plugs removed before you started working?
Did you feel no compression at all? If the valves are tight enough, that could cause loss of compression as well. Zach |
Spoke |
Jun 15 2009, 08:22 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,978 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
I noticed the lack of resistance to turning with my 1.7L. I had to be careful when leaving it in gear w/o the parking brake on a sloped parking lot.
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ericread |
Jun 15 2009, 08:33 AM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
It takes a lot of balls to admit to the issues you have with your car. Good for you!
In the past few years there are no doubts I have done some bonehead things! But with the assistance of this BBS, and the eating of some humble pie, I have corrected most of the problems and I seemingly have a very reliable daily driver. You're right in that a lot of credit should go to the folks on this board that assist in a constructive manner. But a lot of credit also should go to the folks that spill their guts and feel comfortable in requesting assistance. You'll get your car straightened out, and be back on the road in no time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) In the mean time take Rich's advice, and put your car up on jackstands at least once a month to check all your significant bolts, look for leaks, and perform your basic maintenance. It'll save you a tow or two... Eric Read |
Dr Evil |
Jun 15 2009, 10:57 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Were the plugs removed before you started working? Did you feel no compression at all? If the valves are tight enough, that could cause loss of compression as well. Zach Nope, plugs were in. It might not be a bad idea to adjust his valves...do you still have that seal kit I brought you and does it have valve cover gaskets in it? I may need to order some. |
jsayre914 |
Jun 15 2009, 11:06 AM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,188 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Were the plugs removed before you started working? Did you feel no compression at all? If the valves are tight enough, that could cause loss of compression as well. Zach Dumb question... can i adjust the valves with the engine in the car but no tranny? seems easy acess, but no wheel to turn, and the rear of the engine is sitting on a jack stand. I dont want to complicate anything. should i just wait untill the tranny is back on ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
Dr Evil |
Jun 15 2009, 11:13 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Not a dumb question, Joe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
It is actually easier to do it with the tranny off and the exhaust off. You can see the fly wheel index point, and you can turn the fly wheel instead of the wheels. Just for the hell of it, I would like to check your valve adjustment. Do you have the valve cover gaskets? Will your wife let you work on the car? If so, you can always clean up the under side so we can track the progression of any leaks.....maybe we should change the pushrod tube o-rings while we are at it......ah crap, here comes a snow ball. Hows Sat look for you? |
VaccaRabite |
Jun 15 2009, 11:23 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,443 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Mike, Joe
I have about 6 sets of valve cover gaskets that I bought last time I ordered anything from Pelican. You are certainly welcome to a set. I've got viton pushrod tube seals too, depending what style tube you have. Zach |
jsayre914 |
Jun 15 2009, 11:25 AM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,188 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Not a dumb question, Joe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It is actually easier to do it with the tranny off and the exhaust off. You can see the fly wheel index point, and you can turn the fly wheel instead of the wheels. Just for the hell of it, I would like to check your valve adjustment. Do you have the valve cover gaskets? Will your wife let you work on the car? If so, you can always clean up the under side so we can track the progression of any leaks.....maybe we should change the pushrod tube o-rings while we are at it......ah crap, here comes a snow ball. Hows Sat look for you? Im going to the beach in one month (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) that means i have only 2 days a week for the next 4 weeks, to finish the basment construction. Then i need to finish kitchen demo, hand the ceiling in the kitchen, new floor, assemble the ikea cabinets (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) and paint , oh yeah the countertop too. tonight will be the last of the painting downstairs, and then i need to finish the trim. im not allowed to work on my car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) the house must be finished or... i am the only one not going to the beach. ...and i dont have any valve cover gaskets, but i think mine are new from about a month ago. |
jsayre914 |
Jun 21 2009, 10:28 AM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,188 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Thanks Mike for helping me with my car and .... my kitchen. We got the ceiling down along with all the blown in insulation,, (that was fun) after cleaning that up, Mike helped me install and wire up 5 recess light fixtures. Measure and hang 4 sheets of drywall, remove the sink and last cabintes, drink the beer, and entertain the kids. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) now i might be able to work on the car.... a little (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) after mike left i cut out a section of the floorthat was wet, and replaced it with a new piece. then i found the reason it was wet.... a pinhole in the copper supply line 8" above the floor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I had to shut off the water to the whole house, since the kitchen and bathroom upstairs run on the same valve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) but the bright side i started to lay the new kitchen floor, it looks like i will be done that tonight. next: assemble 15 cabinets which are currently in 57 boxes all mixed up in the garage. one word IKEA (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) hopefully the car will be done, and the kitchen done this week (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
Dr Evil |
Jun 21 2009, 12:28 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I can remove and solder in a patch for the pin hole if you want. It would take less than 5min.
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