Crank Position Sensor, for stock cooling engines |
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Crank Position Sensor, for stock cooling engines |
McMark |
Jul 13 2009, 10:11 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Since quite a few people were interested in crank fire and aftermarket FI system I finally finished up my crank position sensor setup. So if you want to run distributor-less ignition or modern FI, this setup is the ONLY setup built specifically to bolt onto a Type 4.
It's a complete bolt on upgrade, which means no drilling or modifying any parts to make this work. Only the cooling fan needs to be removed to complete the installation. This setup is great for modern FI system, which need a 'trigger signal'. Fuel only setups usually get their signal from the coil firing, but that signal is DIRTY and unreliable. This crank fire setup is smooth and clean. You can't beat it. There is no other setup built specifically for our motors. Quick easy installation with no headaches. Complete package price is $175 and includes the trigger wheel, the sensor w/ connector (pigtail or uncrimped), and the mounting bracket. You won't need to go searching for anything else. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-419-1244942673.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-419-1245008370.jpg) |
914werke |
Jul 13 2009, 01:13 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,990 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I want one of these!
What about a harness/connector? Is Jeff making those? |
JazonJJordan |
Jul 15 2009, 10:04 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 6-June 09 From: Atlanta-Augusta, Georgia area Member No.: 10,446 Region Association: South East States |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Excellent work- McMark! I will get one of these next month too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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euro911 |
Jul 16 2009, 12:05 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,858 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Very nice, but a question comes to mind:
How do you deal with the added thickness? ... will one need to shave [whatever the thickness of the 'trigger wheel' is] off the back of the fan mount to keep the belt aligned with the alternator pulley? |
hcdmueller |
Jul 16 2009, 08:01 AM
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????????????? Group: Members Posts: 542 Joined: 4-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 5,527 Region Association: England |
The trigger wheel is machined to be the correct thickness. You just replace the big washer with the trigger wheel. I got mine in the mail and it is beautiful. I can't wait to get it hooked up and running.
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McMark |
Jul 17 2009, 10:56 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
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McMark |
Jul 17 2009, 10:58 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
How do you deal with the added thickness? ... will one need to shave [whatever the thickness of the 'trigger wheel' is] off the back of the fan mount to keep the belt aligned with the alternator pulley? Yup, there is no added thickness. This is a 100% bolt on application. It can be done in about 5 minutes (with the motor out, but completely assembled) and requires absolutely no modification of anything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) |
euro911 |
Jul 21 2009, 11:50 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,858 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
So the sensor replaces the trigger points in the distributor?
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McMark |
Jul 24 2009, 02:15 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
This sensor is a key component of installing aftermarket fuel injection and/or some aftermarket ignition setups. What I'm offering here takes the guess work out of building these parts. But for a stock engine, these parts are useless. This setup essentially does nothing by itself, but as part of a bigger picture, they are very valuable.
If you've heard the term "crank fire" this product is the central component of that setup. |
JazonJJordan |
Jul 24 2009, 09:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 6-June 09 From: Atlanta-Augusta, Georgia area Member No.: 10,446 Region Association: South East States |
This sensor is a key component of installing aftermarket fuel injection and/or some aftermarket ignition setups. What I'm offering here takes the guess work out of building these parts. But for a stock engine, these parts are useless. This setup essentially does nothing by itself, but as part of a bigger picture, they are very valuable. If you've heard the term "crank fire" this product is the central component of that setup. McMark; Any likelyhood you will progress this further into a full package/solution? Just curious, great product. Thanks- |
McMark |
Jul 24 2009, 09:39 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I'm trying to motivate my genius EE into developing the ignition circuitry. The fuel injection setup I've been working on is complete as a fuel only solution. I'm working now on a coil on plug solution that will allow for fuel & ignition in one package.
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euro911 |
Jul 25 2009, 04:16 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,858 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
This sensor is a key component of installing aftermarket fuel injection and/or some aftermarket ignition setups. What I'm offering here takes the guess work out of building these parts. But for a stock engine, these parts are useless. This setup essentially does nothing by itself, but as part of a bigger picture, they are very valuable. If you've heard the term "crank fire" this product is the central component of that setup. |
914werke |
Sep 19 2009, 01:30 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,990 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Does the placement of the Pickup preclude the use of "full flow" plumbing?
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McMark |
Sep 19 2009, 01:36 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I think it might interfere with the return line. I'll check tomorrow and if it does I'll have to redesign the bracket, which isn't too big of a deal.
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914werke |
Sep 26 2009, 12:02 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,990 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Perhaps if it was moved to the case pinch bolt just below the oil fill tower?
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LotusJoe |
Dec 8 2009, 04:51 PM
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Europa Twink Driver Group: Members Posts: 406 Joined: 30-November 09 From: Southern California Member No.: 11,085 Region Association: Southern California |
Is your trigger system still avail.?
Thanks Joe Southern California |
McMark |
Dec 8 2009, 05:19 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Yes it is.
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ConeDodger |
Dec 16 2009, 11:17 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,837 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Since this WOULD be the perfect solution for me, if it works with SDS EFI I am wondering what SDS is using? Surely, they have not reinvented the wheel. Are they using some kind of GM electronics that can be adapted to your wheel and plugged in to their harness? Whoops! Answered my own question. GM LSX 24 Tooth. Seems to me you are redesigning to many more teeth than that. 48:1?
Invent more stuff! I want a billet aluminum YoYo with Porsche emblems on the side or 914! |
McMark |
Dec 16 2009, 09:15 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Looks like SDS is 'working on' toothed wheel setups. I've emailed them about what the latest is.
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arvcube |
Dec 16 2009, 11:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 170 Joined: 25-September 07 From: poway, ca Member No.: 8,147 |
dont their systems currently work on magnetic triggers? requiring proper positioning of magnets on crank pulley or what not?
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