The NorCal boys go to Tahoe to see the WCR Site!, Updated with pictures of the Street Rod event that we will be with! Options

[SirAndy]

I'm in for Tahoe if you can plan it for the same weekend this event takes place (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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[DBCooper]

This is getting a bit frustrating. Once again, no one decided conciously to have WCR 2010 on the same dates as RRC 2010. It was never considered. None of us on the comittee have ever been to RRC and it wasn't even a cloud in our sky...

We had a meeting and decided on dates, announced those dates and one person objected. I apologized and that person never gave another objection public or private. Check it yourself, it was the second post in the thread. It isn't my place to just hear a complaint and undo everything the comittee has decided. I brought it to the comittee, it was one person who never said another thing. We went ahead with our planning.

Rob, usually planners go out of their way, certainly beyond just polling members of their own organizing committees, to check for conflicts before setting dates. That's just part of the planning process. As you point out yourself you got a heads-up very early on. But for whatever reason decided to ignore it. Acting like the aggrieved party now is totally disingenuous. Dog in the manger.

Unfortunately the damage is done and it seems changing dates now would do more harm to the Tahoe group than the RRCers. Is there another viable date for the RRC? Or how much real damage is there? How many people would this really affect, people who now won't go to one or the other who would have attended both? How many vendors won't participate in one or the other because of the conflict? Because of their history the Red Rockers should have a good handle on the "normal" number of attendees, so will it really affect them? And Rob, the question needs to be be asked, would any of the arrangements you've made be harmed by having the dates changed? In other words are you so committed that no change is possible? If so how much damage would be done if you were to change? I know it's not a pleasant thought, but the situation as it exists right now isn't pleasant either. So if changing your dates would resolve the conflict is it a possibility?

[Gint]

I'll say it again... your committee was notified early on (even before you had solid dates for WCR10 I believe) that RRC was in September and given the date of the event. Your committee chose to schedule WCR10 on those exact dates anyway. Having someone complain about that choice you collectively made should not have been a prerequisite for making the date for WCR10 different than the RRC date. It should have been made a different date regardless once you had that information. Very simple.

In light of that I can certainly see why the RRC past and present planners are upset at your committee's choice of dates. And the attitude you've displayed since then hasn't helped at all. I'm a little... surprised at the very least that you can't see the forest for the trees. Perhaps you're just so busy arguing your point that you can't step back and look at this objectively.

I'm curious, where is the rest of your planning committee? We haven't heard from them? I'm not sure because I don't know who the members are. You're the spokesman for the group apparently so you're getting the brunt of the argument. I get that also FWIW.

Again, my attempt an an objective .02 And cross posted to both threads.

[RoadGlue]

There's a lot of chatter going on in the planning forum. I'm just a small pea there, so I'm keeping my mouth shut in the public forums for the most part. There hasn't been any resolution made in the planning forums and that's my guess as to why none of the other planners have chimed in. It's not like there's a huge rush considering the events are still a year out, but I know everyone would like to get this resolved ASAP.

[brant]

Randy,
not trying to make this any more difficult
but do share with the planning forum that RRC is going to move a week or two earlier at this point

at least the possibility of physically doing both events would exist that way

brant

[SLITS]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

It's now resolved .... back to your regular programming!

Thanks Brant ... we are assured sufficient time to paint the rocks red again!

[jcd914]

There are other member of the WCR2010 planning committee, 6 originally and at least 1 other volunteer since the start. Rob has been the cheerleader and promoter but has had no more power to chose or decide anything that anyone else on the committee. All of our decisions came after discussions.

I have not responded till now in part because I have been watching and reading in awe and a little fear at the sudden and viscous attack on Rob and this event.

When we started planning WCR2010 we of course wanted to make it the best event we could. While researching potential sites and facilities in Tahoe we were invited to join in with an existing event. After a group discussion, as in live sitting at a table together, we concluded that this event seemed to help us provide for a WCR that could offer everyone more than if we went it alone. The event, Cool September Days, had a date set already and other than the date being latter than other WCR events the date did not get much discussion.

I personally never knew there were any pre reserved dates for any events and never thought that scheduling an event over a year away would create a conflict. I presumed that others planning events would chose a date of there own, suiting there event and needs. It was not unexpected (by me) when there were a couple of people that expressed concerns over the date as there will never be an event that fits everyone's needs or schedule. The fact that only a couple people express concern (until now) I took as a good sign since the 914World seems to be very active and open to voicing their opinions.

There was never any malice or attempt to grab someone else's date but obviously we could have and should have researched our date and its impact more completely.

The planning committee is having a discussion amongst ourselves and looking at how and what to do next. We are concerned by this and are not going to just lay low until it blows over.

I personally apologize to anyone that feels I, as part of the planning committee, has slighted them or devalued their opinions and I apologize to Rob for being so slow to speak up and leaving him twisting in the wind so to speak.

Jim Dupree

I am posting this to both the active threads on this subject.

[TROJANMAN]

I am certain that know one ever truly believed there to be any "malice", just that you guys could have "planned" things a little better. Route 66 is always in the Spring, WCC is always in the summer and RRC is always in the fall. It has ALWAYS been that way. A little research would have clearly pointed this out. We are working on an RRC date of the week prior to your event, but events that close together will cause some to have to choose. If you think that is ok, then keep your date. I for one would think that a mid summer date would make more sense in a "traditonal" sense. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Sleepin]

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What does this pic have to do with WCR or RRC? Nothing....it absolutely makes no sense....kind of like Chewbacca!

[ConeDodger]

Admins, please shut down this thead.

[ericread]

YAY! Drama's over! Let's go to Tahoe!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

My first WCR!!! And in Tahoe!!!


Thanks to everybody for putting all the silliness aside and concentrating on the event. Please let me know if I can be of assistance.

Eric Read