What Would Joseph Do ?, Joes 2056 Options

[zx-niner]

My vote is for rebuilding the 1.8 with FI because that's what I would do if I was doing it again. I thought I needed the biggest and best so went with Raby's 2270 Performer. It's way more than I need for my driving intentions and, in retrospect, a 1.8 bumped to 1911 with stock FI would have been perfect.

In my case, I didn't realize the commitment required to go with such a high performance engine. Performance exhaust, remote oil cooler, specialized sensors and gauges, modified throttle linkage, ignition and fuel pump rewiring, etc. had to be dealt with after the basic engine was ready. It's a generalization, but many of us 914 owners run these cars on a budget. At least that's our original intent until we get so far in. I figure I would have saved $5-$7 thousand on the project and had an easier starting, smoother running car that still had factory heat/defrost for the winter.

Understand, I get my go-fast thrills and track fun on my motorcycle so the 914 is just used for overnight trips, occasional commuting and around town jaunts. Your 914 plans may vary.

[Jake Raby]

First Off:
It doesn't matter which case you use, my program levels the playing field and you can use anything from a 1.7- 2.0 to build ANY of my kits..

If you have perfectly functional stock FI system, and you don't want more than 115HP, then by all means use the stock FI.. My specific kit for stock FI is rated at 115HP.

READ my engine kit presentations and take the time to study them and understand them, not just a quick look.. ALL the information is there.

The entire engine kit line up, pricing and engine combinations will go through their bi-annual update starting in November 2009 through January 2010... POwer is going up, but not as much as the pricing..

[Dr Evil]

Here is the link to the 115hp 2056 kit Jake is talking about.
http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/store/p...=308&page=1

And here is the tutorial with all the answers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
http://www.rdtlabs.com/Presentations/raten...files/frame.htm

[Dr Evil]

In reviewing the presentation I see that the crank and rods are not retained at all from the old engine. Thus, that is why you can use any case. I say gut the 1.8 then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Joe, if you have the $$ and want to have performance with the least amount of pain, you cant beat the 115hp 2056 kit. It has EVERYTHING. I'll help you build it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

[Dr Evil]

OK, now I am confused. In one presentation it says that you get a new crank and dont need your old one. In the 115-2056 specific presentation it says you need a 2.0 crank??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

[Joe Bob]

WWJD?


Buy someone else's project and beat on the previous owner.....

[jsayre914]

OK, now I am confused. In one presentation it says that you get a new crank and dont need your old one. In the 115-2056 specific presentation it says you need a 2.0 crank??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

yup, it seems i need a 2.0 crank core, so i guess i would save money using the 2.0 case to start. But then i will need to purchase the d-jet that i just sold. (i think) i remember i cannot use l-jet on a 2.0 case without some modification of the intake manifolds.

from jakes site:

The core components that are needed at the time of the order from the customers long block are listed below:

•Any year or type of VW/ Porsche Type 4 engine case
•2.0 liter crankshaft
•Any Porsche 914 flywheel
•Any Porsche 914 cooling fan
•If the purchaser lacks any these items at the time of kit purchase core charges of 825.00 will be assessed.

[Dr Evil]

Joe, you can use the L-jet. It wont be hard (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[VaccaRabite]

Joe, I have a spare 2.0 crank (and rods).

Yours if you need it.

But, you really have no problem here. sell the 1.8 and use the 2.0 you have as your core motor.

Zach

[Jake Raby]

The 2056-115 is based from a 2.0 crank and rods.. ANY case can be used.
If you do not have 2.0 crank and rods, because you have a 1.8 engine- no worries, just pay the core charge.

The best way to ensure that you are clear on the entire kit is to schedule a chat with Blake and I...