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Still no turn signals |
silverteener |
Aug 22 2009, 02:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 9-August 05 From: East Moline, IL Member No.: 4,566 |
We'll..
I got another hazard switch today and still have no turn signals. I have replaced the turn signal lever and put a new relay in. I also checked the light bulbs and they are 1157's. I found a ground under the dash above the fuse box and it is tight. This thing is really starting a piss me off. I'm thinking it's going back on jackstands til next year. I'm at a lose and there is no one around here to take it too. Any more suggestions? It's a 72 that I would like to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) right now! |
type47 |
Aug 22 2009, 03:16 PM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Only suggestions I can make are to find places in the wiring where you can apply 12 V to see if things operate; for example, take a spare 12 V car battery and ground the - and apply +12 V to a connector (lets pretend there is one in the front of the trunk) and see if the lights work. If they do, then go forward toward the fuse box and recheck. I'm having to do something similar with a Vanagon I have where the turn signals and wipers don't work. I verify that the lights work from the turn signal switch back to the lights, then go forward. I found a disconnected ground wire and now have wipers. I also thought maybe the turn signal and wiper switches didn't work but saved $ by not buying a part for a part still working.
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orange914 |
Aug 22 2009, 03:16 PM
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http://5starmediaworks.com/index.html Group: Members Posts: 3,371 Joined: 26-March 05 From: Ceres, California Member No.: 3,818 Region Association: Northern California |
get a diagram and trace power from the fuse up, wire by wire.
if your not familiar with this get a good test light (for visual), or better yet a volt meter (for acual voltage drop). ground and check your voltage (or test w/ light) at fuse (example 12.5v or lights up). locate where this wire go's to next. check the voltage or test with light. keep going wire by wire and component by component. note; make sure ALL the fuses are in and good. these cars do strange electrical things with fuse issues good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
silverteener |
Aug 27 2009, 07:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 9-August 05 From: East Moline, IL Member No.: 4,566 |
trying to work on this again. I had an exta fuse panel and some of my connections were corroded so I clean it up and swapped panels. I also have a new relay in. I got a used hazard switch and put it in and nothing. Actually when I pulled it to see if the hazards would work it blew fuse 11 with the new hazard switch. I cleaned up my old one but and put it back in but no luck. Now i'm studying up on wiring diagrams to try to trace things. I'm not good at electrical so anymore advise would be great. I do have a multimeter but I really don't know how to use it. I'm wondering why that fuse blew? I have good bulbs in but I still need to clean all their electrical connections. I hate this stuff. In my part of the world I have about 2 months of driving left before it's stored for the winter and I'm running out of time. guess I could just use hand signals. Can anyone refresh my memory on those (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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904svo |
Aug 27 2009, 09:37 PM
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904SVO Group: Members Posts: 1,118 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Woodstock,Georgia Member No.: 5,146 |
Let me know the results of this test, with key off and 4 way flasher on what bulbs light or flash? PS,the flasher should blink.
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silverteener |
Aug 28 2009, 11:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 9-August 05 From: East Moline, IL Member No.: 4,566 |
came home for lunch so I could try it but I don't get any light on the hazard switch with the car off. No clicking and no outer lights either. What's next!!! I do have a blown #7 fuse that I'm going to replace tonight. Thanks Scott |
GaroldShaffer |
Aug 28 2009, 02:46 PM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,622 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None |
I'm at a lose and there is no one around here to take it too. Any more suggestions? It's a 72 that I would like to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) right now! Have you talked with Brad Mayeur over at 914LTD? 309-694-1797. He is about 1 1/2 hours away from you in East Peroia IL |
904svo |
Aug 28 2009, 03:47 PM
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904SVO Group: Members Posts: 1,118 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Woodstock,Georgia Member No.: 5,146 |
came home for lunch so I could try it but I don't get any light on the hazard switch with the car off. No clicking and no outer lights either. What's next!!! I do have a blown #7 fuse that I'm going to replace tonight. Thanks Scott Check BOTH SIDES of fuse #9 that powers the flasher when the 4 way is pull out. let me know. |
silverteener |
Aug 28 2009, 06:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 9-August 05 From: East Moline, IL Member No.: 4,566 |
I didn't get any volts from either side on #9. I did on 10 just to make sure I was doing it right. I checked with the key off and the 4 way pulled out.
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904svo |
Aug 28 2009, 06:40 PM
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904SVO Group: Members Posts: 1,118 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Woodstock,Georgia Member No.: 5,146 |
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silverteener |
Aug 28 2009, 08:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 9-August 05 From: East Moline, IL Member No.: 4,566 |
on the top I got 12v but the bottom was sparking and barely had anything. Then the fuse blew!
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904svo |
Aug 28 2009, 08:36 PM
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904SVO Group: Members Posts: 1,118 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Woodstock,Georgia Member No.: 5,146 |
on the top I got 12v but the bottom was sparking and barely had anything. Then the fuse blew! Sounds like you have a short in the light circuit. Remove ALL the light bulbs, insert a new fuse and check again, if you have voltage insert the bulbs one at a time and see if they work. You might find a bad socket or a shorted socket. |
silverteener |
Aug 29 2009, 07:55 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 9-August 05 From: East Moline, IL Member No.: 4,566 |
I took all the bulbs out and put a new fuse in and it started to arc little at the bottom when I turned the flasher on. I was trying to get a reading at the bottom and the fuse blew. I'm out of fuses so I'll get more today. I had another fuse board so last night I cleaned it up and moved the connections to the new board. maybe I mixed up these 2?? would it hurt anything to switch them 2 and try it just to see. I thought I had them all correct but you never know.
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904svo |
Aug 29 2009, 08:32 AM
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904SVO Group: Members Posts: 1,118 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Woodstock,Georgia Member No.: 5,146 |
You have a short in the circuit, goto to your auto store a buy a 3157 lamp.
You then twist the leads coming out of the bulb. Use clip leads to connect these leads to the # 11 fuse the bulb will be use as a indicator to find your short. The bulb will glow if there is a short by checking your connections you should be able to find the short. Fuse #11 powers the interior light,4 ways and buzzer circuit (if equipped) and the clock if you have the console. I would check the interior light light circuit first as this wiring get shorted from the seats. When you clear the short the bulb should go out. Hope you find your short. |
silverteener |
Aug 29 2009, 12:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 9-August 05 From: East Moline, IL Member No.: 4,566 |
I have a 3157 bulb but i'm confused on how to run the test. do I hook up the bulb to to panel with the fuse in #11.
"The bulb will glow if there is a short by checking your connections you should be able to find the short". I'm not sure exactly how to do this either. I did take all the bulbs out again, with them all out and a good fuse in, once I pull the hazard switch the fuse blows. |
silverteener |
Aug 29 2009, 12:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 9-August 05 From: East Moline, IL Member No.: 4,566 |
I forgot you said it runs the interior light. I went out and took that bulb out, put a new fuse in, can pulled the hazard switch and the fuse did not blow. I still don't know how to fix it but maybe it is in the interior light. Am I looking for a bare wire or something?
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silverteener |
Aug 29 2009, 01:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 9-August 05 From: East Moline, IL Member No.: 4,566 |
Where does the interior light ground. I traced the wires on pelican and it goes to ground connection point A. Does anyone know which one is A
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jt914-6 |
Aug 29 2009, 01:27 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
According to my diagram, the interior light grounds in the engine compartment.
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orange914 |
Aug 29 2009, 01:36 PM
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http://5starmediaworks.com/index.html Group: Members Posts: 3,371 Joined: 26-March 05 From: Ceres, California Member No.: 3,818 Region Association: Northern California |
i eally dont understand it but i've seen weak grounds take out fuses (twice). redundant grounds will never hurt a 40 year old car I.M.O.
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silverteener |
Aug 29 2009, 01:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 9-August 05 From: East Moline, IL Member No.: 4,566 |
I cleaned that ground up and put the interior bulb in and pulled the hazard switch and it didn't blow the fuse. So I put all the bulbs back in and pulled the hazard switch but the lights still won't work. the hazard switch doesn't blink or click. I started it to see if my turn signals would work but they don't either.
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