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Rod |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Farnham UK Member No.: 8,526 Region Association: England ![]() |
I can get my hands on this engine very reasonably would it be a good choice for a 914 swap or would a 3.0 or a 3.2 be a better bet?
Engine number 6151404 1975 2.7 with cis |
thesey914 |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,155 Joined: 1-January 03 From: Staffordshire -England Member No.: 66 ![]() ![]() |
Rod, sounds like the 150hp/235lbs/ft version. Has it got a 5 blade fan?
You'll love a six in your car. Good thing about 2.7 is it can use the six bolt 901 flywheel, although these are hard to get now so buying a nine bolt conversion flywheel from patrick might even be easier. I would recommend the smaller engines too (2.2 + 2.4) |
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
A decent 2.7L will give you wood!
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,609 Joined: 21-March 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,795 Region Association: Northstar Region ![]() |
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VaccaRabite |
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En Garde! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,722 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
What shape is the motor in?
Has it had all the 2.7 "stuff" done to it? Fix the stuff that usually breaks on a 27 ands stuff it on in there. Your car will be a little rocket ship. |
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saved from fire! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,648 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() ![]() |
not to discourage a six build but why did theat 2.7 get taken out of the 911 in the first place
with the current prices on 3.0 i would much prefer to have an aluminun block in place, and cheaper to rebuild than a 2.7 mag case |
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Pcar fan ![]() Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 4-August 08 From: Collierville, Tn. Member No.: 9,389 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
in the long run you will be better off with the 3.0 or 3.2..the 3.2 with motrinic efi would be best...the 2.7 does not have all the up-dates a 3.0 has such as aluminum case, some have nick-seal cylinders..ultimatly any flat six is good but most any old 2.7 is going to need rebuilding and thats going to cost 10k to do it right and thats just for the parts....the newer the better plus a 3.2 will give you 250+hp. and around 200 for the 3.0...do you have any history on the engine? and whats the price your paying?i would not pay more than $1500 for a mystery 2.7..
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missing my NY 914 in VA ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
I agree with Mike, in that if you are shopping for a new motor, go with the 3.0 (SC motor) or the 3.2 (carrera) motor.
The 2.7 motors are the most fragile in un-updated form and unless the motor was free will likely cost you more than the 3.0 or 3.2. Of course, the years do matter with the 2.7 as the later 2.7's were installed with thermal reactors which pretty much killed them (heat) and they were often taken out and replaced with the newer motors. Also, the head studs are notorious for pulling out and the original fix by Porsche for this problem is failure prone as well. SO, that is probably why we see more of them than any other series for sale. NOW, I am no 911 engine guru, but this story about the 2.7 has been told ever since I was a kid and most everyone who has one that I know agrees, or has already been through this. I hope this helped. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Farnham UK Member No.: 8,526 Region Association: England ![]() |
I hope this helped. Helps a lot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Enough to keep my wallet in my back pocket and hunt for that 3.2 Carrera I was looking for in the first place.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif) |
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Irrelevant old fart ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None ![]() |
There are a lot of opinions here but apparently not much actual experience....with a few exceptions. I know a fella that has well over 200K miles on his (never opened) 2.7L and he flogs the thing regularly.
With any used motor one could ask "why was the engine removed....". One could spend $10K..."just on parts" but I have no idea how. No thermal reactors in the UK in 75', eh? Ah well, this is the internet..... All the 911 engines can have back holes just waiting to be filled with your dollars (pounds). All were good at one point in their lives. Pitfalls abound in any used motor. All are core motors unless you can see and hear them run. All are not equally expensive to rebuild.....but BS is free. The 2.7L is one of the least expensive due to parts availability (both new & used). I know bout 2.7s. This one *may* be F/S in a couple weeks. Attached thumbnail(s) ![]() |
ArtechnikA |
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rich herzog ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None ![]() |
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Irrelevant old fart ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None ![]() |
I know bout 2.7s. This one *may* be F/S in a couple weeks. i _may_ be interested. keep me posted... Be advised, it uses race gas.......but it's a hoot & smells gud. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Really old member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 14-August 05 From: OR Member No.: 4,590 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() ![]() |
I'm with JP on this... a 2.7 can be quite a nice motor. Pushes a light 914 very well, thank you!
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J P Stein |
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Irrelevant old fart ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None ![]() |
I'm with JP on this... a 2.7 can be quite a nice motor. Pushes a light 914 very well, thank you! Another voice crying in the wilderness.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
ArtechnikA |
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rich herzog ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None ![]() |
Be advised, it uses race gas.......but it's a hoot & smells gud. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) can't see the dizzy but there's only one coil so I'm guessing it's still single ignition. Another set of plugs could put it in the 93-octane pump gas region for light use, i'm thinking... |
J P Stein |
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Irrelevant old fart ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None ![]() |
Be advised, it uses race gas.......but it's a hoot & smells gud. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) can't see the dizzy but there's only one coil so I'm guessing it's still single ignition. Another set of plugs could put it in the 93-octane pump gas region for light use, i'm thinking... True, single plug.....it was a NOS 74 Euro Carrera dizzy a few years back, BTW.....not cheep these days. A guy could swap out the pistons ......new JEs 9.5:1 for close to a wash with the sale of the Mahles. A good twin plug set-up is pricy. The good news is a prospective customer (or his represenative) could take a trip up the street with me to a chassis dyno and get a new set of numbers. There is an iron in the fire (or 2) to avoid parting out the car.....we'll see. |
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,798 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
JP that distributor I sold you is for sale on 911S registry for 1200 nos
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J P Stein |
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Irrelevant old fart ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None ![]() |
Yeah, I should'a bought 100 of em'........so should'a you. It beats the hell out of my 401k. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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I like big butts and I can not lie! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
I like mine.....I am redoing a bad mistake now that has cost me About $4k (newly recoated nikasil cyl's , new JE pistons, new DC40 cams, refurbished rockers, rebuilt heads (3 angle grind etc) and the parts and bits to assemble.
Itwas a sick (as in poor running) engine in my teener and would still rocket around....I'd recommend a 2.7 ![]() |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() |
A properly prepared 2.7 is a hoot, and a lot of fun in a 914 chassis! Yes, it is not as robust as a 3.0, but it is not all that bad if properly prepared. After all, what did the awe inspiring 911RS use? Any of these old engines are $$$$$ to rebuild properly!
Nice article in the new issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car (October issue) on the 911RS (in big bumper form) |
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