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SixerJ
I know Eric has had a lot on his plate recently but has anyone heard anything about the hardlines?
mb911
QUOTE(SixerJ @ Oct 30 2016, 01:33 AM) *

I know Eric has had a lot on his plate recently but has anyone heard anything about the hardlines?



I don't know but I would be willing to take over the project and add it to my product line if no one else is doing it?
SixerJ
QUOTE(mb911 @ Nov 13 2016, 08:19 PM) *

QUOTE(SixerJ @ Oct 30 2016, 01:33 AM) *

I know Eric has had a lot on his plate recently but has anyone heard anything about the hardlines?



I don't know but I would be willing to take over the project and add it to my product line if no one else is doing it?


That would be vcool!
mb911
QUOTE(SixerJ @ Nov 13 2016, 11:44 PM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Nov 13 2016, 08:19 PM) *

QUOTE(SixerJ @ Oct 30 2016, 01:33 AM) *

I know Eric has had a lot on his plate recently but has anyone heard anything about the hardlines?



I don't know but I would be willing to take over the project and add it to my product line if no one else is doing it?


That would be vcool!



I would need samples..
SixerJ
QUOTE(mb911 @ Nov 15 2016, 01:03 AM) *

QUOTE(SixerJ @ Nov 13 2016, 11:44 PM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Nov 13 2016, 08:19 PM) *

QUOTE(SixerJ @ Oct 30 2016, 01:33 AM) *

I know Eric has had a lot on his plate recently but has anyone heard anything about the hardlines?



I don't know but I would be willing to take over the project and add it to my product line if no one else is doing it?


That would be vcool!



I would need samples..


I can't remember who actually has a set off their car to take a pattern from, Eric I think was going to pick up an original factory set off someone, possibly
Sixnotfour I think as he was making them a while ago

There is definitely a demand for the GT hardlines. Since I originally posted have got nearly all the factory GT parts together (much of it NOS) apart from the hardlines and some of the engine flexy lines
JmuRiz
Looks like the Elephant Racing kit went from $1600 to $2188 in the time this thread has been open....yikes!

I do like the idea of their routing (no driver's foot-space taken up), but damn that's $$
mb911
QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Jan 12 2017, 12:23 PM) *

Looks like the Elephant Racing kit went from $1600 to $2188 in the time this thread has been open....yikes!

I do like the idea of their routing (no driver's foot-space taken up), but damn that's $$



That's insane.
mepstein
QUOTE(mb911 @ Jan 12 2017, 03:56 PM) *

QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Jan 12 2017, 12:23 PM) *

Looks like the Elephant Racing kit went from $1600 to $2188 in the time this thread has been open....yikes!

I do like the idea of their routing (no driver's foot-space taken up), but damn that's $$



That's insane.

I don't think the old version went over the front wheel but I could be wrong. It is a nice kit and there's a lot to be said about a bolt on product vs. building your own. I don't have the skills to build my own. sad.gif
forrestkhaag
Agree with Mark here. A kit is a nice thing on something this involved tooling wise. Also, from what my research says, the factory lines did not go up and over the wheel as Mark correctly questioned / Thru the cabin and on to the front cooler in the front trunk area. http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/22239495
JmuRiz
They probably made their version go on the passenger side and up the wheel well because that's how the 911 is (their area of primary expertise).

I do like that idea, but for that price they would have to include the cooler and ALL of the oil lines (from tank to engine cooler, breather, etc).

BTW - Looks like my 2.7 build will have more parts involved (not as good a core as I'd hoped) so maybe I'll have to do the front cooler route for the hotter engine.
SierraNevada
Does anyone produce these hard brass lines besides Elephant Racing? Is Eric still at it? If anyone has a set or knows of a new set please PM me.
SixerJ
Don't think so, you, me and a couple of others bump the thread but I can't even figure out who has a set to make patterns from

I was hoping they may find their way to McMark, MB911 etc. Maybe Merick in EMEA

I'm definitely in for a set
wes
Just a Bump to keep this going in the case someone might produces them, I'd sure like to go this route!
mb911
QUOTE(SixerJ @ Jun 11 2017, 10:25 PM) *

Don't think so, you, me and a couple of others bump the thread but I can't even figure out who has a set to make patterns from

I was hoping they may find their way to McMark, MB911 etc. Maybe Merick in EMEA

I'm definitely in for a set



I know Glenn has a set in Batavia il but not sure how much real demand there is for these. ???
raynekat
Here's a set for sale on German eBay:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/PORSCHE-914-6-GT-Ol...JsAAOSwR0xZttqY
mb911
And what is 101,00 euros stand for?
Norskpole
QUOTE(raynekat @ Sep 13 2017, 10:24 AM) *



Seller won't ship to the USA... sad.gif
mb911
I still think these would be very easy for me to make if I had samples.
mb911
I have found someone state side willing to make these.. I need a sample to send but I have worked with this company for 12 years. Good people and top notch work..
mb911
I have found someone state side willing to make these.. I need a sample to send but I have worked with this company for 12 years. Good people and top notch work..
SixerJ
Been super busy lately and have been meaning to add to the thread, but time has got away from me. It was me that snagged the lines off eBay, for on the face of it a decent price (sorry folks if I nabbed them off you) but you may have dodged a bullet and only time will tell

Ben PMd me at the weekend poke.gif along with I'm guessing a bunch of other members, to gauge interest, the bottom line is that I'm still 99 percent sure I'd be a buyer

Was super stoked initially about the eBay purchase and seller went out of his way crating them up so cannot really complain......but not quite the real thing and will need work before they would even begin to fit I fear as the shape is not right. They have been clearly fashioned off the real thing but, I think due to the issues of working with the material and / skill of fabricator they are not a perfect facsimile & in particular the top line where it goes over the jack point is not right

Lines are not brass but plated CDS and would, at a minimum need more shaping / good clean before I would hook them up in an oil system. I was figuring on a strip back to clean steel, then re-plate, possibly with brass etc confused24.gif . Cost of mod, would I am guessing go a long way towards proper brass lines

Check out Andy's lines in his thread against the eBay ones and you will see what I mean

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...1062&st=400

Ben, I would happily ship them but I honestly think we could end up with a poor Xerox copy of a copy of a copy (plus it's going to be expensive....to ship / customs and whatnot). We would also need a car with the holes cut in the longs / jack point mod to figure out how far off these lines really are

Ultimately not sure if shipping these to you would actually help verses making from scratch / off known good photos if that makes sense?

Ben really needs to borrow a brass set stateside to get this off the ground on a firm footing and there in lies the issue. No one has a set, or would appear not willing to lend

Two steps forward and one back I fear headbang.gif

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mb911
I am picking up Glenns original set this weekend so hopefully a great sample to start with.. Also all the other GT lines.. Yeah..
Norskpole
beer.gif Way cool...waiting anxiously to see what you come up with!
SixerJ
piratenanner.gif , not that I'm superstitious but that has to be yin and yang in action

When you say the other lines, T line and the short stubby L?

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mb911
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mepstein
QUOTE(mb911 @ Oct 24 2017, 08:49 AM) *

Wow. I've never seen anyone reproduce the GT lines. This is awesome!
mb911
I should have 1st sets of hardlines in about 3 weeks. Let me know who wants a set.. Gonna be steel and zinc plated.
mb911
So a couple of updates. Was able to get the brass lines off to the manufacturer. Looks like steel or Brass is the same price.. Will probably go brass. The major hold up is the fire's in California are not allowing the employees to get to the manufacturer so things slowed.. Still making progress.
SixerJ
Oh wow, how did I miss the updates

Will send you a PM, I'm in for brass with metric fittings
mb911
QUOTE(SixerJ @ Dec 10 2017, 12:44 AM) *

Oh wow, how did I miss the updates

Will send you a PM, I'm in for brass with metric fittings



They are happening.. I imagine shipping is going to be the next challenge.
mepstein
QUOTE(mb911 @ Dec 10 2017, 10:53 AM) *

QUOTE(SixerJ @ Dec 10 2017, 12:44 AM) *

Oh wow, how did I miss the updates

Will send you a PM, I'm in for brass with metric fittings



They are happening.. I imagine shipping is going to be the next challenge.

I would cut out plywood in a rectangle and strap the lines down. Then cover with bublewrap in a cardboard box.
We get sent brand new 911 hardlines in just plain cardboard boxes and 25% come through bent beyond use. It wastes hundreds of dollars but the shipping department doesn’t seem to care.
wes
popcorn[1].gif I’m very interested and waiting, to be used on my 2.4 won’t stay cool 4!
colingreene
I need a set
porbmw
QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 24 2017, 06:45 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Oct 24 2017, 08:49 AM) *

Wow. I've never seen anyone reproduce the GT lines. This is awesome!



Is there a "sign up" for these...and...if so, can you add me to the list?
THx
Paul beerchug.gif
ajserrano
QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 24 2017, 06:45 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Oct 24 2017, 08:49 AM) *

Wow. I've never seen anyone reproduce the GT lines. This is awesome!


We reproduced two of the GT factory oil lines. Here is one...

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mb911
QUOTE(porbmw @ Dec 10 2017, 09:28 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 24 2017, 06:45 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Oct 24 2017, 08:49 AM) *

Wow. I've never seen anyone reproduce the GT lines. This is awesome!



Is there a "sign up" for these...and...if so, can you add me to the list?
THx
Paul beerchug.gif



Paul no sign up yet but send me an email and I will send you updates..
gms
QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 24 2017, 08:45 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Oct 24 2017, 08:49 AM) *

Wow. I've never seen anyone reproduce the GT lines. This is awesome!

that is a picture of my NOS oil lines
mepstein
QUOTE(gms @ Dec 11 2017, 07:24 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 24 2017, 08:45 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Oct 24 2017, 08:49 AM) *

Wow. I've never seen anyone reproduce the GT lines. This is awesome!

that is a picture of my NOS oil lines

Yes, I get that. I just wonder why no one (till now) has put together a repro kit.
porbmw
PMs sent
thx beerchug.gif
gms
QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 11 2017, 06:44 PM) *

QUOTE(gms @ Dec 11 2017, 07:24 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 24 2017, 08:45 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Oct 24 2017, 08:49 AM) *

Wow. I've never seen anyone reproduce the GT lines. This is awesome!

that is a picture of my NOS oil lines

Yes, I get that. I just wonder why no one (till now) has put together a repro kit.

There are people making them but they are more expensive then most are willing to pay. If you are going to use aluminum ends they will be $100-150 each end.
I paid over $1000 for that set back when they were still available (over 20 years ago).
porbmw
QUOTE(gms @ Dec 11 2017, 06:12 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 11 2017, 06:44 PM) *

QUOTE(gms @ Dec 11 2017, 07:24 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 24 2017, 08:45 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Oct 24 2017, 08:49 AM) *

Wow. I've never seen anyone reproduce the GT lines. This is awesome!

that is a picture of my NOS oil lines

Yes, I get that. I just wonder why no one (till now) has put together a repro kit.

There are people making them but they are more expensive then most are willing to pay. If you are going to use aluminum ends they will be $100-150 each end.
I paid over $1000 for that set back when they were still available (over 20 years ago).


But then....
Those that have gone down the very slippery slope....and find they have hit a big bump near the bottom... sad.gif
sixnotfour
here was the Kit for sale.. July 2017
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=313565&hl=
porbmw
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Dec 15 2017, 12:56 PM) *


Yup....it was a great set.
(un?)fortunately, I already had some significant items, ie..almost all, except the soft lines, fittings and bolts...and the hard lines were in gestation....
So
still scrounging about....
Paul beerchug.gif
mb911
Planning on 50 sets for 1st week in January..
mb911
So going back and forth on materials.. I am being told Brass as not an ideal material as the quality is sketchy .. Stainless is the next option and could get that plated in yellow zinc..

Gonna start a group buy next week for 10 sets.. Regardless of material they will look original.
wes
I’d like to get in on one of the 10 if possible thanks.
SixerJ
QUOTE(mb911 @ Dec 28 2017, 10:42 PM) *

So going back and forth on materials.. I am being told Brass as not an ideal material as the quality is sketchy .. Stainless is the next option and could get that plated in yellow zinc..

Gonna start a group buy next week for 10 sets.. Regardless of material they will look original.


Looking forward to final info on materials and end fitting details - factory metric foe me!

Any thoughts on the T pipe and flexi yet?
mb911
Stainless and metric fittings are now for sure.. Brass was too much of a liability as the quality of raw materials was to low.. The other pipes and fittings will happen.. Trying to think through a 911 t stat as an option as a retro fit to the system.
mb911
Here you go next to Glenn's factory set. Will be shipping finished products next week..Click to view attachment
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