Bobby Smith
Dec 30 2010, 04:20 PM
1973 914/4 2008 Charlotte Parade FTD Winner! 2.8 ltr. by Fat Performance. 1,650 lbs.
Well over 100 FTD’s and countless class wins. Featured in Excellence June 2009 issue and Panorama Sept 2008. Proven reliability and performance. Owned for 28 years.
Bobby Smith Virginia Beach VA 757 463-7294 porsche911dude@aol.com
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Bobby Smith
Dec 30 2010, 04:27 PM
Bobby Smith
Dec 30 2010, 04:31 PM
jamesjedi
Dec 30 2010, 08:28 PM
QUOTE(Bobby Smith @ Dec 30 2010, 02:31 PM)
One of the best, if not the best article in Excellence I have ever read. Best of luck in the sale. BUMP.
ottox914
Dec 30 2010, 08:36 PM
Why?
This seems almost like being married to the woman of your dreams, getting along for 20 yrs, and selling her off to the Russian mafia.
What could you come up with that could possibly be cooler, better, or more deadly at its chosen activity?
Bobby Smith
Jan 3 2011, 04:59 PM
QUOTE(ottox914 @ Dec 30 2010, 06:36 PM)
Why?
This seems almost like being married to the woman of your dreams, getting along for 20 yrs, and selling her off to the Russian mafia.
What could you come up with that could possibly be cooler, better, or more deadly at its chosen activity?
David, Very nicely put! After reading your comment, I had to ask myself the same question. It's just that I've done everything with the car that can be done. I truly love the car and it would tear me up to sell it but I do not seeing myself running it in the near future. I like a challenge and I've started another project. It's a street legal/auto-x combo 914 with a 3.2. It's not nearly as fast as the one posted here. If it sells.....OK. If not....still OK! I'm sure I would regret selling it in time. We'll see what happens.
Bobby Smith
Jan 16 2011, 10:37 AM
Lots of inquiries ... NO $$$$ yet!
Bobby Smith
Feb 3 2011, 12:35 PM
Bump for the fastest 914 in the country.
J P Stein
Feb 5 2011, 10:57 PM
QUOTE(Bobby Smith @ Feb 3 2011, 10:35 AM)
Bump for the fastest 914 in the country.
I'd beg to differ on that.
Bobby Smith
Feb 6 2011, 12:04 PM
QUOTE(J P Stein @ Feb 5 2011, 08:57 PM)
QUOTE(Bobby Smith @ Feb 3 2011, 10:35 AM)
Bump for the fastest 914 in the country.
I'd beg to differ on that.
Bring it on!
JP I thought you sold that rag-a-muffin!
J P Stein
Feb 13 2011, 09:50 AM
QUOTE(Bobby Smith @ Feb 6 2011, 10:04 AM)
QUOTE(J P Stein @ Feb 5 2011, 08:57 PM)
QUOTE(Bobby Smith @ Feb 3 2011, 10:35 AM)
Bump for the fastest 914 in the country.
I'd beg to differ on that.
Bring it on!
JP I thought you sold that rag-a-muffin!
Heh, heh, yes I did and when all was said & done, got more for it & all the "stuff"
than I was asking....and more than you offered. Selling "stuff" in chunks worked out well but I could have done better parting it out. The buyer sold the motor alone for 8K
then all the 914 6 conversion "stuff" for a bunch more. This nearly covered the price for an infusion of Subi HP (about 70hp & 70 ftlbs ....stock motor numbers).
In case you missed it:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=113579Of course he can no longer run in the Parade....but he has bigger fish to fry.
Good luck with your sale. So, now whatcha' gonna do?
Bobby Smith
Feb 16 2011, 04:40 PM
Wow, that's quite a conversion. Running in XP or EM?
My 2.8 E/M car listed here is done and it's still the faster auto-x car in the world
and I love the car but last year I started looking for a different kind of challenge. I wanted a street legal lethal auto-x car so I've been running a 3.2 conversion car. Greg Fordhal built this beast a while back. It's quite strong. Obviously not as fast as the E/M car but I can drive it to the events. Glad your sale worked out so well for you.
PeeGreen 914
Feb 16 2011, 05:35 PM
I remember when Greg built that car. It was WAY too much car for the guy who had it built.
Sweet car
J P Stein
Feb 19 2011, 12:03 PM
Brit put in a 2.0L ( 2.0x1.4=2.8) to get into XP with only a minimal weight gain requirement....bout 22 lbs.
Bobby Smith
Feb 23 2011, 07:04 PM
QUOTE(PeeGreen 914 @ Feb 16 2011, 03:35 PM)
I remember when Greg built that car. It was WAY too much car for the guy who had it built.
Sweet car
Not Too much for me!
I'm getting ready to fit 8 and 9x15's with 225 and 275 Hoosier A-6's.
Meanwhile bump for my 2.8 beast!
PeeGreen 914
Feb 23 2011, 07:14 PM
Yeah, it wouldn't be for a real driver but the guy who had it built wasn't a driver.
Good luck on the sale. Car looks like a lot of fun.
Bobby Smith
Mar 7 2011, 05:18 PM
FTD is calling your name and I have the car.
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Bobby Smith
Mar 21 2011, 05:45 PM
Bump
pktzygt
Mar 21 2011, 06:33 PM
The car that inspired my 914 addiction. I spoke to you at an autocross (possibly ACU4) and ended up selling my WRX and buying a 914.
Good luck with your sale. This is really an amazingly fast car!
Bobby Smith
Apr 15 2011, 02:34 PM
Auto-x season is upon us. Are you ready for your FTD? I've got the weapon!
sixaddict
Apr 16 2011, 07:13 AM
Bobby
Think I know problem with your sale....its a lose - lose deal...
If you win you were suppose to and if you don't youre an inferior wheel man !
Like your new wheels....I remember that being listed .......Michigan if I recall correctly .
TOT
Bobby Smith
Apr 21 2011, 01:15 PM
QUOTE(sixaddict @ Apr 16 2011, 05:13 AM)
Bobby
Think I know problem with your sale....its a lose - lose deal...
If you win you were suppose to and if you don't youre an inferior wheel man !
Like your new wheels....I remember that being listed .......Michigan if I recall correctly .
TOT
Well, there may be some truth to that line of thinking. However, this 914 is so fast
that someone could drive it a 8/10ths and still whoop everyone. I regularly put 3-4 secs on EVERYONE.
Yes, I bought the six from a guy in Michigan. He bought it from the fellow that had Greg F. build it. I've got receipts that total over $70K for the build.
Bobby Smith
May 5 2011, 03:47 PM
Still available!
Bobby Smith
May 25 2011, 03:46 PM
Porsche Parade in Savannah coming up soon. You still have time to buy this car
take FTD.
Bobby Smith
May 31 2011, 02:29 PM
Fast Fast
Bobby Smith
Jun 18 2011, 12:52 PM
I'm willing to entertain serious offers.
Bobby Smith
Jun 25 2011, 03:58 PM
pix
Bobby Smith
Jul 21 2011, 11:02 AM
Just fired this Baby off today. It's running strong. Still available.
rhodyguy
Aug 3 2011, 01:42 PM
i don't know what you paid for the blue car but the guy that had it built spent a hefty sum of money.
k
Bobby Smith
Aug 3 2011, 05:37 PM
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Aug 3 2011, 11:42 AM)
i don't know what you paid for the blue car but the guy that had it built spent a hefty sum of money.
k
Yes he did. Receipts show $60,000 spent at Fordahl Motorsports which did NOT include the price of the "donor car". The donor was very nice to start with. He then sold it to the guy I bought it from. That gentleman spent another $10,000 in 915 box with all of the Wevo tricks and L/S among other things. Needless to say, it's a killer car and very well built.
Meanwhile, I just can't figure out why my Black Beast has not sold. It's blindingly fast and I feel the lowered price is fair? Offers?
BajaXJ92
Aug 4 2011, 06:56 AM
Bobby,
I figured you were on this forum, but never took the time to look. I never even knew you owned this car as I didn't see it at your house last time.
I picked up a '71 recently, not sure if you've seen me around town.
Its my daily driver since I sold that Land Rover. Wouldn't mind grabbin a beer soon and picking your brain about the plans/ideas I've got for the car.
Planning on making it to this event on the 27th if you're game for a 914 caravan:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=134816-Adam
Bobby Smith
Aug 6 2011, 12:09 PM
Adam,
Give me a call and come on by anytime. Your Dad has my #. The 914/6 was probably in my other garage when you guys stopped by.
Bobby Smith
Oct 31 2011, 02:31 PM
I took my car off the market for a while but have decided to re-post it.
Thanks for looking. Most info on page 1 of this thread.
Bobby Smith
Dec 4 2011, 04:36 PM
Bump
Bobby Smith
Dec 23 2011, 06:40 PM
Santa has requested the worlds fastest auto-x for Christmas Eve. This 914 will be available again Dec. 26th. Merry Christmas!
TJB/914
Dec 23 2011, 08:00 PM
QUOTE(Bobby Smith @ Dec 23 2011, 07:40 PM)
Santa has requested the worlds fastest auto-x for Christmas Eve. This 914 will be available again Dec. 26th. Merry Christmas!
Bobby Smith,
Your 914 is beautiful, fast, reasonably priced & a magazine featured car. That being said, I can't figure out why it didn't sell.
Hope you don't mind me asking our 914-World experts, WHY????
I can only think of a few reasons.
#1 Small market for a fully sorted race car??
#2 Maybe, more buyers if it had a stock front windshield??
#3 914-World buyers are cheap??
#4 Advertise in Pano, Hemmings, or consignment with high end broker.
#5 ??
Merry Christmas & keep the faith it's a beautiful 914.
Tom (a street guy only)
Bobby Smith
Dec 24 2011, 11:34 AM
Tom, interesting observation. I think that cars like mine have a limited market. Everyone loves a 914 that has stretched the boundaries like mine but few have the ambition to get behind the wheel and exploit those boundaries. It's a hard core enthusiast car to say the least. If it does not sell, I'm considering mounting a new set of slicks and slaying a few dragons in 2012.
EdwardBlume
Dec 24 2011, 06:23 PM
Imho it's a lousy time to sell a race car. Ive got a nice competitive /6 id sell for 12k but what's the point? You can't build it for that. Nice car bad market... Wait it out.
Bobby Smith
Jan 10 2012, 04:20 PM
Autocross season is right around the corner. Are YOU ready? I've got your FTD weapon.
Bobby Smith
Jan 31 2012, 04:17 PM
Bump bump
J P Stein
Feb 18 2012, 10:19 AM
QUOTE(Bobby Smith @ Jan 31 2012, 02:17 PM)
Bump bump
Hay, Bobby.
You can claim "worlds fastest 914" as you are on the left coast.
Were you to come to the right the issue would be in doubt.
The price issue is an other item. When I was selling the shitbox I was not confident of selling it for my asking price. I sat down with a pad & pencil and parted it out
using my knowledge of the Porsche & 914 market for parts. I came up to over the asking price ($22K for the whole works) *just for the parts of the car* and still had the chassis (figuratively) still settin' there.....not to mention the truck, trailer and (as it turned out) about $4K of
tools & miscellaneous bits.
As it turned out Brit bought the car, trailer & extra wheels/tires only ($20K). He parted out about 80% (WAG) of the removable bits while doing his version of an AX car. HE MADE MONEY.
My estimates were low. He got $8k for the motor that I was figuring at $6k (bout what I had into it).
The point here is while the prices for race cars is pretty well shot, the used parts biddness is still going whole hog......plus you needed a bump.
mepstein
Feb 18 2012, 10:43 AM
QUOTE(J P Stein @ Feb 18 2012, 11:19 AM)
QUOTE(Bobby Smith @ Jan 31 2012, 02:17 PM)
Bump bump
Hay, Bobby.
You can claim "worlds fastest 914" as you are on the left coast.
Were you to come to the right the issue would be in doubt.
The price issue is an other item. When I was selling the shitbox I was not confident of selling it for my asking price. I sat down with a pad & pencil and parted it out
using my knowledge of the Porsche & 914 market for parts. I came up to over the asking price ($22K for the whole works) *just for the parts of the car* and still had the chassis (figuratively) still settin' there.....not to mention the truck, trailer and (as it turned out) about $4K of
tools & miscellaneous bits.
As it turned out Brit bought the car, trailer & extra wheels/tires only ($20K). He parted out about 80% (WAG) of the removable bits while doing his version of an AX car. HE MADE MONEY.
My estimates were low. He got $8k for the motor that I was figuring at $6k (bout what I had into it).
The point here is while the prices for race cars is pretty well shot, the used parts biddness is still going whole hog......plus you needed a bump.
On the other hand, Bobby is selling a turn key racing package. I don't know race cars but I am familiar with sales. As soon as you remove the motor, you change it from a known product to something else. Brit sold parts from a six (I know, I bought some of them) and that engine could go into a 911 or 914. I don't think a 911 guy will buy Bobby's four. Bobby is also dealing with an east coast winter. Not as bad this year as most but most east coasters hibernate this time of the year. Its always a bad time of the year to sell most any outdoor sport item except snow sports. I thought about buying his car but I really won't have weekends to myself until both my kids are away at school. I REALLY like that car!
J P Stein
Feb 19 2012, 07:18 AM
Winter time is build time. Mine spent most of it's winters on blocks. I wasn't comparimg the 2 cars, (tho mine was a turnkey set up also) just the situation.
Enjoy those parts in good health.
Bobby Smith
Feb 19 2012, 11:29 AM
"On the other hand, Bobby is selling a turn key racing package"
Yes, turn key package with HISTORY and PROVENANCE. Also a "magazine car" in Excellence June 09 issue. I've owned this car nearly 30 years. At this time there are only 56 cars that have ever taken FTD at a Porsche Parade. 1956-2011. This IS one of those cars. Some were repeat winners so actually less than 56. As far as World's Fastest 914 autocross car...well in July 2008 at Charlotte Motor Speedway I had that. This car shares history with cars driven by Alan Johnson, Bruce Jennings, Ron Mistak, Gary Walton, Greg Fordahl etc. etc. Like Dizzy Dean said, "It's not braggin if you done it".
NO WAY this car will be parted out. It's winner, a beast, it's my friend and a terror to all that have come up against it in vain. Who knows why it has not sold but something inside me is happy about that. It's in storage now (I start it regularly) and it's kinda like having a loaded gun in the dresser draw. Always ready to slay. It would be a sad day for me if someone buys it. I have actually considered bring it out of retirement but I am enjoying the new challenge of autocrossing my 914/6 3.2 at this time.
Well.... my hand is getting tired from patting myself on the back so I'll close with some photos of PCA's perpetual award for Fastest Time. Take note of some of the names. THIS is HISTORY my friends.
Bobby Smith
Mar 4 2012, 02:18 PM
Early Spring bump
Bobby Smith
Mar 18 2012, 07:07 PM
Bump
hanwai
Mar 28 2012, 07:12 AM
QUOTE(Bobby Smith @ Mar 19 2012, 09:07 AM)
Time to go! New project forces sale. Offers?
Sent email
Bobby Smith
Mar 28 2012, 04:13 PM
QUOTE(hanwai @ Mar 28 2012, 05:12 AM)
QUOTE(Bobby Smith @ Mar 19 2012, 09:07 AM)
Time to go! New project forces sale. Offers?
Sent email
e-mail answered. Let me know if you have any questions about the car.
Thanks
Bobby Smith
Apr 10 2012, 04:51 PM
I thought she was sold but back on the market.
Bobby Smith
Apr 16 2012, 11:41 AM
Having a weak moment.
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