come on quick! 50 bucks buy it now! convert from 1.7 etc

no interest blah blah

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...&category=33630

look at all the rust, how long will that thing last ???



I thought you couldn't ask for the 3% fee on eBay???? someone from the BBS once got thier ads removed for demanding the same thing????

The ones in my garage look better and I have the stock muffler. Oh I just saw the price, nevermind. Aaron you already have a set on your car. Mark

i know , im pointing them out to someone who may need them for 50 bucks.....

Like Muller ya wanna see that ad jerked in a quick second - just let eBay know.

Sorry, already have 3 sets and in better condition. Oh well

I don't understand why ebay is such a hardass on this. You can charge whatever shipping/handling fee you want but you can't say you're recovering fees.

They're such a hardass because Ebay owns Paypal and wants their extra 3% on top of the auction fees. You can always leaving shipping/handling unspecified and tack it on after the fact if they use Paypal.

That's what I would do.

In CA. You can't charge more for something just because someone uses a credit card. I can't when I sell a Motorcycle or Quad, It is just part of the expense to do business.

It doesn't even matter if you specify shipping and handling fees. Haven't you seen people selling things for $.99 with $15 shipping and handling? They do it to avoid end of auction ebay fees.

but PayPal considers themselves a law unto their own.

they claim they are not a bank, they claim they're not a lot of things.
they are answerable and responsible to no one.

you either play by their rules (the user agreement you must accept) or you don't play.

since you 'voluntarily' accept their terms and conditions, you are bound by them.

i don't think they could get away with half the stuff they do (especially in CA) if anyone were to seriously press the case, but i don't know what it'd take to initiate such an action. i think their attitude and policies suck on many levels, but there is not a lot of recourse and few alternatives...

they are the de facto standard, and i suspect it'll take something at the federal level to get them to change...

The ornamentals at the computer shows try the same thing. 3% added if you use a credit card, none if cash. I tell the to go themselves.

If they are running that close to the line that they need to recover the 3%, they don't need to be in business.

Feel the same way about eBay and PayPal - you don't wanna play - don't buy or sell - used the classifieds on the boards that exist. You may have a hard time finding a board for your product though - got any widgets? Ebay is advertising - cheap too! - buy ads in all the papers of the world to sell your item and see what it costs. PayPal is a service and services charge for what they do, except for Brad.

In general, credit card companies make vendors sign an agreement that they will not try to pass on the merchant discount when their customers try to use their cards. They see this as a potential deterent to people using plastic.

Th smaller the vendor, or the further away from North America you get, the more you see credit card fee add-ons.

When I was in Peru this past May, any hotel we stayed in would have added 15% to the bill if we used our visa card. Makes it a bit unnerving, having to carry a lot of cash in an unknown country/neighbourhood, but to pay an extra 15% is insane.

Paypal just wants people to use their service so they can make their 3%, best way to not lose this is, as stated, build it into S&H later on.

When I use to take CC/DC's for my shop, I think I was 1.6% for DC's and 1.25% for credit cards? Then there was a flat % of total funds run through which brought everything up to just about 3%. I turned everything in and just take cash or checks now. Too much of a pain in the ass. 100% of my customers are face to face so writting a check is not an issue.

CC's suck. :finger2: