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Maltese Falcon
You would think that with all that ordinance they came to Boyd's with , there was an Osama sighting in the neighborhood ar15.gif Talk about EZ money, 1 bounty on that mofo far outdoes the tax revenue on all those Barret Jackson buckets !
While the posse is in session...they should go check the registration on Herr gubernators Pinzgauer -- I 've seen it street driven locally at a car show in L.A.
Hawktel
I'm not a Fan of bluebear or that show, I commonly watch it with the sound off.

I'll back you up Arron. Infact if I ever meet him, I'm certain Bluebear will be nice and polite.
Elliot_Cannon
QUOTE(Brett W @ Oct 20 2004, 09:35 PM)
Cops suck, again my point is made. They have nothing better to do than harass some what decent people. IN the meantime some illegal was crossing the border to vote or shoot out a kid, some drug deal was giong down, some kiddie porn was trading hands, etc. All this so some pigs and their boss can go out and harass people.

Who is this asshole that says cops suck?? Cops are like lawyers. Everyone hates them right up until the time they really need one. The cops don't pass these laws moron. They are passed by polititions who are out to make a name for themselves so they can be elected to higher office. Cops don't enact legislation. They are given the unenviable job of enforcing the laws that bonehead polititions pass. The cop is the guy who will pull your dumb ass out of a burning vehicle. A lawyer is the guy who will sue the car company for providing a vehicle that will carry a flamable liquid. The politition is the guy who will pass a law to prohibit a carrying of flamable liquids in a moving vehicle to save the public from themselves.
And for you whiners out there that are fed up with California. The highways flow in both directions. The airports and train stations have outbound trips as well as inbound. If you don't like it here, do something about it or get the fu** out. Crying about it on this web (of all places) can only show your ignorance and accomplish nothing.
Now, anybody got any questions about their car that we can help you with?
Cheers, Elliot
Hawktel
Cops are like lawyers. Everyone hates them right up until the time they really need one.
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I'm pretty anti cop.

I've never had one find whats been stolen from me. I've never had one Give me first aid, they always wait for the Paramedic. I've never had one be there to stop the dude kicking my ass.

I have had a few let me off with a warning. Whupty doo.

Cops should have 1 bullet for their gun. Cops should be checked over by a shrink every 6 months, and audited every year to find any excess monitary evidence that disappears.
bob91403
QUOTE(dmenche914 @ Oct 20 2004, 07:07 PM)
Mexico want california???? Hell they have invaded it, and we have done nothing to stop it. Get knocked up in Mexico, sneak acroos the boarder, show up in a L.A. emergency room, I get to pay for the birth at the hospital, and the little kid is an instant US citizen cause he/she is born on US soil, all this on my dime! I am also forced to educate the illegal, cannot turn them down.

Even in North California, most every thing now is in Mexican. In the last several years most products I buy have english, and mexican writting, Food packages, paint, cleaners, anything you buy with instructions UGH!!! The print is so small it is now hard to read, it is not effiecent, and is wasteful to have more than one language in public life. They want ballots, and road signs in mexican now. They want to be granted drivers licence, collect social security, and we just look the other way. They are even legal to vote in some local elections, yeah, illegals voting.
The mexican prez wants an open boarder, and has gotten envolved heavy in california politics. He wants to have mexican polling places in California so mexicans living here can vote in mexican election, and he is pressing for more concessions. We no longer have a boarder, it is a joke.
about half the violent prisoners in some california jails are mexican citizens. I pay to house them

i say round them all up (from any nation) and send all the illegals home. I am ok with controlled legal boarder crossing, I do not want my society destroyed, i have no problem with mexican society, or most other peaceful societies, however our societies are different, and mine is being diluted. note that Americans in mexico have very little rights, cannot own land, and pretty much must learn mexican in order to communicate. One language is the very important so a cohesive society, we have lost that, the illegals tax out states resources, how many citizens are harmed when several emergency rooms had to shut down, because of the un-reimbuirsed illegal alien service, which the state mandates thay must provide.

it is a big problem, and it will have negitive effects for decades to come. it is ruining our nation, but i guess thats what we want (or at least the politicians, as public opinion polls indicate most citizens want boarder enforcement). too bad

No problem with mexicans as a people I have mexican freinds that are legal, or citizens, speaking mexican in mexico is no problem , but I resent they are making such big, and bad changes, and doing it illegally.

i go to jail if i illegally take someones $100 property, it is called theft. An illegal sneaks into my nation, seeks medical care, and education, all with thousands of my hard earned tax dollars, and instead of thowing them in jail, or deporting them, the person that complains (Me!) is labled not politically correct, or racist or some other crap. Hell it is bad to defend ones own culture these days, as long as the culture you are defending is American. we are warped. History repeats, Neo fiddled while rome burned!

Read your history book. California was part of Mexico until the United States invaded California In 1846 after we declared war on Mexico under the guise of "Manifest Destiny" (talk about Hitleresk). Same thing this country did to the native americans, the U.S. took California, Texas, New Mexico(and Arizona) from Mexico because, at the time, the thinking was might made right. The war ended in 1848 with the signing of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. The U.S. paid Mexico 15mil. Under Article 1 - There shall be firm and universal peace between the United States of America and the Mexican Republic, and between their respective countries, territories, cities, towns, and people, without exception of places or persons. If you don't want illegal aliens, go wash dishes, or pick grapes, or one of the other shit jobs nobody here wants. I agree that just because someone is born here that shouldn't make them citizens. Everywhere else in the world citizenship is based on the citizenship of your parents. That's how it should be here. They should only have LEGAL aliens with work visas. They contribute, they pay taxes, if they break the law they get deported and denied re-entry. Was your great great grandfather born here? Damn near all of us are illegal aliens.
bob91403
QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Oct 21 2004, 12:18 AM)
QUOTE(Brett W @ Oct 20 2004, 09:35 PM)
Cops suck, again my point is made.  They have nothing better to do than harass some what decent people.  IN the meantime some illegal was crossing the border to vote or shoot out a kid, some drug deal was giong down, some kiddie porn was trading hands, etc.  All this so some pigs and their boss can go out and harass people.

Who is this asshole that says cops suck?? Cops are like lawyers. Everyone hates them right up until the time they really need one. The cops don't pass these laws moron. They are passed by polititions who are out to make a name for themselves so they can be elected to higher office. Cops don't enact legislation. They are given the unenviable job of enforcing the laws that bonehead polititions pass. The cop is the guy who will pull your dumb ass out of a burning vehicle. A lawyer is the guy who will sue the car company for providing a vehicle that will carry a flamable liquid. The politition is the guy who will pass a law to prohibit a carrying of flamable liquids in a moving vehicle to save the public from themselves.
And for you whiners out there that are fed up with California. The highways flow in both directions. The airports and train stations have outbound trips as well as inbound. If you don't like it here, do something about it or get the fu** out. Crying about it on this web (of all places) can only show your ignorance and accomplish nothing.
Now, anybody got any questions about their car that we can help you with?
Cheers, Elliot

agree.gif Brett's a moron. We should all grab our guns, get in our teeners, drive to Washington, and overthrow the giant intrusive beast this government has become. It's our right to do so. You know the first thing they do after a revolution. They line up all the lawyers and politicians and shoot them. Instant downsizing and redistribution of the wealth. We'd all be better off. You ready Elliot? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Brett W
Bob and the other guy pissoff.gif

I am fed up with lazy, corrupt and useless members of law enforcement. I assure you they are not as necessary as people would like to think. Give me a gun and a responsible citizen and we can maintain law and order without a bunch of help. Cops harass people
for the hell of it. Yeah there are some people that need to be locked up, so lock them up. I realize this is a gross oversimplification but this is how it is. Bring on the donuts.

Politicians suck as well. They just take care of those who take care of them. They don't give a damn about us.
Rusty
So... to bring this back on topic to Porsches...

Do you think this crackdown will affect Beck and other builders of the 550 Spider replicas? After all, I know that the cars (at least some of them) get titled as a 195x Porsche.

-Rusty smoke.gif
seanery
yes, rusty, I bet it will!
Joe Bob
Yup....there are only 500 "licenses" allowed a year for kit cars. Seems like there are more and more NEW hot rods out there...

Anybody check out the new tank powered car Leno had built....registered in OREGON....
Root_Werks
QUOTE(Lawrence @ Oct 21 2004, 05:22 AM)
So... to bring this back on topic to Porsches...

Do you think this crackdown will affect Beck and other builders of the 550 Spider replicas? After all, I know that the cars (at least some of them) get titled as a 195x Porsche.

-Rusty smoke.gif

There is a dealer here in WA that sells "New" 550's and 356's (Intermachanica). Really nice cars, but yeah, I bet they will also undergo scrutiny from the law as the years go on. sad.gif
Rhodes71/914
A red Porsche and a red american sedan are hurling down the highway both going much faster than the speed limit. Who gets pulled over - the Porsche of course.

I myself do not like cops, never have never will. I think a lot of cops have the same tendencies as criminals they just happened to get on the right side of the law.

There ya go Porsche content and my opinion. Flame me if you want I can take it. biggrin.gif
rhodyguy
i agree with craig. a scratch bit hot rod, from vendors should be expected to meet the same criteria as a 2005. a brand new, tube frame 550 shouldn't be exempt. the only escape should be a body mounted on a pan from a vw. no speed, no ticket. 2 cars, side by side, over the limit, equals a comparing speed citation in wa, and it's a big one. both cars get pulled over.

kevin
dmenche914
Same criteria as a 2005 car??? So Becks should have airbag, side curtain air bag, on board diagnostic computer, modern bumpers, and all the other required stuff? That would pretty much make a Beck 550 into a Boxster with all the added weight, and thus kill the kit car industry. Maybe the government out to stay away.

As far as mexico, yeah they had some land here, and couldn't keep it. What we have to ask is are we intent on keeping it?
boxstr
Corvettes have been around for ...how long know. They have been able to adapt. My point is that a kit car doe's not belong in the same class when being judged, for what ever reason, as a factory built steel body car doe's.

I think the Beck 550 is one of the nicest kit cars out there. Check the 550 Spyder websites. You can get into some big dollars on the mods that you can do to those cars. Just because it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck doesn't mean it is a duck, its a Beck.
CCLINFIBERGLASSRESIN
andys
QUOTE(Dave Bell @ Oct 20 2004, 04:14 PM)
Follow the money or follow the power

It might be the state, it is a crappy law for collectors that put so few miles on the road, but hey, when the state is in a pinch they will try to get money any where... even if they have to harass car collectors.

or... It might be some politician or DA or someone trying to make a name for himself so he can go up a rung on his political ladder... why else would you pick high profile person to go after first.

- Dave... just thinking out loud

The two guys from Santa Clarita agree smile.gif

It's the money or political gain or both. If the state finds something to regulate, it generates funds. What better hero would there be than one that finds yet another revenue stream to help fill the coffers.

My wife is from Mexico (her family is in National politics), and I get to debate all sorts of California/Mexico related politics. Got to tip-toe through discussions in order to stay happily (?) married wacko.gif She chuckles and says we're just slowly taking back what we lost in a phoney war.......Yes dear!

Andy
MattR
I worked on a Beck's 356 speedster and it was a pile of crap. Things were hacked together, it had a toyota plastic shift knob, the engine was toast from the factory, etc. It did have a purdy color though.
serge914
QUOTE(dmenche914 @ Oct 20 2004, 06:54 PM)
The idea was for the USA to buy Canada!  We would pay every Canadian a million bucks, they would still live in their homes, and own their own land, but the nation would be ours.  The other important requirment was that the Canadian all stop working (why work with a million bucks?, and that is 1980 circa million bucks)  Then all the un-employed Americans would move up to Canada, and take the jobs the Canadians left, thus assuring products and services for the millionaire Canadians, and solve our un-employment problem, all at once.

Only one problem with that : all those Canadians millionnaires would move to California or Florida for the winter and you would be stuck with the snow. biggrin.gif
SGB
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Hooray for the diversity of our various opinions!
Yeah, the USA, States, and individual counties, cities, or towns have some lopsided regulations that favor some individuals at the expense of others.
Yeah, 914 owners are individualists (duh!) who hate to see individuality compromised for the rest of society.
Yeah, if I could I would live on an island where only I made the rules.

Oh yeah.
I can't afford an island.
I can't build my own highways, electrical systems, emergency responders, etc.

I'm willing to trade a few of my prefered opinions for the certainty that the phone will work and the cops will come when (if) I ever need 'em for a real emergency.

I would rather have no government, but that would last about 30 minutes before....

Try living in some other parts of the world. When I lived overseas, I decided I had to move back to the crazy USA because it was even crazier everywhere else.
Maltese Falcon
It could be worse...in Hawaii if you own a Meyers manx or other dune buggie (kit car), you can't register it for legal street use. They may get to take it to a car show for the day, or drive it on private property . It's proll'y one of the best suited vehicles for the Islands too aktion035.gif
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MattR
Have you seen 50 First Dates with Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore? It took place in Hawaii, her car was a manx in the film and it looked like they drove it on the street.
Mueller
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her car was a manx in the film and it looked like they drove it on the street.


I thought it was a "VW Thing"?????
wheelo
:finger2: don't like-it .... leave.... there are 49 other states available.... In time you will experience these same problems.... where ever you go ..... overpopulation (Sucks)... a top-heavy inefficient government .... vote for change... make a difference... boycott MEGA stores... Drive old cars... Let Freedom Ring...etc. etc.

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bob91403
QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Oct 21 2004, 10:33 PM)
It could be worse...in Hawaii if you own a Meyers manx or other dune buggie (kit car), you can't register it for legal street use. They may get to take it to a car show for the day, or drive it on private property . It's proll'y one of the best suited vehicles for the Islands too aktion035.gif
Politics agree.gif

Wait until the VW concept T comes out. Then Hawaii will have their Manx whether they like it or not.
bob91403
From VW California design.
dflesburg
What do you expect from a state that thinks its

" great to be G-Hey! "

and its cool to drive rice!
FriarJohn
I'm really disappointed that the guy from Montana didn't "represent" and give Bluebear a good, old-fashioned Montana beatdown. He just sat there and whined like a little bitch until they fired him.
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That show's becoming a bigger train wreck than American Chopper.
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