I never had as much fun with a four as i do my turbo 6, and i had a 2.9 T4 that lasted 5,000 before it blew.
The Turbo 3.1 six built based on a 935 engine bore and stroke was my solution....

Thanks again man...I have a 1975 911S with a 2.7...

Sorry ...

Had a ride in Tomeric's 3.0 big port SC motor'd 914 and WOW.

It is really addictive and really dangerous to ones license, etc.

So, the real question is...

"Is is more fun to go fast in a slow car than slow in a fast car?"

The more power you have the less you can get close to the limits of the car on the street. Modern Porsches are that way, there is no way to get close to the limits on the street without endangering your license and others.

Now, Tomeric's car is a monster on the track where he can exploit 100% of its potential.

I doubt he'd ever go back to a 4.

What does it feel like? If a 4 puts a smile on your face. Increace that feeling by 30%. The factory knew it when they put a 2.2 S motor in 914114. They knew that the 914 with the S motors would be in direct compition with the 911 because it would be more fun. Isn't that what sports cars are all about, fun.
The 2.7 S motor is the engine that give you the most pep in the cars.
G-forces, adrenalin= smiles. A 6 just gives you 30% more.

I don't know if I have ever heard of a report of someone that did a SIX conversion and regretted it.

Here's a vid of us checking the timing on the new motor ( 2.6 short stroke ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AslzY6KrXAM...LwcFR9DOVbWz8ng


KT

A read a great quote on here a while back. You don't own a 6, it owns you.

Joe I think your right ..I will drive my 2.0 only on the street...so..smile's away.....

Trekkor...that sound sick man......O in a good way

Never heard of a 2.6 short stroke, what's it based on? Sure sounds nice!

I can't speak for a /6 in the 914, but my 930 is a rocket ship.

It's a turbocharged 3.3L /6 rated at 280 HP and when the turbo kicks the pull, er, push is amazing. The 930 is a bigger, heavier car than the 914 and a fat ass-end.

I would love to put a /6 in the 914.

Turbo's are great fun I had an 84 euro, Dont lift... My Son was 10 and it was Dad can we go Turbo ??

Hi,
take a little ride...
It`s a 2.0 S, about 185 HP. it makes a lot fun, because of less weight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWQPzcw1oac

A friend got a 2.0 / 4. It is also very fast and funny. But if you have the sound of a six in the back - you don`t even wanna miss it...

Regards

Harald

Doesn't take much tweaking to get 400hp out of your 930.

i am around the 400hp output in the 914 and lifted the front wheels shifting from 2nd and 3rd once. Thats push!

Thanks a monster!

Very cool vid,

oldschool,

sell me your -4 and get another car to drop a 3.2 into it..

I have 2 1.7 engines sitting in my garage...

I drive the race car on the street tooo.

Im sorry

I'm not...there Good.

back to back makes a V8 3.4 there you goooooooo....

It's a 2.7 big bore (would have been 2.8 ) with a 914-6 crankshaft.

Very fast revving!


KT

First time at VIR. 3.0 with MegaSquirt on street tires. I need some stickier tires.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN9j_ELQ_iQ

To each his own... I stress out if my car cannot get to freeway speed by the end of the on ramp. In so cal the freeways are packed and everyone is doing 80 mph. A stock four banger even a two liter is no longer enough for me.

Your right Steve To each his own.
went out with some cool folks to GMR...Man I really need some D.E...but was very happy with my 2.0.
Click to view attachmentOne of the car's that was part of the crew....

To answer the original post...remember feeling your first pair of breasts?

That's it.

I am usually out of gears by the time i hit the highway from the on ramp....

Jaime, Hi - we haven't spoke for some time. You may recall that we met about two years ago when you gave me a front spare tire cover board for my 914 six conversion project I had recently acquired. I thought that was very cool of you since you didn't charge me for it.

My project has been sitting for over six months now although it is nearly complete. I have done an extremely large amount of work to the car since I have purchased it, with the plan of converting it from a beautiful four-cylinder car to an extremely trick six-cylinder car.

The guy from whom I bought the car had done a complete ground-up restoration in 1998. The car has sat from that time to the present in a garage on Jack stands.

In reading your posting I somehow, strangely, begin thinking about actually selling my car. I can't believe I'm actually typing this but apparently something inside me must think this is the appropriate thing to do.

Are you serious about wanting a six-cylinder car? If so, I'll make you an offer that you can't refuse on a very special car. The following is a description I put together:

EXCELLENT CONDITION - 914-6 GT metal flared replica built from a 74 2.0. VIN: 4742916514, manufactured 04/74. Color: L80E Light Ivory - 2 minor defects - otherwise beautiful. See video link.

This is the car the day got it:



This car underwent a complete restoration in 1998 and has been stored in a garage since. This car was taken down to the last bolt literally. All hardware that was removed and kept was cadmium plated. The complete suspension, wiper arms, gas tank, roll bar and other parts are powder coated.

Pretty much all of the parts are new. I have a huge pack of receipts that come with the car. I’ll never get back what I paid into it but I don’t expect to.

Body: Completely stripped and done correctly by Eurotech Bodywerks in Totem Lake Washington. They are a much respected and sought after body shop for fine autos. NO expense was spared and the cost was what you would expect from a job like they did. The interior and trunk areas were done as well. Still have receipts. The metal flares are genuine Porsche factory Porsche 914-GT part numbers.

The battery tray was replaced with repro parts and a small bit of rust was taken care of before the paint was applied.

Rear bumper was completely straightened (tit holes welded) then painted gloss black and now looks awesome.

Front bumper and valance are 916 replica (fiberglass) to allow air to reach front cooler. The front bumper has been fitted to allow for the completely reconditioned fog lamps with powder coated backs, new lenses and new black grills.



Engine: There isn’t one currently installed - but the car is set up for, and includes, a 1979 3.0 (big port) flat six. The engine came from Patrick Motorsports in Arizona and has been checked, re-sealed, turbo cam chain tensioner upgrade, plus turbo valve covers are installed (machined to clear the suspension arms and powder coated).





A complete set of 914-6 conversion sheet metal has been painted and installed. The fan has been powder coated and a new alternator installed while it was apart.



1 5/8 inch headers (from Marty at MSDS) have been professionally ceramic coated.

Weber 40 IDA-3C carbs with manifolds were sourced then completely gone through by Paul Abbott at Performance Oriented. Carbs have been bench run, jetted and synched and are installed and ready to run. New phenolic spacers have been installed. All linkage has been cadmium plated.



Distributor was rebuilt and re-curved by Jerry Woods specifically for this configuration, utilizing a new distributor cap.

A new Rich Johnson 6 cylinder engine conversion mount has been welded in, seam sealed and primered.

Clutch: Kennedy Engineering Stage II conversion kit including flywheel, pressure plate, clutch disk and throw out bearing are new in box (not installed). This allows you to use stock 901 side shifter.

Front cooler/cooling system: A Mazda RX-7 cooler has been flushed, inspected and modified with AN -12 fittings and fitted to a custom mount using thermostatically controlled dual electric fans. Custom braided AN -12 hydraulic lines have been fabricated and extend from front cooler to rear Mocal thermosat and to rear oil tank.





Engine oil cooler has been modified with AN fittings and output is redirected for use in a 914.

Has brand new Patrick Motorsports oil tank and original 914-6 filler and oil filter console hardware.



Electrical and ignition: Complete new rear wiring harness custom made by Perry Kiel at 914 Network (amazing work), eliminates relay board entirely. Set up for MSD ignition box.

New MSD-6AL ignition box and Blaster coil - both in boxes. New Magnecor (the best) ignition wires.

Includes Optima gel 34R battery.

Fuel system: Fuel tank was removed, stripped, internally coated and exterior powder coated gloss black. New fuel sender.

Holley HP 125 fuel pump and 10 micron external fuel filter have been mounted in front trunk (next to collapsible 911 spare). Holley adjustable fuel regulator in mounted in engine compartment. The entire car has been plumbed in aluminum fuel line with AN -6 fuel fittings.





Transmission: 5 speed standard ratios and it was re-built with about 1,000 miles currently on it. Installed 914-6 mid plate with 914-6 throttle linkage included. Was recently taken apart, examined and re-sealed. The shift rod was powder coated black, all side shifter parts were replaced, and all shifter bushings are new.

Rear Suspension and brakes: The rear suspension was completely removed and bead blasted. The arms were strengthened with the Automotion kit which was welded on, and the sway bar attachment arms were also welded. The arms were prepped like body work then they were powder coated black. New poly-graphite bushings and bearings were installed. Koni shocks with adjustable preload installed.

The rear brakes are 914 with braided lines, 911 cross-drilled rotors attached to machined and hardened 914-6 half shaft adapters.

Front Suspension and brakes: The front suspension assembly was completely disassembled and bead blasted before being powder coated. The sway bar attachment points were welded to the arms then the arms, mount, steering rack and cross tube were powder coated and rebuilt with new poly graphite bushings, bearing, seals. 911 SC struts with adjustable perches, Koni shocks, turbo tie rods, ball joints have been installed. The torsion bars are stock size.

The front brakes are 911 SC and the pads are Padgid RS-4 with stainless steel braided brake lines.

Sway bars are 22mm with improved front adapters and are adjustable for balancing or preloading installed using poly graphite bushings.

Interior and trunks: completely prepped and repainted. All trunk hardware and plastic was replaced with new or cadmium plated original parts. A roll bar was designed for this car, built and powder coated red and fitted to the car using bolts so it can be removed to access the rear panel.

A 911 (6 cylinder) tach was installed in the stock location. All gauges have been rebuilt to early specs, with chrome button on needles, by North Hollywood Speedometer. Also has custom quad gauge from New Vintage gauges with combination amps, oil pressure, fuel level and oil temperature.



A short shift kit has been installed, sound proofing was melted and formed into place with heat guns inside the doors (resulting in a nice door slam not tinny - but 911 like). Sound proofing was also installed on the floor pans, foot well, and sills. Carpet has been removed but includes a new set of Porsche crest embossed mats. A MOMO leather steering wheel is installed. The pedal cluster was removed bread blasted powder coated, new silicon brass bushings, springs and pedal pads installed.

Stock handbrake was removed (to accommodate 911 seats) and a 911 center handbrake has been mounted with custom cables fabricated to operate stock 914 rear parking brake/calipers.

New Engman fuse panel using new-style fuses (fits stock location) has been purchased, not installed.

Includes two new Engman driver's and passenger side aluminum foot boards.

Exterior: Custom fitted adjustable electric (heated) 944 mirrors have been color matched to car. A switch for selecting the mirror you want to adjust and new basket weave vinyl are on the dash. A 911 mirror adjustment switch is located on the driver’s door armrest in a convenient location.

A Sony CD/FM radio is installed with a Hirschman electric flat black antenna. A 75 watt stereo power amp is installed under the dash. New knobs where needed are used. The dash panel has a slight crack that can be fixed by a competent vinyl repair service or it can be replaced.

Car originally had Sparco PRO 2000 seats, which have since been swapped for 1984 911 Carrera power leather seats. Includes TRW 5 point harnesses with TRW pads that are fine for use on the street.

All heater cables and switches were overhauled and adjusted and everything works - however the engine has headers and no heat exchangers.

Electric window washer motor operated via a mini switch in the turn signal arm in place of the pneumatic one that comes with the car.

Doors: The doors were removed from the car stripped and painted, sound deadening material was molded in place, the window mechanisms were cleaned and lubricated, the doors were cut for speakers, and a thick Mylar film was adhered to the interior side of the doors for moisture protection, Custom 911 style door panels are in place and the backs have been waterproofed. The doors close with authority and a thud, not like a typical 914 door slam. All hardware was restored and plated or replaced as required.



Headlights: Were completely restored including bushings where needed. The motors were checked, contacts cleaned, all mechanisms were cad plated and assembled with new bushings where needed. Hella Z-beam lights with up-rated blubs installed (higher wattage). Everything adjusted and assemblies are working fine.

Wheels and tires: The wheels are (real) Fuchs 7 & 8 x 16” and flawless (same as on 1979 930 Turbo Carrera). Polished lips with black centers, painted crest hubs with locks, locking wheel nuts The tires are hardly used Bridgestone SO-1’s.

The car needs the following:

Install engine, flywheel, pressure plate, clutch transmission. (All included)

Finish front oil cooler installation (fabricate cooler shroud, complete wiring for electric fans, connect braided lines).

Finish interior wiring (reconfigure dash gauge wiring for combo quad gauge, install new fuse panel, run power to electric seats, install new engine harness, wire in MSD box, wire in cooler fans, wire in fuel pump)

Paint front fiberglass bumper black.

Install new carpet

Complete and show quality other than that.

Here is a link to a walk around video of the car at the time I bought it. As you can see, the rear bumper is missing and the car still has the Sparco seats installed:

video of car

So to summarize, as you can imagine, there has been well over $35,000 spent on this car getting it to its present stage. I have receipts for the majority of those costs.

If you are truly interested in such a project, and would promise me that you would complete it appropriately, I would let you have it for $22,000.

If this is something you might be interested in please PM me and we can talk further.

Rob

I really like that white car!!

WOW!!


KT

Wow....yeah man..did't we meet in Pasadena.

Pasadena it was. So, are you serious about a 6?

Yeah ...not ready to pull the trigger. Nice ride man.
Plus I'm having a bunch of fun with the 2.0
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Driving flat out at Laguna, from turn 5 through 6 in a 2.7 6 (race car, aka The Beast) was something that you will never forget. Of course the car handled like nothing else I have ever driven on the track, but the sound of those TB's, pumping air at 7,000 rpm, right behind your head was magnificent.