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KaptKaos
http://flatsixes.com/cars/porsche-prototyp...6-911-roadster/

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Pretty cool!
scotty b
"The end result seemed something absolutely spectacular, with the new body looking much more fetching than anything that had come out of Porsche" screwy.gif


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damesandhotrods
I know it’s sacrilegious to speak ill of Bertone in many circles, but it looks too much like a large Fiat 850 Spyder.
relentless
Those seats...
blitZ
The front end and windshield reminds me of the Ferrari Daytona Spyder. Nice looking car, not very Porschey.
Drums66
....Kind of a Ghetto-Fari with a P-car crest? idea.gif
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billh1963
QUOTE(damesandhotrods @ Feb 17 2013, 09:14 PM) *

I know it’s sacrilegious to speak ill of Bertone in many circles, but it looks too much like a large Fiat 850 Spyder.


Looks very Maserati Like to me....along the lines of a Ghibli
Jon H.
I like it.
Jgilliam914
I see Jensen Interceptor
FourBlades

Its the Robin Mobile, the smaller brother of the Bat Mobile.

John
Slink
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ISO GRIFO had a prototype spyder that never made it to production in 1964.
Very similar.Click to view attachment
Cap'n Krusty
I've worked on that car! The comments on the site are incomplete, as it once belonged to a guy named Jeff Cannon who lived in the South Bay area of LA County, IIRC. It was still the original color as late as 1975 or 1976.

The Cap'n
Drums66
QUOTE(Jgilliam914 @ Feb 18 2013, 05:55 AM) *

I see Jensen Interceptor


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johannes
QUOTE(damesandhotrods @ Feb 17 2013, 06:14 PM) *

I know it’s sacrilegious to speak ill of Bertone in many circles, but it looks too much like a large Fiat 850 Spyder.

You are right. Way too much front and rear overhang

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euro911
QUOTE(johannes @ Feb 19 2013, 04:31 AM) *
QUOTE(damesandhotrods @ Feb 17 2013, 06:14 PM) *
I know it’s sacrilegious to speak ill of Bertone in many circles, but it looks too much like a large Fiat 850 Spyder.

You are right. Way too much front and rear overhang
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scotty b
QUOTE(euro911 @ Feb 22 2013, 08:04 PM) *

QUOTE(johannes @ Feb 19 2013, 04:31 AM) *
QUOTE(damesandhotrods @ Feb 17 2013, 06:14 PM) *
I know it’s sacrilegious to speak ill of Bertone in many circles, but it looks too much like a large Fiat 850 Spyder.

You are right. Way too much front and rear overhang
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I disagree somewhat. Keep the front as is and less on the rear, lower it, and your damn close to a Daytona Spyder. One of my favorite F cars wub.gif
euro911
It gotta Big Butt bootyshake.gif

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Sneezy
Looks like an abortion on your breakfast plate.
ScoopLV
QUOTE(scotty b @ Feb 17 2013, 05:03 PM) *

"The end result seemed something absolutely spectacular, with the new body looking much more fetching than anything that had come out of Porsche" screwy.gif


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"Against competition from Jaguar and the spectacular Lamborghini Miura, the Bertone special was seen as the most compelling."


And this sentence tells me that Bertone had someone drop by and give the writer a hummer for writing this love letter of an article.
veekry9
Yeah it's a beauty.
1966.
No doubt the time devoted to the Porsche prototype
was somewhat less than the 850 Spider.
They were cute then and remain so.Tiny fuel efficient
almost microcar dimensions.The concept has been emulated
since that time.

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Designers Dreams made real.

I don't suppose there is a "School of Automotive Design"
grad here on this site.

I am aware that there are some talented workers,that
have applied their skills and demonstrated great
perseverance.
messix
forget that there's a Porsche six in there and remember that it was built almost fifty years ago!!!!

I like it!
dlkawashima
To me the shape calls for either a mid-engine, or probably even better, a front engine layout.
Here's a little photochop of how it might look as a mid-engine, with the wheelbase stretched out to accommodate the engine in the middle ...

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carr914
Well, I like the wheels, the rest barf.gif
veekry9
Yeah the wheels appear to be a 5 stud version
of our familiar gasburners.
Campagnalo?
JmuRiz
They are gas-burners...the good ones that were optional on the 914/6.
veekry9
QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Oct 23 2013, 09:51 AM) *

They are gas-burners...the good ones that were optional on the 914/6.


Interesting that they used a 4yr-old design first used on the one-off show car.
Latest ebay rate for the wheels?
Where in the world are these wheels available?
Rotary'14
QUOTE(veekry9 @ Oct 23 2013, 01:11 PM) *

QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Oct 23 2013, 09:51 AM) *

They are gas-burners...the good ones that were optional on the 914/6.


Interesting that they used a 4yr-old design first used on the one-off show car.
Latest ebay rate for the wheels?
Where in the world are these wheels available?

It looks like there's a pristine set here,,,
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1534407

veekry9
QUOTE(Rotary'14 @ Oct 23 2013, 04:23 PM) *

QUOTE(veekry9 @ Oct 23 2013, 01:11 PM) *

QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Oct 23 2013, 09:51 AM) *

They are gas-burners...the good ones that were optional on the 914/6.


Interesting that they used a 4yr-old design first used on the one-off show car.
Latest ebay rate for the wheels?
Where in the world are these wheels available?

It looks like there's a pristine set here,,,
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1534407


Shipping by air from NZ?
You or I would really have to desire that look.
Somewhere here I linked to a YT of the 80's
Isdera which had a similar looking wheelset.
More of a MB look.Still very nice.
SirAndy
QUOTE(KaptKaos @ Feb 17 2013, 05:58 PM) *
Pretty cool!

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Dave_Darling
QUOTE(veekry9 @ Oct 23 2013, 01:11 PM) *

Latest ebay rate for the wheels?
Where in the world are these wheels available?


Search on "mahle gas burner wheels" and you'll find them. The real ones are pretty spendy--they're the lightest street wheels ever put on any Porsche, to my knowledge. They were only made in 5.5x15, and are a magnesium alloy.

The Bug guys like them; the 5x130mm pattern fits many of the 5-lug Bugs. They like to paint the flat part black and polish the raised bits.

There are replicas available now (much heavier, made out of aluminum, quality is unknown) for less than the real thing. Chances are decent that the ones on The Samba are the repops.

--DD
Cap'n Krusty
Uhhhhhhh, Dave? There aren't any VWs that use a 5x130 bolt pattern. Not bugs, which used the 5 bolt pattern like the early 356 before they went to the same 4x130 lug pattern as the 914. Not Busses/Vanagons, either. Late model 5 bolt cars are 5x100.

The nickname "gas burner" started with the wheels being discussed here. They bear a pretty good resemblance to a burner on some gas ranges. The Mahle 4 bolt wheels picked up the term later on.

The Cap'n
zambezi
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Oct 23 2013, 05:39 PM) *

Uhhhhhhh, Dave? There aren't any VWs that use a 5x130 bolt pattern. Not bugs, which used the 5 bolt pattern like the early 356 before they went to the same 4x130 lug pattern as the 914. Not Busses/Vanagons, either. Late model 5 bolt cars are 5x100.



The Cap'n


True, but they/we like to convert to the Porsche pattern just as much at the 914 crowd. I converted my fastback to 5 lug Porsche pattern with Fuchs over 20 years ago (still have it).
Dave_Darling
Shoot, I thought one of the two five-lug patterns they used was 5x130.

I learned something new today!

--DD
Cap'n Krusty
Actually, I was a bit off in my statement. The Touareg, the smart and thrifty person's Cayenne, uses the 5x130 Porsche bolt pattern. But who cares about trucks? Old Buicks are close to 5x130, too. The Bus/Vanagon uses 5x112.

The Cap'n
ruby914
QUOTE(Jgilliam914 @ Feb 18 2013, 06:55 AM) *

I see Jensen Interceptor

I saw jensen healey
veekry9
Marcello Gandini
A young designer at Bertone.

Alfa Romeo Montreal

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Oh yeah,the Lamborghini Miura too.


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See anything familiar?

What's not to like?
euro911
I had a Miura when I was younger smile.gif






Much younger ... it was a 1/24 scale slot car laugh.gif
Gunn1
Good Thread, will continue to look for more info.
amfab
Imagine how easy to change spark plugs
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