rgolia
Mar 4 2013, 03:03 PM
Any suggestions on how to save it or am I just screwed
?
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachment Well it looks like crap but better than painted over.
SirAndy
Mar 4 2013, 03:07 PM
QUOTE(rgolia @ Mar 4 2013, 01:03 PM)
Any suggestions on how to save it or am I just screwed
?
Anything that isn't sharp or metal. Try a dull plastic knife or some such ...
r_towle
Mar 4 2013, 03:16 PM
possibly tape and paint remover.
It might work to soften the paint if you do it quick...dont leave it on too long.
then, use a plastic scraper like Andy said.
rich
Kaduku
Mar 4 2013, 03:17 PM
Dude that suck! That's why I rather pay a stranger a lot of bucks for a proper job. Anyway, sorry this happened o you, but I do understand trying to save some money. Hopefully you can remove it.
mrbubblehead
Mar 4 2013, 03:31 PM
try goof off or graffiti remover. i have seen threads on the samba where guys remove the second paint jobs on vws. they will do the whole car to get down to the original paint.
balljoint
Mar 4 2013, 03:32 PM
Finger nails.
MrKona
Mar 4 2013, 04:16 PM
QUOTE(r_towle @ Mar 4 2013, 01:16 PM)
possibly tape and paint remover.
It might work to soften the paint if you do it quick...dont leave it on too long.
then, use a plastic scraper like Andy said.
rich
I've removed paint from old power tools that have been repainted by previous owners. I used a mild "Citristrip" paint remover and found that the new paint is a lot softer then the old paint and comes off much easier. It'll start to peel quickly while the original paint remains intact.
Bartlett 914
Mar 4 2013, 04:45 PM
I might be tempted to grind off the rivets and remove the plate. Clean the area and have him touch the spot where it was. There must be and easy way to clean it once removed. The sooner the better
John1180
Mar 4 2013, 04:51 PM
Don't use paint remover or solvents! The first thing that will come off is the black, and you'll be left with a bare aluminum plate with some numbers stamped on it!
Tom_T
Mar 4 2013, 05:32 PM
I used Acetone on Q-tips & carefully eased & worked it off gently, to get off 4 over sprays. It works but takes time & patience, and you may need to touch up some of the black painted areas with matte black paint it you go too far.
I wouldn't use masking tape without first scoring the edge of the plate, since the acetone could wick up under the tape & onto the paint you don't want to remove.
Go slow & gently & acetone will work. Also leave a few minutes for the paint to bubble up after your first wetting. Keep the Q-tips relative dryish with acetone, as you do not want any running!
Kaduku
Mar 4 2013, 05:37 PM
QUOTE(balljoint @ Mar 4 2013, 01:32 PM)
Finger nails.
Great idea, but at the end, you may not have any nails anymore
Jokes aside. No matter what method you decide on, you must do it ASAP.
914outlaw
Mar 4 2013, 05:51 PM
Cevan
Mar 4 2013, 06:05 PM
No offense, but who the hell would paint right over that?
bandjoey
Mar 4 2013, 06:09 PM
Tape it off and wd40 and a soft brass dremm tool. Go slow and easy. Cut around it with a razor knife before starting
rgolia
Mar 7 2013, 07:15 AM
QUOTE(Cevan @ Mar 4 2013, 07:05 PM)
No offense, but who the hell would paint right over that?
This was one of his more minor abortions that I had to deal with. He lost my front turn signal buckets, wiper arms, wiper arm hardware, side marker lights, hood crest, and installed the fog lights upside down, etc. He ended up hurting his back and in the hospital for a month...had to close his shop. I had to deal with his uncle..whos IQ is printed on the side of a shoe box. I was actually just happy I got the car back.
Kaduku
Mar 7 2013, 07:33 AM
QUOTE(rgolia @ Mar 7 2013, 05:15 AM)
QUOTE(Cevan @ Mar 4 2013, 07:05 PM)
No offense, but who the hell would paint right over that?
This was one of his more minor abortions that I had to deal with. He lost my front turn signal buckets, wiper arms, wiper arm hardware, side marker lights, hood crest, and installed the fog lights upside down, etc. He ended up hurting his back and in the hospital for a month...had to close his shop. I had to deal with his uncle..whos IQ is printed on the side of a shoe box. I was actually just happy I got the car back.
Again, that's why I don't hire friends
Those are not rivets holding the plate on, they are push pins with spiral grooves. Remove the speaker grill and they can be tapped out from the backside.
Chris H.
Mar 7 2013, 08:28 AM
QUOTE(Bartlett 914 @ Mar 4 2013, 04:45 PM)
I might be tempted to grind off the rivets and remove the plate. Clean the area and have him touch the spot where it was. There must be and easy way to clean it once removed. The sooner the better
It won't look right unless the tag is ON TOP of the paint. You can touch up the area yourself since the paint is fresh. Also be careful what you scrape it with, that tag is somewhat fragile.
Bartlett 914
Mar 7 2013, 10:25 AM
QUOTE(ejm @ Mar 7 2013, 07:53 AM)
Those are not rivets holding the plate on, they are push pins with spiral grooves. Remove the speaker grill and they can be tapped out from the backside.
I didn't realize you could get to them behind. That would make it easy to save them. They are a metric size. You can get similar push rivets here but the size is a little different an may require opening the holes
914GT
Mar 7 2013, 10:32 AM
Definitely would want to score around the plate all the way down through the primer, otherwise it's going to pull all the new paint and probably the old paint off the door jamb when the plate is taken off.
toadman
Mar 7 2013, 11:03 AM
I have removed dried, overspray paint from chrome trim using only a bamboo cooking skewer. This may work for you if you first soften the paint somehow, maybe with carefully applied heat. If you use heat, be sure to protect the paint surrounding the plaque so it is not softened, too.
euro911
Mar 8 2013, 02:42 AM
QUOTE(914GT @ Mar 7 2013, 08:32 AM)
Definitely would want to score around the plate all the way down through the primer, otherwise it's going to pull all the new paint and probably the old paint off the door jamb when the plate is taken off.
and
QUOTE(ejm @ Mar 7 2013, 05:53 AM)
Those are not rivets holding the plate on, they are push pins with spiral grooves. Remove the speaker grill and they can be tapped out from the backside.
Andy just went through this. You can reuse the pins.
Click HereClick to view attachment
Cairo94507
Mar 8 2013, 07:59 AM
Where does one find a new paint code plate like that? I know the one on my Six was painted over long ago
rgalla9146
Mar 8 2013, 08:18 AM
QUOTE(914GT @ Mar 7 2013, 08:32 AM)
Definitely would want to score around the plate all the way down through the primer, otherwise it's going to pull all the new paint and probably the old paint off the door jamb when the plate is taken off.
As already suggested, carefully cut around the edge with a razor.
Remove the speaker and push the rivets out from behind.
Replacements are available from Stoddard.
When the tag is in your hand you might even be able to peel the paint off.
Poor prep is in your favor. After that a plastic razor or plastic putty knife sounds good. But do it on a flat surface.
mepstein
Mar 8 2013, 08:22 AM
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Mar 8 2013, 08:59 AM)
Where does one find a new paint code plate like that? I know the one on my Six was painted over long ago
It might be worth removing yours and trying to remove the paint and restore it. Maybe the paint has protected the screening underneath?
If the black screening is gone, maybe a print shop could make up a vinyl sticker. You could leave the positive lettering, lay the vinyl on the plate and then paint in the negative image. ...Just a thought.
Socalandy
Mar 8 2013, 11:06 AM
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Mar 8 2013, 05:59 AM)
Where does one find a new paint code plate like that? I know the one on my Six was painted over long ago
got the NOS plate from a guy in Germany that had a lot of -6 stuff. The hard part was finding the correct stamps. Sadly the P/N is not readable on the sticker
Bartlett 914
Mar 8 2013, 01:53 PM
Take it to a Porsche dealer and see it they can read the bar code
rjames
Mar 8 2013, 02:30 PM
QUOTE
This was one of his more minor abortions that I had to deal with. He lost my front turn signal buckets, wiper arms, wiper arm hardware, side marker lights, hood crest, and installed the fog lights upside down, etc. He ended up hurting his back and in the hospital for a month...had to close his shop. I had to deal with his uncle..whos IQ is printed on the side of a shoe box. I was actually just happy I got the car back.
Wow. Hopefully he at least painted it the right color!
Socalandy
Mar 8 2013, 03:36 PM
If I could get more from my Germany contact what would you be willing to pay for one stamped with your info? The one Stoddard and AA has is not correct for our cars and looks to be for 356 era cars
pete000
Mar 8 2013, 03:38 PM
Wow did not know the pins were not rivets!
My plate is bare from this same situation and some one used solvents to remove the over spray. I would like to remove it and see if the black could be replaced or even a new plaque be used.
Any one know where to source a early style plaque? all the ones I have seen are not the same as the ones that came on the 914-6 models.
pete000
Mar 8 2013, 03:39 PM
QUOTE(Socalandy @ Mar 8 2013, 01:36 PM)
If I could get more from my Germany contact what would you be willing to pay for one stamped with your info? The one Stoddard and AA has is not correct for our cars and looks to be for 356 era cars
I am interested in getting the correct plate !
rgolia
Mar 8 2013, 04:37 PM
QUOTE(Socalandy @ Mar 8 2013, 04:36 PM)
If I could get more from my Germany contact what would you be willing to pay for one stamped with your info? The one Stoddard and AA has is not correct for our cars and looks to be for 356 era cars
Andy,
that would be great. I would be willing to pay a reasonable price....this is my baby....had it from new and have many great memories.....I have tried to retore the thing to as close to original as possible with minor mods that I did back in its day......the paint on that plate really pisses me off. If you could get it count me in.
rgolia
Mar 8 2013, 04:47 PM
QUOTE(rgolia @ Mar 8 2013, 05:37 PM)
QUOTE(Socalandy @ Mar 8 2013, 04:36 PM)
If I could get more from my Germany contact what would you be willing to pay for one stamped with your info? The one Stoddard and AA has is not correct for our cars and looks to be for 356 era cars
Andy,
that would be great. I would be willing to pay a reasonable price....this is my baby....had it from new and have many great memories.....I have tried to retore the thing to as close to original as possible with minor mods that I did back in its day......the paint on that plate really pisses me off. If you could get it count me in.
here is my baby.....he did a good job on the paint.....but the stupid stuff, like not taping the plate, is redic
Click to view attachment She deserves a nice tag
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Sadly the P/N is not readable on the sticker
The parts catalog lists a "badge for lacquers" p/n PCG 701 105 00 on the page with all the stickers. The Karmann plate is the only place that has the paint code so this is most likely it.
Karmann Numbers were not stamped into the -6Click to view attachment
rgalla9146
Mar 9 2013, 04:37 PM
QUOTE(gms @ Mar 9 2013, 11:31 AM)
Karmann Numbers were not stamped into the -6
I'm glad you said it Glenn. Never saw one stamped. Would have been a nice touch. I guess Karmann wasn't too proud of them.
BMW CSs are Karmann bodys too and whey rust equally well.
Almost as mysterious as no records of transmission numbers.
I must say it does look good when the blank space is filled.
rgolia
Mar 20 2013, 04:40 PM
well I got it off and hit it with acetone....this is what I got. Not pretty but better than painted. Would love a replacement...but oh well.
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