naro914
Dec 3 2013, 05:41 PM
Not sure if this should go here, but figured it would be the least offensive to the moderators...
We've developed a weld-in 914-6 mount that's similar in design to the Patrick Motorsports mount, but has some improvements with strengthening and angles. I personally run these on both of our cars:
Huey with a stock 3.2 liter
Papa Smurf with a full out 350 hp, 275 lb/ft torque, twin plugged 3.2 liter
No problems, no issues, easily handles the power and makes installing the engine actually really easy!
Price is $375 plus shipping (usually about $25)
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JmuRiz
Dec 3 2013, 07:59 PM
Great looking mount, I would recommend (the only reason I went RJ mount was a killer deal). In hindsight, I would buy naro's anyway.
carr914
Dec 3 2013, 08:15 PM
Bob, what are the Bushings made of? You should think about Delrin
naro914
Dec 3 2013, 10:20 PM
Delrin...
Actually what you don't see (and I should have taken pictures of) is that the bushing slots into the tube on the mount pretty far on either side. they just about touch in the middle.
Need a picture to explain better... Will get one.
billh1963
Dec 7 2013, 06:44 AM
Bob,
I'll be needing a mount for my conversion on the green car. This looks like a nice unit. Can you tell me more about why this mount is better than other units offered including the Porsche design?
Thanks,
Bill
carr914
Dec 7 2013, 08:48 AM
QUOTE(billh1963 @ Dec 7 2013, 07:44 AM)
Bob,
I'll be needing a mount for my conversion on the green car. This looks like a nice unit. Can you tell me more about why this mount is better than other units offered including the Porsche design?
Thanks,
Bill
Bill, I can answer a few things for you and Bob can tell you why it's better that Patrick's
Porsche's is a single mounting point with one Bolt. It's fine for a Real -6 with a 2.0, but if you get some bigger HP,
Rich Johnson's that has been copied by MadDog is a fixed 2 Point Mount that can be Blted in or Welded
Patrick's like Naro's is a 2 Point Mount, but it's hinged, so you can bring the Motor down to do Valve Adjustments. Bob will tell you the improvements he has made.
naro914
Dec 7 2013, 10:53 AM
Regarding the improvements, we found the Patrick mount needed more support at a few points - both on the weld-to-the-chassis mounts and the engine cradle. We actually used a program from Gibbs Racing - which measures strength and weakness points - to design it.
For example: look at the Patrick pieces that weld (or bolt) to the chassis. See how the connection for the engine cradle is at the END of the mount? On ours, we 'cradle' it, and make the mount a bit bigger and stronger - to add more support.
there are also additional supports on the engine cradle too, just hard to see from the Patrick pictures...
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentDon't get me wrong, Patrick's mounts are good mounts, we just think we were able to improve on them some and offer them at a lower price.
naro914
Dec 10 2013, 07:55 AM
A couple people have asked about a template for the mount. I will include simple instructions and this diagram, but I thought I would post it here too:
Mounting location is very easy: assemble the mount (bolt the pieces together with all bushings in place) and fit the welding plates into the corner created by the ridges in the firewall sheet metal and the bottom ridge/lip. Mark the location of the weld plates, then disassemble and weld on your plates individually. I would recommend re-checking your location after you're first plate is welded in case you move it a little - just reassemble and make sure your second mount is still aligned.
Click to view attachmentWe tried to design this to make installation as easy as possible. One thing that every mechanic that's worked on the car since it's been installed says is that putting the engine in and out is now REALLY easy - you just raise the engine to the point that the cross member slides in between the chassis mounts and run the bolts through. The engine can be at an angle and still be bolted in, allowing you to then focus on the transmission mounts.
naro914
Dec 17 2013, 07:13 AM
One left in stock to be shipped in time for Christmas!
More being made over the next few weeks.
-JR-
Jan 9 2014, 12:04 AM
Any idea if these are compatible with a stock 3.6?
One picture you have showing the front pulley looks very close to the engine mounting frame. But I can't see the offset depth (2D photo) so I'm not sure.
Need a mount for my 3.6 street project car.
Also, I'm a little concerned about engine vibration with these bushings. Can you provide any feedback on that? Are you familiar with a polyurethane equivalent I could sub?
Thanks!
naro914
Jan 9 2014, 10:22 AM
JR
I don't see a problem with using the mount for a stock 3.6 liter, but I will be honest and say that we have not done that yet. Dimensionally, it is the same at the Patrick mount that they do use for 3.6 installs, so I would think it would be fine.
You do get some engine vibration felt through the car as yes, the bushings are fairly stiff. The problem with using softer bushings is that the through bolt is basically resting on the bushing, so if it was soft and pliable, it would compress and allow the entire mount to 'sag'...if that makes any sense?
-JR-
Jan 10 2014, 01:54 AM
Super thanks!
Not quite ready to move ahead yet with the mount as I haven't started the project yet. But I'm very interested in this mount when I'm ready. Probably talk to you again in another two-three months for one.
Thanks again.
QUOTE(naro914 @ Jan 9 2014, 08:22 AM)
JR
I don't see a problem with using the mount for a stock 3.6 liter, but I will be honest and say that we have not done that yet. Dimensionally, it is the same at the Patrick mount that they do use for 3.6 installs, so I would think it would be fine.
You do get some engine vibration felt through the car as yes, the bushings are fairly stiff. The problem with using softer bushings is that the through bolt is basically resting on the bushing, so if it was soft and pliable, it would compress and allow the entire mount to 'sag'...if that makes any sense?
naro914
May 12 2014, 08:33 AM
One currently in stock!
spsader
Jul 12 2014, 04:54 PM
Just recently picked up an '89 3.2 and will be needing a mount, yours looks good do you still have one available?
Thanks
Paul
naro914
Jul 13 2014, 04:26 AM
Hi Paul
Yes, I do have one available.
spsader
Jul 13 2014, 10:12 AM
PM sent
Paul
mmascari
Dec 22 2014, 01:26 PM
Hi I am interested in purchasing one of these mounts if you are still producing them. I sent you a PM.
naro914
Jan 10 2015, 07:33 AM
Unfortunately at this point, I'm going to have to take these off the market for the time being. My fabricator has not been able to make them up for me for the past 6 months, and I was told just last night that it may be a few months more.
Very frustrating....I apologize to anyone that was waiting on one.
They are back into production as of 11/8/15!!
no1uno
Jan 12 2015, 02:45 PM
Keep us posted. I would also be interested when they go back into production
naro914
Nov 8 2015, 08:58 PM
UPDATE:
We FINALLY have them back into production!! I have one in stock right now, and will have a bunch stocked up right after Thanksgiving.
Get your order in now for your -6 conversion winter project!!
naro914
Jan 10 2016, 07:20 PM
Two in stock right now...more on their way soon.
naro914
Feb 17 2016, 03:33 PM
One left in stock as of today, and probably won't have more until mid March because we will be on vacation after next week and my fabricator won't be able to make more until the end of the month.
We sell them faster than we can make them!!
mepstein
Feb 17 2016, 03:59 PM
Super simple, clean and great design. I can't imagine anything better. I bought one. I will buy another shortly.
naro914
Feb 17 2016, 04:12 PM
thanks Mark! Glad you like it!!
naro914
Dec 1 2016, 07:24 PM
Two in stock ready to ship...
thomasotten
Dec 7 2016, 06:42 AM
I like it a lot. Can anyone qualify how much vibration is felt?
mepstein
Dec 7 2016, 07:17 AM
Checks in the mail. Thanks!
naro914
Dec 7 2016, 07:40 AM
Thanks Mark!
smokey
Jan 26 2017, 07:56 PM
Who hear bought one of these ?
And ,
Have any sold lately ?
Or
Even available ?
mepstein
Jan 26 2017, 08:22 PM
QUOTE(smokey @ Jan 26 2017, 08:56 PM)
Who hear bought one of these ?
And ,
Have any sold lately ?
Or
Even available ?
I bought 2. Have one on my 3.2 narrow body conversion. 2nd one ready to go on my flared 3.2 conversion car. Best mount available for my needs. Doesn't require relocation of the brake pressure relief valve on an early car.
naro914
Jan 26 2017, 09:00 PM
Smokey
Were out right now, but have a couple being made up that we should have available soon.
sixnotfour
Jan 28 2017, 11:29 AM
QUOTE(naro914 @ Jan 26 2017, 08:00 PM)
Smokey
Were out right now, but have a couple being made up that we should have available soon.
I don't think smokey needs one , his 914 is being built at Patrick Motorsports
naro914
May 24 2017, 09:36 AM
Got Two left in stock right now... More on their way!
914werke
Feb 7 2019, 02:48 PM
Bob are you still offering these? I dont see them on your site.
naro914
Feb 7 2019, 02:58 PM
QUOTE(914werke @ Feb 7 2019, 03:48 PM)
Bob are you still offering these? I dont see them on your site.
yep, under Car>914 Products
https://naroescapemotorsports.com/product/9...n-engine-mount/
naro914
Mar 7 2019, 04:48 PM
We just got a batch of 5 made up...going fast!
TAV
May 26 2019, 04:32 AM
QUOTE(naro914 @ Mar 7 2019, 04:48 PM)
We just got a batch of 5 made up...going fast!
Hi, Are these still available?
I'm starting to collect more parts for my 914 project with a 3.0
Thanks
naro914
May 26 2019, 04:50 PM
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