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Beakster
I have 2 914 to choose from Which one is the better deal ..

Car 1
71 914 has 1.7 that the guy sunk a ton of $$$ in the eng new pistons and barrels ,heads ,intakes, oil cooler, new crane electronic Ignition system with new ceramic wires and plugs, blaster II coil , new gaskets and push rod tubs .. The dual weber have been rebuilt and have had a bunch of work done to it .. Suspension is mostly stock 4-5bolt adapters with fancy mags ..he has told me that all the rust areas have been fixed .. so there's no rust issues. he has a few extra parts but the car runs .. But he is asking $6000.00

Car 2
73 914 has a 2.0 that was rebuilt with new pistons , dual 44 webers , full advance distributor ,and headers , 911s cross drilled 5 bolt rotors , transition kit new CV boots and set of fuchs .. But the car has been sitting for 6 years and Dosen't run because it won't turn over and I don't know how the body is for rust .. BUT he only is wanting $2500.00 too ..

So I'm stuck because I don't know the rust problems or why the eng won't turn over on car 2 .. That's what holding me back .. the cars aren't local for me to check out ..
So what car would you pick and WHY ..?
What's a transition Kit ??
P.S. Thanks Guys I'm sure Learning a lot about 914's from everyone else projects .. a BIG THANK'S to everyone .. like they say welcome.png
boxsterfan
You need to see pictures of the longs and hell holes of each car first.....regardless of the rest of the parts installed.
thelogo
QUOTE(Beakster @ Aug 15 2015, 08:41 PM) *

I have 2 914 to choose from Which one is the better deal ..

Car 1
71 914 has 1.7 that the guy sunk a ton of $$$ in the eng new pistons and barrels ,heads ,intakes, oil cooler, new crane electronic Ignition system with new ceramic wires and plugs, blaster II coil , new gaskets and push rod tubs .. The dual weber have been rebuilt and have had a bunch of work done to it .. Suspension is mostly stock 4-5bolt adapters with fancy mags ..he has told me that all the rust areas have been fixed .. so there's no rust issues. he has a few extra parts but the car runs .. But he is asking $6000.00

Car 2
73 914 has a 2.0 that was rebuilt with new pistons , dual 44 webers , full advance distributor ,and headers , 911s cross drilled 5 bolt rotors , transition kit new CV boots and set of fuchs .. But the car has been sitting for 6 years and Dosen't run because it won't turn over and I don't know how the body is for rust .. BUT he only is wanting $2500.00 too ..

So I'm stuck because I don't know the rust problems or why the eng won't turn over on car 2 .. That's what holding me back .. the cars aren't local for me to check out ..
So what car would you pick and WHY ..?
What's a transition Kit ??
P.S. Thanks Guys I'm sure Learning a lot about 914's from everyone else projects .. a BIG THANK'S to everyone .. like they say welcome.png







1st I'd pick a 914 that doesn't have carburetor s

It's one thing if you put em on yourself ,but don't go paying for someone else's

Mistake s
mikedsilva
Easy... At those prices, buy both.
dangerranger01
Base your choice off of the condition of the body. These cars have rust (read: HAVE rust). so pick the best one in the group. Rust repair will add up very fast, so pick your battle.
mgp4591
QUOTE(dangerranger01 @ Aug 15 2015, 10:09 PM) *

Base your choice off of the condition of the body. These cars have rust (read: HAVE rust). so pick the best one in the group. Rust repair will add up very fast, so pick your battle.

And ask the owner for LOTS of pictures- be specific as to which areas you want to see.
damesandhotrods
Pictures help, but they are not good enough for an accurate rust appraisal. You’re going to have to get underneath and start poking too be sure about the state of the rust. If you can’t do that, have someone do a pre-purchase inspection. The engine, wheels, and all the rest are the easiest, and the cheapest part of the equation. The decision of which car comes down which has the best body…
b.stirbu
I would go for the car that runs..maybe you can negociate a bit.
When I've bought mine, I thought that I only have to change the fuel pump...and 3 months later it's still on the bridge with lots of money and time invested in it..

When you buy a car that was sitting long you'll have to rebuild your brake calipers, probably brake master cilinder, replace all the rubbers, discover what other problems he has. Then mostly every bolt you touch will break, get stuck and sometimes you'll loose hours to remove it...

It depends what you want.. to enjoy the car and ride it without too much hustle go for the good one.
If you want to start a project for the next years go for the cheaper one...
Annapolis914
If you are good with a wrench I would go with the least expensive and enjoy your project. If not, def buy one that needs the min amount of work. Without photos and someone checking out, I am not sure I would buy either. I did this and walked into bad brakes and lots of little things like electric screwed up and more. Needless to say, I have put another $4-5K into what was supposed to be a "show" car. No regrets as car runs great, but hope others avoid my mistake of trusting seller w/o physical inspection.
Of the two, I think a 2.0 is more fun to drive.......but I am a 2.0 owner.
You might want to consider waiting for a local 914 to appear, inevitable that this happens.
Best of luck, peace.
AndyB
IMO I would look at both cars and decide after seeing them in person.
Harpo
agree.gif go see the cars or arrange for someone else to go see the cars.

Got to look at the hell hole under the battery and the longs behind the rocker pannels as others have pointed out.
Beakster
QUOTE(thelogo @ Aug 15 2015, 10:03 PM) *

QUOTE(Beakster @ Aug 15 2015, 08:41 PM) *

I have 2 914 to choose from Which one is the better deal ..

Car 1
71 914 has 1.7 that the guy sunk a ton of $$$ in the eng new pistons and barrels ,heads ,intakes, oil cooler, new crane electronic Ignition system with new ceramic wires and plugs, blaster II coil , new gaskets and push rod tubs .. The dual weber have been rebuilt and have had a bunch of work done to it .. Suspension is mostly stock 4-5bolt adapters with fancy mags ..he has told me that all the rust areas have been fixed .. so there's no rust issues. he has a few extra parts but the car runs .. But he is asking $6000.00

Car 2
73 914 has a 2.0 that was rebuilt with new pistons , dual 44 webers , full advance distributor ,and headers , 911s cross drilled 5 bolt rotors , transition kit new CV boots and set of fuchs .. But the car has been sitting for 6 years and Dosen't run because it won't turn over and I don't know how the body is for rust .. BUT he only is wanting $2500.00 too ..

So I'm stuck because I don't know the rust problems or why the eng won't turn over on car 2 .. That's what holding me back .. the cars aren't local for me to check out ..
So what car would you pick and WHY ..?
What's a transition Kit ??
P.S. Thanks Guys I'm sure Learning a lot about 914's from everyone else projects .. a BIG THANK'S to everyone .. like they say welcome.png







1st I'd pick a 914 that doesn't have carburetor s

It's one thing if you put em on yourself ,but don't go paying for someone else's

Mistake s

Your right ..... I hate messing around with the carbs it seems they are always need to bet tuned or set or the weather is off or some thing .. I'm seriously looking at doing a Fuel injected Turbo 2.0 for my eng ..
somd914
I agree rust is a major concern and a major repair expense - previous repairs should be checked out as well as a thorough check for existing rust - and keep in mind, rust is always ten times worse than it appears.

And for either engine, is there supporting documentation for the rebuilds?

I'd say given the prices, both are in need of work. What is your goal?
r_towle
Buy both, you will end up with two eventually so you may as well start out right
EdwardBlume
Don't buy either without more info. Although the 2.0 could be parted out and get your 2500 back.
Cairo94507
Make your decision after you thoroughly inspect the bodies of each car. Rebuilding a motor is one thing - repairing a butt-load of rust is quite another.

I personally would want the '73 2.0, but if the body was not in good condition I would pass on it.
Beakster
smile.gif Hey guys .... I first want to stat of with thanking everyone for their views and remarks moving from the 78 turbo 911's to 914's has been a big learning curve But I've been learning a lot .. Thanks smilie_pokal.gif

Now about the two cars .. I tend to agree with the thing with rust It never sleeps and the thing is I have seen guys take years trying to repair it all .. I don't have that kinda time or the Patience to go thru another 3-5yr project ..

The only hurdle I have is I really can't stand the sound of a 4cyl Porsche It reminds me of a VW Bug ... I'm really hope to change that with some headers and a better muffler .. any suggestions .. Thanks again bye1.gif
whitetwinturbo
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somd914
QUOTE(Beakster @ Aug 16 2015, 10:41 AM) *

The only hurdle I have is I really can't stand the sound of a 4cyl Porsche It reminds me of a VW Bug ... I'm really hope to change that with some headers and a better muffler .. any suggestions .. Thanks again bye1.gif


Triad mufflers are great sounding and great quality:

http://www.triadwestperformance.com/Products.htm

For me I run a MagnaFlow grafted onto a Bursch collector salvaged from a Bursch muffler. Sounds decent, nice and throaty on acceleration, but once it goes I'll go for a Triad.

My biggest issue is valve train noise. Even adjusted Type IVs seem to be noisy.
ConeDodger
Until you lay eyes and hands on both, I would leave your wallet out of it... dry.gif
Cairo94507
OK - so really you want to shop for a six or six conversion if that is where you head is. I totally understand.

The problem with the aftermarket headers and/or mufflers, is even the best of them tend to be loud(er) than stock. I am not sure that is what you are seeking if you are an older guy like me. I want to hear the air cooled motor without upsetting all of my neighbors. Really, I wish I could do the electronic valves on my six like my C4S has. Quiet when you want and louder when you want.
Mueller
Rust sucks and unless I knew the person that "claims" to have fixed the rust I would be skeptical of all repairs unless pictures exist or you or someone else can inspect the car.

Why are you bailing on the 911 build?

What are the chances of you getting a 914 project car and it has the same fate?

If I was a betting man, I'd say that the 930 turbo motor with transmission will sell easily and the 911 shell is going to be sitting around for a long, long time. Too many negative issues with it to be highly desirable in my opinion.
thelogo
QUOTE(b.stirbu @ Aug 16 2015, 12:35 AM) *

s. Then mostly every bolt you touch will break, get stuck and sometimes you'll loose hours to remove it.








All hail this guy

You speak the truth. Man
Mikey914
1st of all, any 914 is not rust free, it either has rust or will have rust given its storage situation.
Buy the best body you can get, it may or may not be one of these. The motor is only a matter of money. Depending on the build documentation you may find you want to do your own.
Also, you will have roadblocks. Of you take in a project take the amount you think you are going to spend and tripple it.you will probably be into it for that. With the way these cars have been appreciating you will not make a ton of money right now, but you can come out ahead, if you don't coin your time. So buy a project if you enjoy the journey. If not you may be best suited to spend more and get exactly what you want.
5 years ago these"project" cars were worth half as much. It's now viable to do a restoration, but start with the best body you can get.
Just my .02
Stacks914
You'll quickly buy another one regardless of which one you buy. In between buying parts and fixing them you'll be looking for a third(if you just cleaned up that third car garage/or your gf will park it for you/ or a storage shed). So buy both! Just get a good deal and think about how much you can part them out for so you have nothing to lose!! If anything think of it as cheap entertainment. You can quickly blow this amount of money going out/casino/vacation. So have some fun! Goodluck!!!!!
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