Qarl
Mar 5 2005, 10:53 PM
A while back, I redid the dash.
My '75 car had the later style basket weave dash face with the metal embedded inside. It was pretty beat up.
I cut a new dash face out of Formica, got some of the earlier style basket weave and glued it using the 3M Super Adhesive. 9 months later, it is pealing around the cutouts. I DID make it larger than the actual dash face plate and it is tucked underneath the dash top and the lower dash pad. It won't do.
Since I really won't have basketweave anywhere else in the car, I am thinking of maybe doing something else unique to the dash face.
Options...
1. Brushed aluminum dash face. This would look good with my silver Prototipo steering wheel, silver gauge rings, and the brushed aluminum pedal board
2. Cover dash face and lower dash face in black felt ala 914-6 GT. My only hesistations are a. I would really like to keep the lower dash pad, and two the GTs didn't have the air vents on the dash, so my car will look a bit odd.
I could still do just the dash face. And the upper dash too. This would aid in reducing glare on the windshield
3. Carbon fiber - I "could" do this. I do have a carbon fiber fan shroud on my engine.
4. Cut a dash face plat out of black ABS plastic that has some sort of grain to it (similar to the dash pads).
no pics
5. Have a dash face cut out of metal and powder coat it to match the silver powder coated gauge rings...
I am looking for opinions and suggestions...
Aaron Cox
Mar 5 2005, 11:01 PM
qarl, you are my twin!
i have a brushed AL prototipo, a 904 gauge, etc....
im making a brushed AL dash insert....
scotty b
Mar 5 2005, 11:04 PM
First off, did you remove and coat the O.E. rings or install some kind of kit? Do you have the correct ring crimper and if so where did you get it?
Second, suggestions = paint it body color, wood veneer, "engine turned" aluminum (scotch loc disc in a drill press does a great job), brushed aluminum
Qarl
Mar 5 2005, 11:07 PM
The gauges were redone by Palo Alto Speedometer. I didn't touch them. They powdercoated new rings and crimped them on when the gauges were refurbished.
I don't like the body color dash face. I have seen a few and didn't care for it.
It has to either be black or silver... I just gotta figure out which way to do it.
boxstr
Mar 5 2005, 11:13 PM
Karl Final meeting Monday with manufacturer for the brushed stainless steel dash inserts.The plan is to make them for all options, and for all years.
I have all of the templates and just need to finalize the number of different sets that will need to be made to correspond with the different 914s.
One thing I have not been successful at is the gauge bezel overlays. I did go to China for intital setup. Cost was way more than I wanted it to be. It would have been years to get into the red.
Craig
SteveL
Mar 5 2005, 11:26 PM
I love the texture of the guage panel - how did you do that? I vote for the dash face done the same way.
Qarl
Mar 5 2005, 11:35 PM
Heck... that's an option too...
The gauge panel is plastic... the '75 and '76 cars came that way instead of the metal gauge holders in the '70 to '74.
I could get some crinkle paint to do the same thing...
However, I want to eliminate some things on the dash... like some of the switch holes and the rectangular seat belt warning light cutout.
Qarl
Mar 5 2005, 11:37 PM
Craig...
My only issue is I'd like the dash face to have the following...
1. One contiguous piece from left side to left side of glove box. Separate piece for glove box
2. Holes for headlights, foglight, hazard switches and cigaratte lighter
3. Delete hole for seatbelt warning light
4. DIN cutout for radio
5. Cut to fit '75 or '76. I think it is different below the steering column...
Aaron Cox
Mar 5 2005, 11:38 PM
QUOTE (Qarl @ Mar 5 2005, 10:37 PM) |
Craig...
My only issue is I'd like the dash face to have the following...
1. One contiguous piece from left side to left side of glove box. Separate piece for glove box 2. Holes for headlights, foglight, hazard switches and cigaratte lighter 3. Delete hole for seatbelt warning light 4. DIN cutout for radio 5. Cut to fit '75 or '76. I think it is different below the steering column... |
im a stickler for 1 piece around the column (pull column to install)
iamchappy
Mar 5 2005, 11:39 PM
Time to start poking around the internet to see if sheets of vinyl grain or plastic sheets are available.
Be back shortly.
scotty b
Mar 5 2005, 11:43 PM
You can get textured powder coat. I don't know if the texture could be exactly matched to the plastic, but if not you could replace the housing with a steel one. I would get a strip of 18 gauge sheet metal, cut to fit and cut the holes you want and get it coated if you like that look.
MattR
Mar 5 2005, 11:46 PM
Speaking of dash faces, does anyone have a dash face already drawn up? Any cad files you guys want to share? Or maybe just some dimensions? I dont really want to start from scratch, but I will if I have to.
Qarl
Mar 5 2005, 11:49 PM
I like the idea of possibly matching the crinkle finish of the dash cluster...
I have some ideas now...
Hmmm.....
iamchappy
Mar 5 2005, 11:57 PM
Got it ABS plastic sheeting with leather grain or pebble grain.
Like the dash caps stuff.
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markb
Mar 6 2005, 12:41 AM
QUOTE (boxstr @ Mar 5 2005, 09:13 PM) |
Karl Final meeting Monday with manufacturer for the brushed stainless steel dash inserts.The plan is to make them for all options, and for all years. I have all of the templates and just need to finalize the number of different sets that will need to be made to correspond with the different 914s. |
I'd be interested in one for the 70. Depending on price, I might go for one for the 72 also.
Dr Evil
Mar 6 2005, 01:36 AM
Anodized aluminum? I am in the same quest right now. I have similar gauge bezels, and a similar wheel.
Vinyl with silver trim?
xsboost90
Mar 6 2005, 06:24 AM
i have a guy that is going to cut out mine from aluminum on a waterjet machine, but i have to send him a template for my 76 first. I dont have a seatbelt hole, and im deleting my radio, but other than that, should be the same. He said the first one cost the most, so ill prob have like four to six made and sell the others.
Qarl
Mar 6 2005, 10:25 AM
XSboost90
I may be interested...
I would like one as described above...
2 switch holes on the left...
1 switch hole on the right and cigarette lighter hole
No seatbelt light
DIN radio cutout
Blower control cutout
Panel to cover glove box
When you get to it, let me know what the price may be.
I am interested in brushed aluminum or brushed stainless...
Aaron Cox
Mar 6 2005, 10:28 AM
QUOTE (Qarl @ Mar 6 2005, 09:25 AM) |
XSboost90
I may be interested...
I would like one as described above...
2 switch holes on the left...
1 switch hole on the right and cigarette lighter hole
No seatbelt light
DIN radio cutout
Blower control cutout
Panel to cover glove box
When you get to it, let me know what the price may be.
I am interested in brushed aluminum or brushed stainless... |
yup me too....
headlight/hazard/fog (1 piece around the column) cigarette lighter (no seatbelt light) DIN radio cutout | NO DOOR HANDLE HOLES
Qarl
Mar 6 2005, 10:34 AM
What are door handle holes?
Aaron Cox
Mar 6 2005, 10:36 AM
QUOTE (Qarl @ Mar 6 2005, 09:34 AM) |
What are door handle holes? |
glove box door holes (where the handle screws on)
Qarl
Mar 6 2005, 10:40 AM
Aah.... yes.. those can always be added on later.
MattR
Mar 6 2005, 12:30 PM
I'm in for one exactly like aarons. Except I want mine cheaper
boxstr
Mar 6 2005, 12:45 PM
I will take some pics later today. The idea of someone who buys the insert removing there steering column to install is not going to be that widely accepted. The seat belt light delte I already have them in the works.
There will be inserts for the 70-72 and the 73-74 and the 75-76. Stock radio cutouts and DIN cutouts. The glovebox door will be seperate.
I have the manufacturing costs already worked out and the different templates in hand. I just need to get the different DIN sizes, (anyone??) Retail costs are going to be kept low as I try to do with all of the CAMP 914 products.
Craig C. Laughlin CAMP 914
dagdal1967
Apr 21 2006, 10:03 AM
CRAIG ... Did this go anywhere.. I'm looking now for a Stainless or Brushed aluminum dash option and the only thing I can find is the 9xAuto kit.
Not heard good things about them, so am still trying to look around..
???
TeamAxisRacing
Apr 21 2006, 03:25 PM
i got the best suggestion so far... balsa wood! the DAPO did that to my dash very ghetto i might add
i dont have any pics of it handy but
736conver
Apr 21 2006, 05:56 PM
I have been making these for awhile now. I have adapted the design so it just slips over the sterring column. The other way really was a pain in the a**. I always made them to the customers specs. Some with cut outs some without. All were made from 16ga aluminum.
Here's a pic of the last one I made without radio and heater.
Click to view attachment
Aaron Cox
Apr 21 2006, 05:59 PM
QUOTE(736conver @ Apr 21 2006, 04:56 PM)
I have been making these for awhile now. I have adapted the design so it just slips over the sterring column. The other way really was a pain in the a**. I always made them to the customers specs. Some with cut outs some without. All were made from 16ga aluminum.
Here's a pic of the last one I made without radio and heater.
Click to view attachmentbrian! where have you been!!!
how much for one where i need to pull the column to install?
no radio/no heater
hl/flshr/fog column fog2/defrost/ no radio/no seatbelt / no heater
Eric_Shea
Apr 21 2006, 06:23 PM
QUOTE
qarl, you are my twin!
i have a brushed AL prototipo, a 904 gauge, etc....
Except Qarl did it about 5 years before your copy-cat'n ass!
Aaron Cox
Apr 21 2006, 06:24 PM
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Apr 21 2006, 05:23 PM)
QUOTE
qarl, you are my twin!
i have a brushed AL prototipo, a 904 gauge, etc....
Except Qarl did it about 5 years before your copy-cat'n ass!
B L O W me eric. this thread is old..........
Eric_Shea
Apr 21 2006, 06:29 PM
736conver
Apr 21 2006, 08:15 PM
Aaron,
I'll send you a PM. Anything in flat metal I cut with a cnc plasma cutter.
Do you remeber seeing these at all. They were at the WCC last year.
Click to view attachment
Aaron Cox
Apr 21 2006, 08:45 PM
yup! high quality stuff!!
toon1
Apr 21 2006, 08:54 PM
I would also like to know the cost, I have been looking for this also. Can you PM me with a price? Sorry about the
QUOTE(736conver @ Apr 21 2006, 04:56 PM)
I have been making these for awhile now. I have adapted the design so it just slips over the sterring column. The other way really was a pain in the a**. I always made them to the customers specs. Some with cut outs some without. All were made from 16ga aluminum.
Here's a pic of the last one I made without radio and heater.
Click to view attachment
Grimstead
Apr 21 2006, 11:20 PM
Me Too
But I would like to keep my heater & sterio...
QUOTE(toon1 @ Apr 21 2006, 07:54 PM)
I would also like to know the cost, I have been looking for this also. Can you PM me with a price? Sorry about the
QUOTE(736conver @ Apr 21 2006, 04:56 PM)
I have been making these for awhile now. I have adapted the design so it just slips over the sterring column. The other way really was a pain in the a**. I always made them to the customers specs. Some with cut outs some without. All were made from 16ga aluminum.
Here's a pic of the last one I made without radio and heater.
Click to view attachment
dagdal1967
Apr 22 2006, 08:39 AM
Wait a minute boys... What about the poor guy who resurected this thread?
I need one, and love the fact athat I probably won't have to pull the steering column to install it.
I'm not sure of what I need for holes yet as my car is still on its way to me... I'll PM you later with the details and you can give me a price.
What is the best way to fix them to the dash? Do you also do the cover for the glovebox?
Doug
turbo914v8
Apr 22 2006, 10:36 AM
QUOTE(dagdal1967 @ Apr 22 2006, 07:39 AM)
Wait a minute boys... What about the poor guy who resurected this thread?
I need one, and love the fact athat I probably won't have to pull the steering column to install it.
I'm not sure of what I need for holes yet as my car is still on its way to me... I'll PM you later with the details and you can give me a price.
What is the best way to fix them to the dash? Do you also do the cover for the glovebox?
Doug
Looks like we have a winner here. Count me in for one as well.
736conver
Apr 23 2006, 10:22 AM
Ok I have received many emails and PM's. I also tried to contact Craig to see if he is selling these. I didnt want to undercut his prices and also wanted to try and work with him. He didnt respond though, I am guessing he doesnt sell them anymore or it never materialize into anything. His post was from 2005.
I sell these for $50 plus shipping. Any combo can be made for switches or cut outs. If your interested send me an email and I will send you more info.
7TPorsh
Apr 26 2006, 12:00 PM
These look awesome, but I want to do a wood face dash. Anyone have a generic outline template or dimensions for a one piece face????
Or how about a general size of the piece of wood I need. Lots of nice 1/4", 1/8" and veneers available in Zebrawood and such. Any suggestions?
It seems this measurement or template is more sacred than the top windshield seal.
7TPorsh
Apr 26 2006, 12:02 PM
Like this, beautiful!!
msglaigaie
Apr 26 2006, 12:37 PM
The wood looks good, but the steel looks sharp. Brian, do you have a pic of a completed installation?? MSG L
Steve Thacker
Apr 26 2006, 01:18 PM
QUOTE(7T Porsha @ Apr 26 2006, 02:02 PM)
Like this, beautiful!!
Now that is the nicest wood layout I have ever seen. I got wood over the wood
tat2dphreak
Apr 26 2006, 01:25 PM
sand and paint it... I did mine with a hammered finish paint...
736conver
Apr 26 2006, 01:41 PM
QUOTE(msglaigaie @ Apr 26 2006, 01:37 PM)
The wood looks good, but the steel looks sharp. Brian, do you have a pic of a completed installation?? MSG L
I will email some of my previous customers and see if I can get some pics.
Grimstead
Apr 26 2006, 02:05 PM
Hi Brian,
Do you cut out for the glove box lock (I can not tell from your picture) and is there a separate piece for the glove box itself?
I am still very interested but would I also would like to see how it looks installed.
Bill
7TPorsh
May 5 2006, 11:29 AM
Finished installed pics?
Do you have the glove box door and the far right piece for a 70-71 dash without the vents?
Rand
May 5 2006, 01:35 PM
My car's personality is minimalist... no amenities, simple and light as possible without body mods. So...
This won't be everyone's cup of tea, but with the heater/air controls, glove box, and everything else gone, it was a super quick job.
Took the dash pads off, shaved a couple bumps off the metal, put aluminim tape over the holes, sprayed a little adhesive, layed the material on, and put the dash pads back.
I'm thinking of redoing with black vinyl, but my son wanted to see how it looked with burlap...
Aaron Cox
May 5 2006, 01:36 PM
QUOTE(Rand @ May 5 2006, 12:35 PM)
This won't be everyone's cup of tea, but with the heater/air controls, glove box, and everything else gone, this was a super quick job.
Took the dash pads off, shaved a couple bumps off the metal, put aluminim tape over the holes, sprayed a little adhesive, layed the material on, and put the dash pads back.
I'm planning on redoing with black vinyl, but my son wanted to see how it looked with burlap...
i think im doing the same thing, no HVAC contols, or radio...... but keeping the glovebox
doing it in felt i believe....
Eric_Shea
May 5 2006, 01:42 PM
QUOTE
i think im doing the same thing, no HVAC contols, or radio...... but keeping the glovebox
That's exactly what I'm doing!
tat2dphreak
May 5 2006, 01:49 PM
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ May 5 2006, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE
i think im doing the same thing, no HVAC contols, or radio...... but keeping the glovebox
That's exactly what I'm doing!
copycats...
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