Optical Ignition....which one and where do i order? I woudl like one that doesn't require a snap-on nuclear reactor or something that requires 1000 wires to hook up. I was thinking of the XR1000 (highest one listed ) on PP's site

Mallory unilite. 3 wires.

Crane XR-700

Do a search for the best price.

M

good stuff....i am SO done with getting stuck at random places and finding pitted points.....I smelled fuel when i cranked on my car for 1 minute straight, but not even a hint of spark...WTF?

Under the cap...two wires to hook up...CompuFire magnetic points...You can get one from just about any VW hot rod place...about $60.

QUOTE (Engman @ May 4 2005, 04:33 PM)

Crane XR-700 Do a search for the best price. M

Summit Racing and it's in his backyard. trust me I've checked.

I liked my pertronix. Not optical, but very easy to install.

QUOTE (fiid @ May 4 2005, 04:44 PM)

I liked my pertronix. Not optical, but very easy to install.

Pertronix, works well if you don't f-up the install.

Or alternatively learn how to properly set up and maintain points.

stick with the points, they are easy! we had pretronix and the failed at hight rpm, 1 month old,went through several tests, put points back in and never had a problem. was running 1.32's at hallett motor speedway only a 4cy

pertronix....

2 wires. DONE

didn't you bitch about your points a few months ago???

you had tons of good advice that you refused to listen to and now you are asking the same damn thing that gets asked every week???

QUOTE (Mueller @ May 4 2005, 06:19 PM)

didn't you bitch about your points a few months ago??? you had tons of good advice that you refused to listen to and now you are asking the same damn thing that gets asked every week???

easy there pops.....

he will figure it out soon enough


watch your blood pressure mike

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ May 4 2005, 08:16 PM)

pertronix.... 2 wires. DONE

It dosn't get any easier.

QUOTE (Mueller @ May 4 2005, 09:19 PM)

didn't you bitch about your points a few months ago??? you had tons of good advice that you refused to listen to and now you are asking the same damn thing that gets asked every week???

THANK YOU!

I was sure this was covered previously ad nausea.

mike...it's okay. Just sit down and take a break. The points are fine, I just have to figure out why they keep getting pitted and stuff...condensor replaced not too long ago, not porsche but it worked.....*shrugs* Where can i get a GOOD set of nice points and condensor?

If you take your time, the Pertronix install only lasts 30 minutes.

I don't understand why people dislike them.
Put it on my FOUR, no problems and I enjoyed improved starting and top end performance.
Did it on my SIX with the same results. Impossible to suffer from worn points or "float" anymore.
Can't recommend it any higher.

KT

you really need to get rid of that air dam

Call me stupid.. (call me whatever you want actually).. but it *sounds* to me like the car is running really RICH. This will burn up points. I cant even recall when the last time was that I adjusted/installed points. THROW THEM out.


B

QUOTE (Brad Roberts @ May 4 2005, 10:31 PM)

I can't even recall when the last time was that I adjusted/installed points. THROW THEM out. B

x 2.

Pertronix Ignitor; easiest/quickest breakerless upgrade out there, ESPECIALLY if you've already removed the distributor once before (IIRC).

Pertronix???? i dont like that they burn out.....how will i know that i tubed $60....can i turn them off via switch or something if i wanna say prime the fuel pump after a vapor lock situation?

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Pertronix???? i dont like that they burn out ...

Only if you install it incorrectly; it's just two wires (sheesh).

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how will i know that i tubed $60....

It won't start, at all. See above ...

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can i turn them off via switch or something if i wanna say prime the fuel pump after a vapor lock situation?

Yes, it's called the ignition switch. If you have to "prime the fuel pump after a vapor lock situation" than you need to relocate your fuel pump!

Do the Pertronix ... it just ain't that hard.

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i dont like that they burn out

Pertronix makes igniter and igniter II for near every vehicle ever made. For years they have been making these kits ( at least 20 )
I think this burn out thing is misinformation.
You don't stay in business for long if you sell junk.

I have yet to meet anyone who has blown their Pertronix.
Sure, I've heard the "stories".

Now, points. We all know they gag.

KT

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*sounds* to me like the car is running really RICH. This will burn up points.

Brad, help me out on this one. How can points be effected by a RICH fuel injection???

yeah....me too...i've been digging through my BOSCH books, i'm scatching my head

QUOTE (trekkor @ May 4 2005, 07:12 PM)

You don't stay in business for long if you sell junk.

ford?

QUOTE (MattR @ May 4 2005, 09:54 PM)

QUOTE (trekkor @ May 4 2005, 07:12 PM) You don't stay in business for long if you sell junk. ford?

agree

Britt,

you are making this WAY too hard. You ask for advice on points, we say go pertronix/compufre/crane/allison.
do a little research on these points replacements OR mess with your points.

Pertronix dont blow up. I had an ignitor in my 050 for 2 years. never a hickup. there are 2 wires (black and red).
the only way you can smoke a dumb pertronix is by leaving the ignition on for like 30 min without the car running, or buy having the wrong ohmage coil.

PERTRONIX has a website...full of information, kit numbers, prices, etc.
THEY EVEN TELL you how to measure your coil/ignition's ohmage, to tell you if it is compatible with their module.

and all the suppliers have them.

QUOTE (Engman @ May 4 2005, 04:33 PM)

Crane XR-700

Just put one in the Blue car yesterday.

now i'm on crane XR-700 or pertronix... I think i'm gonna do pertronix

Brief hijack intercept:

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ford?

Sad, really sad.

My 2001 F-350 turbo diesel has 50,000 trouble free miles.

BTW, all the new Fords are no loger running breaker points.

back on topic-

Aaron said it all.

KT

I had the same Pertronx for 12 years (sold with the >050 dizzy) worked great always. I dunno if I would recognize points...

If ya wanna throw down, the Mallory will change everything. I was stunned at the smoothness and response when I used the rightl advance spring selection.

$60 or $260. $60 will bring you into last century, but actually, if you have enough cheese....

It was a joke... i have a few fords in my family, in fact im the only one with a non american car.

my dad has a rover (ford) and my mom has a jag (ford)....so i'm jokin too.....i'm on the pertronix.

Brad, I'm with the other guys - how can running rich cause you to burn up points? Plugs foul and this causes more energy to be dissipated in the points? I dunno.

Britt, points should not burn this easily. You have a faulty component, have things hooked up incorrectly, or are using the wrong techniques to set the dwell/timing. Watch out or your problems may carry over and burn out whatever optical/magnetic ignition you install.

Common problems include: dwell not set correctly. wrong condensor for the car. wrong coil. coil wired backwards or in such a way that +12V is making it straight to the points. ignition is always on or key is left on with engine not running.

nobody has any PP online coupons do they ?

QUOTE (jkeyzer @ May 4 2005, 10:33 PM)

ignition is always on or key is left on with engine not running. or the condensor thing.

That's me right there....

QUOTE (trekkor @ May 4 2005, 08:16 PM)

Brief hijack intercept: QUOTE ford? Sad, really sad. My 2001 F-350 turbo diesel has 50,000 trouble free miles. BTW, all the new Fords are no loger running breaker points. back on topic- Aaron said it all. KT

Diesels don't have ignition systems anyway..

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Diesels don't have ignition systems anyway

No wonder the guy at my FLAPS gave me a funny look when I asked for plugs, wires, cap and rotor.

KT

Rich mixture will burn up points because it's harder to arc, so more power flows through the points causing arcing and pitting. Somethin' like that.

so the concensus of the board.

BUY A DAMN POINTS REPLACEMENT, and double check your mixture

how do i check my mixture???? isn't it D-jet's job to do that?

D-Jet is an open loop system. Which means it doesn't know if it's rich or lean. You need an O2 sensor of some type in order to be closed loop (for the most part).

well i knew that much, but i dont remember there being a setting for complete rich-lean setting

Whatever....

Go read Brad Anders site and learn for yourself.

either go cheap, and use compufire or pertronix, or go balls out and get the mallory... IMHO

pertronix ordered....in next wednesday....

which means more and less

actually i need to get me a new condensor.....i blew another point set, has some cancer looking white spot on the surface........both sides

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new condensor

Don't bother. The Pertronix kit replace both points and condensor.

Why is the kit coming next wednesday?
If you ordered it from HPH, you'd have it tommorow or saturday...

KT

Just recieved a phone call tip from "Miles the Geek". The line in Savanah is that Britt will blow the Petronix unit before he gets it outta the box.....10 : 1