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mbseto
Glad to hear your family is safe. Condolences on the cars... I think I know what you mean about losing the tools, something that you've held so much it feels like a part of you. Hang in there man, hope you are made whole before long.
914dave
My sympathies for your loss. Glad you are the family are ok.
LowBridge
wow, not really sure I have any words other than thank god you are your family are safe. good luck on the recovery.
napasteve
CalFire C-130 just dropped a red load on our house. Hallelujah.
SirAndy
QUOTE(napasteve @ Oct 12 2017, 12:16 PM) *

CalFire C-130 just dropped a red load on our house. Hallelujah.

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davehg
The devastation in Napa, Sonoma, and Santa Rosa is disheartening. So many objects acquired over a lifetime consumed in seconds. Rebuilding will be painful and hopefully financially you will be covered.

I spent the day yesterday with a good friend, a car designer and co-founder of the RGruppe, and we were looking at some amazing 914-6s. When I heard about some of the cars he had owned and sold, my initial thought was "how could bring yourself to part with these?" His answer may help you find peace here - he said that he considers the journey to be far more important than the objects. He describes the cars he's owned and parted with as a series of great experiences, and when he's done with the experience, it's time to move on to new ones, which keeps him excited and engaged. (That also explained why we found ourselves in a garage in rural WA looking at a slightly decrepit Austin Healy Sprite to consider).

When I think back on the cars I've owned and regretted selling/crashing etc, I'm at peace when I think of my friend's perspective. What I've enjoyed more than owning them is experiencing them. However they leave my life, the experiences (and the friendships and discoveries) are the best part of the journey.

Yes, the fire burnt your possessions but it didn't consume your journey or your experience - it just created the opportunity to find a new experience. Hopefully that will bring you some added optimism especially as you and your neighbors are surrounded by devastation.

Toasting not your loss but the beginning of your next journey!




napasteve
I like what you wrote Dave and right now I don't know if my Olympic blue still exists. I'll post when I know.
914-300Hemi
So sorry for your loss. Glad to hear that you and your family are okay.
dcheek
My father had one great line:

"Things always get better"

He grew up during the great depression, so you can see where that thought came from.

I can't tell you how many times I repeated that phrase to myself when I was in the depths of depression over some the many calamities in my life. It gave me hope for a better future. Life is a series of highs and lows. Rest assured that this low will be followed by a high. It seems impossible now but, it will come.

Dave
napasteve
Please understand: our house may have burned but we don't know. We may know soon.
MartyYeoman
Waiting is a bitch!!
SirAndy
QUOTE(napasteve @ Oct 12 2017, 04:16 PM) *
Please understand: our house may have burned but we don't know. We may know soon.

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napasteve
House and 914 still intact. I'm about to start drinking. It's been a helluva day. Pictures soon.
turk22
We have been following the devastation from here, and can you tell you that is incredible and disheartening to see the devastation over such a wide area. I cannot imagine the feeling to see you home and everything in it disappear.

Hope you come out the other side in tact....
VaccaRabite
Wow. Just. Wow.

Everything that isn't steel melted to slag.
Zach
914_teener
QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Oct 12 2017, 07:03 PM) *

Wow. Just. Wow.

Everything that isn't steel melted to slag.
Zach



Water boils at 212 F.

There is no way to stop this with the winds the way they where blowing.

I had friends living on St. Johns USVI and now this.....

I feel like doing something.
Valy
I'm glad you and your family are safe.
Sorry about your loss.
Krieger
QUOTE(napasteve @ Oct 12 2017, 06:39 PM) *

House and 914 still intact. I'm about to start drinking. It's been a helluva day. Pictures soon.


Thank God! piratenanner.gif Tonight was a two beer night for me.
Big Len
Is this your neighborhood? Jesus, unbelievable.
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ChrisFoley
QUOTE(napasteve @ Oct 12 2017, 09:39 PM) *

House and 914 still intact. I'm about to start drinking. It's been a helluva day. Pictures soon.

I'm hanging with you Steve.
A map on my browser is centered on your property showing updated satellite data of the nearby fire line and hot spots. That's way too close for comfort with a hot spot at the bottom of the hill and the fire line along Mt Veeder Rd.
Praying that good conditions today will mitigate any threat from high winds returning this weekend.
MrKona
Thank you all for your thoughts and encouragement. I'm still having trouble coming to terms that this happened to me. It really does suck. I know it will get better, but it sure sucks now. I've been looking for a silver lining and one of them is that my waiting is over. My house is gone. Unlike others, I do not have the stress of anticipation. Yesterday I was helping a friend of mine in an evacuation alert zone to clean up his yard and wet down the perimeter of his still intact house. He has feeling a stress that I do not have.

My neighborhood is currently off limits so I have not been able to visit the house again. I feel better than I did a few days ago, but I'm sure when I do get back in there it's going to hurt again, but a little less.

The thing is, it's not just one or two houses burned. It's blocks, neighborhoods. It's crazy what has happened, and I wonder how many years it will take to rebuild these places, and what it'll take to get there.
MrKona
QUOTE(barefoot @ Oct 11 2017, 06:17 AM) *

Our newspaper here in Charleston commented that there was very little time to evacuate for many and that the fires were so hot that metal tire rims melted and left cars sitting on their axles.
Arial photos of before & after of Coffey Park neighborhood of Santa Rosa showed the dramatic destruction of many blocks of homes and at least 17 deaths.
Thank god you got out in time.


I was not home... had flown to Atlanta on Sunday. My wife called me at 3am PST and told me they were evacuating. Our neighbor across the street woke my wife to alert her of the glow on the hill over our neighborhood. My wife banged on other neighbors' doors. People were honking car horns to wake others. Another neighbor went to my house and asked my wife if she was ready to go. My young son got dressed, wife rounded up three cats and fled with another family. Must have been quite a scene.
MrKona
QUOTE(Big Len @ Oct 11 2017, 07:57 PM) *

Funny how the houses behind you don't look to be touched.


Yeah... we were right on the edge. Houses across the street were not touched. Here's what my backyard looks like.
MrKona
QUOTE(davehg @ Oct 12 2017, 12:50 PM) *

The devastation in Napa, Sonoma, and Santa Rosa is disheartening. So many objects acquired over a lifetime consumed in seconds. Rebuilding will be painful and hopefully financially you will be covered.

I spent the day yesterday with a good friend, a car designer and co-founder of the RGruppe, and we were looking at some amazing 914-6s. When I heard about some of the cars he had owned and sold, my initial thought was "how could bring yourself to part with these?" His answer may help you find peace here - he said that he considers the journey to be far more important than the objects. He describes the cars he's owned and parted with as a series of great experiences, and when he's done with the experience, it's time to move on to new ones, which keeps him excited and engaged. (That also explained why we found ourselves in a garage in rural WA looking at a slightly decrepit Austin Healy Sprite to consider).

When I think back on the cars I've owned and regretted selling/crashing etc, I'm at peace when I think of my friend's perspective. What I've enjoyed more than owning them is experiencing them. However they leave my life, the experiences (and the friendships and discoveries) are the best part of the journey.

Yes, the fire burnt your possessions but it didn't consume your journey or your experience - it just created the opportunity to find a new experience. Hopefully that will bring you some added optimism especially as you and your neighbors are surrounded by devastation.

Toasting not your loss but the beginning of your next journey!


Thank you kindly for this interesting perspective..
frankiec@outrageous.net
Please don't forget Mendocino County. I'm on the coast, thank God! My 14 is well but inland it is an inferno. Drove up yesterday from Santa Rosa and you could see the fire burning from the 101 all the way up. sad.gif
MrKona
QUOTE(frankiec@outrageous.net @ Oct 13 2017, 11:07 AM) *

Please don't forget Mendocino County. I'm on the coast, thank God! My 14 is well but inland it is an inferno. Drove up yesterday from Santa Rosa and you could see the fire burning from the 101 all the way up. sad.gif


True. There are so many fires burning it's hard to keep track. Best of luck to you!
napasteve
I'm just back from a trip to our house. House still there. Porsches both in garage and ok. All of my brush removal/fuel reduction efforts seem to be paying off. Fire has burned around most of the house on the ground but has not gotten into the tree canopies. I'll add some pics if I can figure out how to do that with my iPhone. EDIT: I'm too dumb to post pics from my iPhone. Strong north winds forecast for tonight are worrying. We're still hoping for the best.
tygaboy
QUOTE(napasteve @ Oct 13 2017, 02:11 PM) *

I'm just back from a trip to our house. House still there. Porsche both in garage and ok. All of my brush removal/fuel reduction efforts seem to be paying off. Fire has burned around most of the house on the ground but has not gotten into the tree canopies. I'll add some pics if I can figure out how to do that with my iPhone.


Thoughts and prayers, my friend...
ChrisFoley
QUOTE(napasteve @ Oct 13 2017, 05:11 PM) *

I'm just back from a trip to our house. House still there. Porsches both in garage and ok. All of my brush removal/fuel reduction efforts seem to be paying off. Fire has burned around most of the house on the ground but has not gotten into the tree canopies. I'll add some pics if I can figure out how to do that with my iPhone. EDIT: I'm too dumb to post pics from my iPhone. Strong north winds forecast for tonight are worrying. We're still hoping for the best.

Thank you for that update. The map I've been watching shows fire all around you.
ConeDodger
Steve, I didn't realize. You must live along the Oakville Grade? I have friends that lived on the Sonoma side and had a vinyard and winery. Just recently sold their property. The Spann's.
If you need anything let me know. I'll be down tomorrow. If the road is still passable, we could put your cars down at my shop.
tygaboy
Steve just called. He was able to get up to his place (I'll let him fill you in on how he was able to do that!) and get some pics. He asked that I help get them posted.

So, here's yesterday (Thurs) morning looking north from the top of his property
tygaboy
The arrow is pointing to Steve's home.
tygaboy
Yesterday (Thurs) shot from the ridge top about 1.5 miles NW of them. Same as the last pic.

Bomber dropping retardant.
tygaboy
Radar site that lets you real-time track air traffic. This is the spotter plane path that circled Steve's place for hours on Thurs.
tygaboy
Tanker drop just south of Steve.
tygaboy
This is Steve's place, Thurs ~ 6:00 PM. The fire has burned the ground fuel but, thankfully, didn't get into the canopy. Yes, this was extinguished after the pic was taken.
tygaboy
300 feet down the driveway from Steve's house. Ground burned, trees not.
tygaboy
9:00 this morning...
tygaboy
Remains of a 3000 gal water tank.
tygaboy
Another from this morning. Sprinklers aimed at the house.
ValcoOscar
Steve-

Pictures speak volumes...you are very fortunate.

Best of luck to all northern cal teeners.

All of you are in our prayers.

Oscar
Tjmrfe
QUOTE(davehg @ Oct 12 2017, 11:50 AM) *

The devastation in Napa, Sonoma, and Santa Rosa is disheartening. So many objects acquired over a lifetime consumed in seconds. Rebuilding will be painful and hopefully financially you will be covered.

I spent the day yesterday with a good friend, a car designer and co-founder of the RGruppe, and we were looking at some amazing 914-6s. When I heard about some of the cars he had owned and sold, my initial thought was "how could bring yourself to part with these?" His answer may help you find peace here - he said that he considers the journey to be far more important than the objects. He describes the cars he's owned and parted with as a series of great experiences, and when he's done with the experience, it's time to move on to new ones, which keeps him excited and engaged. (That also explained why we found ourselves in a garage in rural WA looking at a slightly decrepit Austin Healy Sprite to consider).

When I think back on the cars I've owned and regretted selling/crashing etc, I'm at peace when I think of my friend's perspective. What I've enjoyed more than owning them is experiencing them. However they leave my life, the experiences (and the friendships and discoveries) are the best part of the journey.

Yes, the fire burnt your possessions but it didn't consume your journey or your experience - it just created the opportunity to find a new experience. Hopefully that will bring you some added optimism especially as you and your neighbors are surrounded by devastation.

Toasting not your loss but the beginning of your next journey!


Well said, brother....
There is peace in that reality.
As for our brothers ordeal....
What’s real is the sense of loss, So we will support you in a shared empathy. Know that collectively we feel your despair and share our heartfelt condolences. I believe with the strength you’ve already exhibited here, you and your family will be ok. Share, With us your journey to the new place and we will applaud you and be inspired by that.
Peace to you and your family.
napasteve
Thx Chris for posting pics for me. Tonight's winds will test our fortune..... thx Rob for the offer but it's way too scary to go there now.
PanelBilly
Just stay safe.
MartyYeoman
Good luck with the winds tonight Steve. Please do post in the morning how you faired.
napasteve
It might be a while before we know anything but I will post as info comes in.
Ed_Turbo
QUOTE(MrKona @ Oct 10 2017, 09:08 PM) *

Hey All,

I haven't been around as much these past few years as other life priorities drew my attention away from the 914. But it was always patiently awaiting my return - Until yesterday, when my house in Santa Rosa was destroyed by the Stubbs fire. The 914, along with my '88 Scirocco are no more.

In the big scheme of life, it's just stuff. My family is safe - and that is what matters most. But like all of you, I poured my heart and countless hours into this car - I knew it inside and out. And my tools... it took me years to acquire and restore many of them. All that effort equates not just to "stuff", but rather, it's a reflection of who we are and what we know how to do. I held it together until I saw the garage remains.

It'll be a long time before life settles back to normal; but one day, I can only hope I find another project that will give me as much satisfaction as did my 914.

- Bryan


I would probably cry dude. Love my cars more than anything 212.gif

My condolences man. Tough to recooperate after a disaster like that for a homeowner.
somd914
Lived in Idaho for a short while and experienced range fires up close, but nothing like these. As others have said, those affected and posting here are safe and will rebuild, however it is still an emotionally difficult road.

I've never lost a house or worldly possessions, but I have been through a few traumatic times, but in the end I realized there were silver linings. In those cases it was the outpouring of assistance from friends and strangers, and rebuilding old friendships along with forming new friendships from those who assisted.

Best of luck to all of you, and also to those who suffered losses from this devastating hurricane season.
tygaboy
Pics just in from Steve. These are just south of his place.
He thinks their house is still there and they may have some eye witness info soon.
Thoughts and prayer and fingers crossed...
napasteve
Thx Chris for posting the pics. There's quite an air show going on just south of us. Sikorsky Skycrane sucks up 3500 gallons of water from an irrigation pond in 15 seconds. Getting real on the ridge top.
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