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dr914@autoatlanta.com
They are misguided.

Although I personally think that 914s are worth more than any other car in my delusion, a car that has had a hundred holes bored into it and filled with tar is not worth 100 grand. I would value this car at 50 max. Any more than that and the person purchasing does not know what they are looking at, having no idea of the value


QUOTE(mmascari @ Feb 24 2018, 02:30 PM) *
GeorgeRud
It’ll be interesting to see what happens at the auction. If you have a couple of bidders that want something different (and have had a few adult beverages to loosen their wallets), it might get a fair price with the Brumos name.
SKL1
Yeah it's too bad that car was originally Ziebarted... too bad we didn't know more way back when.
Steve
Love the comments!! Someone compared our cars to a rotary phone versus a new Porsche would be a smart phone. You would have to be one hell of a collector with money to burn to throw away a 100k on a rotary phone.
horizontally-opposed
Did I miss it, or did the piece sort of skip so many incredible sale prices for 914-4 vehicles at auction on the way to "struggled to surpass $15,000" comment? Also, we've seen good 914-6 vehicles go well over $70k.

Now, do I think this is a $100k 914-4? Personally, no. But then, a certain yeller big-bumpered 1.8 caught me off guard...and I'd rather have this than that. YMMV.
EdwardBlume
Car and Driver's writer standards have dropped, maybe their editing standards too. Someone needs teach them about 914s or better yet, show them how to ask someone that knows.

Sure, its a Brumos car, but even if it were Charo's personal gucci gucci car, that would only take the car up so far....

This is pure hype.

Look on the bright side, maybe if it goes for $125K or so, all of those BHCC cars on eBay will start moving!
carr914
I do not remember Ever seeing that car at Brumos! And I went thru their Museum every few months in the 2000s
Cal
QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 24 2018, 04:47 PM) *

They are misguided.

Although I personally think that 914s are worth more than any other car in my delusion, a car that has had a hundred holes bored into it and filled with tar is not worth 100 grand. I would value this car at 50 max. Any more than that and the person purchasing does not know what they are looking at, having no idea of the value


QUOTE(mmascari @ Feb 24 2018, 02:30 PM) *



I'm not sure the rust proofing treatment is going to effect the value of this car....it was very common back in the day. I've seen million dollar vintage cars with the same treatment and it hasn't affected their value.

mepstein
I remember going to the mall with my father and stopping at a Ziebart booth. My dad was interested until the salesman told him they would drill 100 1/2” holes in his Jaguar.

The white ‘75 that I found just 2 miles from my house was a one owner car that was Ziebarted. It had 100 holes with black plastic plugs all throughout the car. Nothing could stop it from rusting while it was left outside in a dirt lot for 4 years. What I found funny is they had drilled a hole in the bottom door sill where the rear fender starts. There is no cavity there, it’s just one layer. So it was a hole to a wide open space. It must have been a spot on the chart so the tech made the hole even though the back of the fender was wide open. chair.gif
ConeDodger
The R&T article is much better writing.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/cl...socialflowFBRAT
Pursang
...and here's another thing, the mileage is so low that it adds to the value of the car but practically guarantees that whomever buys the car will keep it as a garage queen, probably not accumulating another 5000 miles before hell freezes over. blink.gif
struckn
Interesting but who cares. I got mine and you got yours, and those who never owned one will never get what the 914 is all about. Also, people try to compare the 914 to more modern cars which is a stupid comparison, IMO.

Some of us love the old feel of how things use to be when cars had to be driven verses the new cars which are boring, over designed and engineered. Two different Worlds.

Didn't Jerry Seinfeld keep his and sell the rest. Leno loves the 914s also.
dcheek
In my opinion this sale is going to set the bar for 4 cylinder 914's moving forward. The fact that there has been so much chatter on the internet and publications is fueling the fire. I guess you could chalk that up to good marketing on the part of Gooding, or that low mileage original 914's are really rare. Either way I think we are going to see a record here.

This car has a lot going for it; color, mileage and being a 2 liter are just a few. Doesn't hurt to throw the Brumos name in there even though it has no racing history. Add that Gooding attracts the high rollers and a BIG Porsche turnout at Amelia, and you have the perfect storm to blow away the numbers.

Again IMHO.

Dave


Cal
QUOTE(dcheek @ Feb 25 2018, 05:00 PM) *

In my opinion this sale is going to set the bar for 4 cylinder 914's moving forward. The fact that there has been so much chatter on the internet and publications is fueling the fire. I guess you could chalk that up to good marketing on the part of Gooding, or that low mileage original 914's are really rare. Either way I think we are going to see a record here.

This car has a lot going for it; color, mileage and being a 2 liter are just a few. Doesn't hurt to throw the Brumos name in there even though it has no racing history. Add that Gooding attracts the high rollers and a BIG Porsche turnout at Amelia, and you have the perfect storm to blow away the numbers.

Again IMHO.

Dave


I agree.....this should bring big money from a collector. It's interesting to see how the values are climbing for high end cars....here's what hagerty values a '74 2.0L.
914_7T3
QUOTE(Cal @ Feb 25 2018, 03:47 PM) *

QUOTE(dcheek @ Feb 25 2018, 05:00 PM) *

In my opinion this sale is going to set the bar for 4 cylinder 914's moving forward. The fact that there has been so much chatter on the internet and publications is fueling the fire. I guess you could chalk that up to good marketing on the part of Gooding, or that low mileage original 914's are really rare. Either way I think we are going to see a record here.

This car has a lot going for it; color, mileage and being a 2 liter are just a few. Doesn't hurt to throw the Brumos name in there even though it has no racing history. Add that Gooding attracts the high rollers and a BIG Porsche turnout at Amelia, and you have the perfect storm to blow away the numbers.

Again IMHO.

Dave


I agree.....this should bring big money from a collector. It's interesting to see how the values are climbing for high end cars....here's what hagerty values a '74 2.0L.


Holy Shiz, when did that happen??? The #1 Concours '73 & '74 2.0 cars were $34K 60 days ago. I guess these are considered real Porsches now.




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dcheek
QUOTE(914 7T3 @ Feb 25 2018, 04:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Cal @ Feb 25 2018, 03:47 PM) *

QUOTE(dcheek @ Feb 25 2018, 05:00 PM) *

In my opinion this sale is going to set the bar for 4 cylinder 914's moving forward. The fact that there has been so much chatter on the internet and publications is fueling the fire. I guess you could chalk that up to good marketing on the part of Gooding, or that low mileage original 914's are really rare. Either way I think we are going to see a record here.

This car has a lot going for it; color, mileage and being a 2 liter are just a few. Doesn't hurt to throw the Brumos name in there even though it has no racing history. Add that Gooding attracts the high rollers and a BIG Porsche turnout at Amelia, and you have the perfect storm to blow away the numbers.

Again IMHO.

Dave


I agree.....this should bring big money from a collector. It's interesting to see how the values are climbing for high end cars....here's what hagerty values a '74 2.0L.


Holy Shiz, when did that happen??? The #1 Concours '73 & '74 2.0 cars were $34K 60 days ago. I guess these are considered real Porsches now.




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What happened? What's happening is that people are waking up and realizing what a wonderful sports car it is. It's long overdue.

Dave
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