Moose01
Jun 1 2018, 09:28 AM
Hello,
After years of looking at the horrible wood added to my dash face I ripped it all off! The radio plate is or was damaged, its old a cracked. I removed the metal face plate and ordered a new "one" from a vendor. I have the correct material as well, all good right? ...
I managed to remove all of the switches, not sure if I can actually reinstall them. However I cannot get the lighter out! I did remove the wiring which was a ****! The lighter is now "free", hanging in the hole, but I cannot get it out of the dash. I cut the old face plate off!
How can I get the lighter housing out and then reinstall? There must be something simple I am missing??
Also the small "handle" for the glove box door is missing, any idea where I can get another one? I have tried the usual suspects for parts to no avail. I might just make one.
Thanks Chris
Any other 14 guys in Houston?
gcrotvik
Jun 1 2018, 09:56 AM
In the early cars, the lighter has a flat metal retaining spring(ish) clip that slides up tight to the back side of the dash. It's a bitch to get off. In the late cars (74 or so) the lighter has a spring that slides down the outside of the lighter tube and has a clip holding the spring in place near where the hot/ground leads connect. Turn the clip until it unlatches and slides off, releasing the spring and the lighter tube.
Matty900
Jun 1 2018, 10:30 AM
I took lots of photos of the whole removal and re installing new dash face metal on my 72. Let me know if you need anything. I will get them into a dropbox for you. Just send me a pm
Moose01
Jun 1 2018, 03:28 PM
QUOTE(Matty900 @ Jun 1 2018, 11:30 PM)
I took lots of photos of the whole removal and re installing new dash face metal on my 72. Let me know if you need anything. I will get them into a dropbox for you. Just send me a pm
A few pics would be great! PM on the way.
Chris.Carbaugh@Stena.com
Moose01
Jun 1 2018, 03:28 PM
QUOTE(gcrotvik @ Jun 1 2018, 10:56 PM)
In the early cars, the lighter has a flat metal retaining spring(ish) clip that slides up tight to the back side of the dash. It's a bitch to get off. In the late cars (74 or so) the lighter has a spring that slides down the outside of the lighter tube and has a clip holding the spring in place near where the hot/ground leads connect. Turn the clip until it unlatches and slides off, releasing the spring and the lighter tube.
That is exactly what I need and makes perfect sense. I have a early car! Thanks!!
worn
Jun 1 2018, 04:03 PM
QUOTE(Moose01 @ Jun 1 2018, 02:28 PM)
QUOTE(gcrotvik @ Jun 1 2018, 10:56 PM)
In the early cars, the lighter has a flat metal retaining spring(ish) clip that slides up tight to the back side of the dash. It's a bitch to get off. In the late cars (74 or so) the lighter has a spring that slides down the outside of the lighter tube and has a clip holding the spring in place near where the hot/ground leads connect. Turn the clip until it unlatches and slides off, releasing the spring and the lighter tube.
That is exactly what I need and makes perfect sense. I have a early car! Thanks!!
It is a sonbisch. You can try to cut the ring with diagonal cutters. Try to avoid the plasma torch unless you really need it. Good luck!
jcd914
Jun 1 2018, 05:29 PM
I used a 4 1/2 inch grinder with a cut-off disc to cut the retaining clip/spring/ring.
Of course my dash frame was sitting on a table in my back yard at the time..
Jim
HansJan
Jun 2 2018, 04:39 PM
QUOTE
Any other 14 guys in Houston?
I'm in Sugar Land, but do not have the knowledge you need.
xperu
Jun 3 2018, 01:45 PM
QUOTE(Hans Jan @ Jun 2 2018, 05:39 PM)
QUOTE
Any other 14 guys in Houston?
I'm in Sugar Land, but do not have the knowledge you need.
I am in League City just off I-45 and FM 646, 20 miles north of Galveston. Mike
xperu
Jun 3 2018, 01:48 PM
QUOTE(Moose01 @ Jun 1 2018, 10:28 AM)
Hello,
After years of looking at the horrible wood added to my dash face I ripped it all off! The radio plate is or was damaged, its old a cracked. I removed the metal face plate and ordered a new "one" from a vendor. I have the correct material as well, all good right? ...
I managed to remove all of the switches, not sure if I can actually reinstall them. However I cannot get the lighter out! I did remove the wiring which was a ****! The lighter is now "free", hanging in the hole, but I cannot get it out of the dash. I cut the old face plate off!
How can I get the lighter housing out and then reinstall? There must be something simple I am missing??
Also the small "handle" for the glove box door is missing, any idea where I can get another one? I have tried the usual suspects for parts to no avail. I might just make one.
Thanks Chris
Any other 14 guys in Houston?
I am in League City just off I-45 and FM 646, 20 miles north of Galveston. Mike
gandalf_025
Jun 3 2018, 02:06 PM
I’d like to see a picture Of the “Horrible Wood Dash” that was on
your car.... I have an ”Amco” Wooden Dash that was installed by
the dealer when my car was new and I could never see the car
being without it..
porschetub
Jun 3 2018, 03:50 PM
I'am glad I had no lighter then ,PO removed it I presume its where my fuel gauge is now
.
I really hate working behind the dash excess is pretty crap to most things.
Moose01
Jun 4 2018, 11:37 AM
The picture solved the riddle for me. I forced it off, gently. I managed to save and reuse the retaining ring. I have an early 6. I then remounted the lighter by using it on the back side of the face plate vice the dash. I pulled the wires through the dash, reconnected and then installed the whole unit on to the dash with double stick tape, as per the factory. The left side was a b***h, I removed the fuse block and snaked my hand up to the backside of the dash for the light switch install. It all just worked. I am pleased with the result.
As for the wood grain dash, it could have very well been added by the dealer. I have had the car for 8 years and the previous owner something like 20 years and I know he did not add it.
send me an email at Christophercarbaugh@gmail.com and I will track down a photo. I think I have one of the old dash.
Thanks for the help Chris
BTW, I am close to downtown. I would goto one of the PCA car weekend coffee sessions if another 914 wants to show up!
gandalf_025
Jun 4 2018, 12:36 PM
Chris
Here is a picture of the dash removed from my car.
It will be going back once the car is put back together.
The script on the glove box door was added by a friend years ago.
This has been with the car since delivered.
I've seen 2, 914-6 and 1, 914-4 copies of this.
Click to view attachment
Moose01
Jun 4 2018, 02:51 PM
I took the wood off a few years ago. But it looked very similar. I can't say it was the same. I don't have any of the pieces left
Moose01
Jun 18 2018, 08:36 AM
I finally managed to complete the dash. I was disappointed in the repro Radio face plate. I therefore cut out the radio bezel from the old original unit with a bandsaw. Then I took a spare new repro part and carefully removed the bezel with a Dremel tool. I then refitted the radio and the face plate. Once the radio was centered I used epoxy to mount the old bezel within the frame of the new repro part. It took me the better part of a night to do this. Another reason why restoration can be a costly process. I believe the inclusion of the original, worn bezel looks so much better.
I then buffed the very old and tired paint with my new Rupes RA polisher! What a difference, another story.
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