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michael7810
Just ordered...add me as #9. Jsaum can have the honor of being #10
Beebo Kanelle
Done!
jsaum
Ok just placed my order so I should be #10. Can’t wait to get it going on the new 1911 motor!
Ron65
QUOTE(jsaum @ Feb 16 2019, 08:59 PM) *

Ok just placed my order so I should be #10. Can’t wait to get it going on the new 1911 motor!




Not sure how to post but just to make sure another one got ordered tonight!!
Porschef
QUOTE(Ron65 @ Feb 16 2019, 09:59 PM) *

QUOTE(jsaum @ Feb 16 2019, 08:59 PM) *

Ok just placed my order so I should be #10. Can’t wait to get it going on the new 1911 motor!




Not sure how to post but just to make sure another one got ordered tonight!!




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123ignitionusa
Ok Guys
Way to Go! smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif Official count is 12. Orders after 1782 will automatically be processed with a 10% discount. All current orders will begin to be processed for shipment as quickly as possible. If you get a follow up email as pending, your order is going to be delayed, but rest assured it will get to you in a timely manner. I will check back in from time to time on this forum so that we can field any questions you may have. Or simply PM me for a quicker response.
Thanks so much
Ed
mobymutt
I'm jealous, I have to make a trip across the border to pick mine up.

And I hope I don't fry it, or my wife will shoot me... somebody please document the install!!!

Also, thanks to everyone for joining in!


QUOTE(914Sixer @ Feb 16 2019, 04:24 PM) *

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settador
Hi Folks,

I'll order one, or perhaps two, on Monday. I do have some questions for you all, however, because I'm not entirely sure which one(s).

Some of the 356 guys think these are terrific too, and say the vacuum model is best. If I recall correctly, the vacuum line comes off the insulator between the carb and manifold below the throttle plate like some year 912s from the factory, implying initial advance is actuated by a decrease in manifold pressure. In other words, the vacuum line retards the timing when in full force, yes?

I ask because I intend to build a 2056 out of a GA motor I have to replace my tired 1.8. I also have a pair of Weber 40s I intend to use for that build. If I go with a vacuum model, are there insulators/spacers with vacuum ports available for Weber 40s? If not, has anyone made their own? How great is the performance advantage of the vacuum model over the mechanical only model? I imagine the initial response off idle may be significant.

I've read through the previous threads, but I'm still not entirely clear.

Thanks, Dan
jesse7flying
Got mine yesterday and my 10% refund today. Thanks to Ed and Mobymutt for setting up the sale!
914Sixer
Checked my mail this morning and I had the 10% refund too. Thanks Ed. biggrin.gif
Amphicar770
Got my dizzy and my refund as well. Always a pleasure dealing with stand up suppliers who offer a quality product.
123ignitionusa
Just an update for the 914 World on the GB.
All refunds have been processed and settled to your form of payment and or cc. And all orders placed now are getting an immediate 10% discount. I am placing an order tomorrow in order to get everybody their units in a timely manner. It usually takes 7 to 10 days to get them from over the pond. Then we will ship them directly to you.
Thanks again for the opportunity to serve the 914 World enthusiasts. Your a great group.
Hope this helps
Ed
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123ignitionusa
This looks like as good a place as any to add a few sample screenshots for those that get the programmable units. And to mention that the IE models come with both vacuum advance and vacuum retard curves to select from.
Pic #1 Vacuum advance
Pic #2 Vacuum retard
Pic #3 No Vacuum
Pic #4 Shows how to wire it up when using MSD

Hope this helps
Ed


QUOTE(settador @ Feb 17 2019, 10:04 AM) *

Hi Folks,

I'll order one, or perhaps two, on Monday. I do have some questions for you all, however, because I'm not entirely sure which one(s).

Some of the 356 guys think these are terrific too, and say the vacuum model is best. If I recall correctly, the vacuum line comes off the insulator between the carb and manifold below the throttle plate like some year 912s from the factory, implying initial advance is actuated by a decrease in manifold pressure. In other words, the vacuum line retards the timing when in full force, yes?

I ask because I intend to build a 2056 out of a GA motor I have to replace my tired 1.8. I also have a pair of Weber 40s I intend to use for that build. If I go with a vacuum model, are there insulators/spacers with vacuum ports available for Weber 40s? If not, has anyone made their own? How great is the performance advantage of the vacuum model over the mechanical only model? I imagine the initial response off idle may be significant.

I've read through the previous threads, but I'm still not entirely clear.

Thanks, Dan

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mmichalik
I got my 5% refund for a total of 10% off. Thanks for following up on that Ed.
123ignitionusa
QUOTE(mmichalik @ Feb 18 2019, 06:59 PM) *

I got my 5% refund for a total of 10% off. Thanks for following up on that Ed.


I am glad to help and appreciate the opportunity to bring theses fine distributors to your community. Everybody should be up to date now. All orders will be shipped out late next week. This runs for a month so tell your friends on other Porsche Forums to use the code.
However it does not apply to any other Marque than Porsche and VW. Enjoy!
settador
Thanks Ed,

The conversation yesterday re. vacuum was clarifying. Ordered two--one of each!

Dan
Prorallye
Will order one later today.
HansJan
Installation video part 1 and 2

https://youtu.be/rw1FigYoozE
https://youtu.be/tYGX5B8Yj58
buck toenges
Nice to see but I felt I was watching an episode of "the man in the high castle".
Porschef
Yep, it’s as easy as “Einz, Zwei, Drei!”

My German was never that good..,

https://youtu.be/L6fxTgKctz8
123ignitionusa
Hey Guys and Gals
All the orders are in the mail 2/26/19. The Special will run until March 12th.
Thanks and have a great driving season.
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Porschef
Thanks Ed. Looking forward to it.

Glad I didn’t snag my ballsack hopping off the fence... laugh.gif
Ron65
Received my 123 today! Thank you to Ed at 123 for the discount and making the product available and thank you to Mobymutt for setting up the GB. Can't wait to put this in the 71. Am sure the original distributor is pretty tired after spinning around for over 45 years and feel this may be the best upgrade I could have done for it. Ron
123ignitionusa
Just a bump to remind anyone interested this will expire on the 12th
Thank You
Ed
michael7810
Did someone, or could some post a link to an installation and tuning video (in English). Thanks
jim_hoyland
QUOTE(123ignitionusa @ Mar 10 2019, 05:12 PM) *

Just a bump to remind anyone interested this will expire on the 12th
Thank You
Ed

I know I’m two days late for the discount; can I place my order today and take the discount ?
123ignitionusa
This is a great group of enthusiasts. I will extend the discount until a week from today. March 24th 2019
Hope this helps
Ed

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 15 2019, 04:58 PM) *

QUOTE(123ignitionusa @ Mar 10 2019, 05:12 PM) *

Just a bump to remind anyone interested this will expire on the 12th
Thank You
Ed

I know I’m two days late for the discount; can I place my order today and take the discount ?

jim_hoyland
Just placed my order; hard to tell whether it went through. Should I have received an e-mail confirmation tried a second time: When I Pay at checkout, the screen closes out . My cart still shows one item in it.
I’ll try again later...
123ignitionusa
914GB19

Here you go.

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 17 2019, 09:04 PM) *

Just placed my order; hard to tell whether it went through. Should I have received an e-mail confirmation tried a second time: When I Pay at checkout, the screen closes out . My cart still shows one item in it.
I’ll try again later...

jim_hoyland
Tried the code each time too...
Tried PP first two times; then tried using a CC.
No dice
123ignitionusa
Sounds like a Paypal issue. Give them a call.

As for the CC the billing address for the cc did not match.

Hope this helps
Ed

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 17 2019, 10:40 PM) *

Tried the code each time too...
Tried PP first two times; then tried using a CC.
No dice

jim_hoyland
Big thanks to Ed at 1-2-3; talked with him directly and got my order in.
Great service !
HansJan
QUOTE(123ignitionusa @ Feb 17 2019, 06:45 PM) *

This looks like as good a place as any to add a few sample screenshots for those that get the programmable units. And to mention that the IE models come with both vacuum advance and vacuum retard curves to select from.
Pic #1 Vacuum advance
Pic #2 Vacuum retard
Pic #3 No Vacuum
Pic #4 Shows how to wire it up when using MSD

Hope this helps
Ed


QUOTE(settador @ Feb 17 2019, 10:04 AM) *

Hi Folks,

I'll order one, or perhaps two, on Monday. I do have some questions for you all, however, because I'm not entirely sure which one(s).

Some of the 356 guys think these are terrific too, and say the vacuum model is best. If I recall correctly, the vacuum line comes off the insulator between the carb and manifold below the throttle plate like some year 912s from the factory, implying initial advance is actuated by a decrease in manifold pressure. In other words, the vacuum line retards the timing when in full force, yes?

I ask because I intend to build a 2056 out of a GA motor I have to replace my tired 1.8. I also have a pair of Weber 40s I intend to use for that build. If I go with a vacuum model, are there insulators/spacers with vacuum ports available for Weber 40s? If not, has anyone made their own? How great is the performance advantage of the vacuum model over the mechanical only model? I imagine the initial response off idle may be significant.

I've read through the previous threads, but I'm still not entirely clear.

Thanks, Dan

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Ed,
I have installed the 123 distributor (Bluetooth model).
There is no vacuum hose coming from the carburetors.
What do I do with the vacuum port on your distributor?

Additionally: Do you have recommended setpoints for this carbed 914?
settador
The following thread has a very helpful write up regarding vacuum advance. It helps explain the graphs Ed posted in response to my query. I checked my Webers for vacuum ports and fortunately they are there. Ed also offered a good explanation via telephone. I haven't installed either distributor as I haven't built either engine yet, so I can't offer anything further at this time. Hope the link helps.

Dan

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=162620
914-300Hemi
I know that I missed the group by but after fiddling with my dizzy. I finally broke down and ordered one.
914_teener
QUOTE(settador @ Mar 21 2019, 04:37 PM) *

The following thread has a very helpful write up regarding vacuum advance. It helps explain the graphs Ed posted in response to my query. I checked my Webers for vacuum ports and fortunately they are there. Ed also offered a good explanation via telephone. I haven't installed either distributor as I haven't built either engine yet, so I can't offer anything further at this time. Hope the link helps.

Dan

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=162620



Yep....saw that thread a while back.

Pay close attention in that for a stock FI 914 and depending on what year they had both manifold and ported vaccum for the dizzy pot.


When I did my 73 is used ported for the vaccum advance and the car performed flawlessly.

I know that this subject keeps coming up even though the manual that is provided specifies what to use for which setting. This is on the D-jet system that I know.

Still it is a good read and loosely defines the history of why and how it is used.
michael7810
I installed the Bluetooth unit on my 1911cc, webcam, dual IDF 40s s week. Took a couple days to get it sorted out as I had a few DAO-induced problems. Took it for a drive and head temps seemed to run cooler than usual on this particular drive but I may have been taking it easy. Very happy with the way the car runs and features of the distributor. Here’s what I learned:
1. The 123 wires up to MSD ignition exactly like the old Pertronix unit
2. MSD Blaster 2 coil resistance is too low (<1 Ohm). I installed a new Bosch blue coil
3. There are 10 video tutorials on the 123 website. I found them very helpful for my understanding how it works.
4. You can only change the curves with the ignition ON and engine NOT running
5. You can see what the unit is doing and make temporary advance changes via the Tune feature with the engin running
6. Follow the manual for paring the unit to your device the first time. Once pared here’s how to use it
6a. Turn ignition on first then open the App if you want to change curves. You can start the car after changing the curves without cycling power or reopening the App. Change the curves per the manual but when you are finished hit DONE and then WRITE or the 123 will not see the new data. If you futz with the curves and want to go back to what you started with hit DONE and then READ and the App will display what is stored in the 123
6b. Start engine first then open App if you want to drive and use the Tune feature.
7. When you open the App, make sure it connects AND reads the distributor data. You’ll see it on the App when connecting/reading.
8. To use Tune, hit Tune on the dashboard screen and use the arrows to advance or retard up to 10 degrees. This shifts the entire curve, kinda like changing the basic timing from, in my case from TDC to +/- 10 degrees. The Tune data is not stored in the 123. Once you hit TUNE again to get out of tune mode your changes disappear.
9. My curves are below. I set my timing to TDC and use the 123 to set the advance
10. Be careful handling your phone when the dashboard is open. I accidentally got into TUNE mode and retarded my timing 10 degrees TWICE during a 90 minute drive. I highly recommend a copilot to operate the device while driving.
I’m sure there’s more. If I think of anything else I’ll edit this post.
Cheers
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