> > Subject: Dust Off air cans - deadly phenomenom among teens
> >
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Our good friend, Constable Greg Falcon in Port Lavaca sent this in
> > and it is worth reading, sad too, something we in law enforcement
> > and parents should be aware of. Snopes.com, the internet mythbusting
> > website confirms this incident and problem. The snopes.com weblink
> > is at the end
> > below:
> >
> > Subject: FW: concern for kids
> >
> > A must read for anyone with kids or grandkids...
> > First I'm going to tell you a little about me and my family.
> > My name is Jeff. I am a Police Officer for a city which is known
> > nationwide for its crime rate.
> >
> > We have a lot of gangs and drugs.
> > At one point we were # 2 in the nation in homicides per capita. I
> > also have a police K-9 named Thor. He was certified in drugs and
> > general duty. He retired at 3 years old because he was shot in the line of duty.
> > He lives with us now and I still train with him because he likes it.
> > I always liked the fact that there was no way to bring drugs into my
> > house. Thor wouldn't allow it. He would tell on you. The reason I
> > say this is so you understand that I know about drugs. I have taught
> > in schools about drugs. My wife asks all our kids at least once a
> > week if they used any drugs. Makes them promise they wont. My wife
> > Kathy is a nurse and we have 3 children. Kyle was the oldest at 14.
> > The other two are 12 and 13 years of age. Kyle loved football and
> > played for his school. I went to every one of his games. He didn't
> > always play much since it was his first year but I didn't care. He
> > also loved playing games on his computer or his play station. When
> > World of Warcraft was coming out in a beta version he signed up like
> > 200 times to be a beta tester for it. If you were picked you got a
> > number and could go to the site and download it. Well, Kyle signed
> > up so many times he received 2 numbers. He then posted one on EBay and sold it for $375.00 dollars.
> > Unbelievable for a 2 or 3 month beta test. He then contacted a
> > losing bidder from California (different time zone) and sold him the
> > 12 hours that he would be sleeping or in school for, for $100.00
> > dollars. They shared the log in code. Kyle had so much potential.
> > He could do anything he wanted to. I like building computers
> > occasionally, and started building a new one in February 2005. I
> > also was working on some of my older computers. They were full of
> > dust so on one of my trips to the computer store I bought a 3 pack
> > of DUST OFF. Dust Off is a can of compressed air to blow dust off a
> > computer. A few weeks later, when I went to use them, they were all
> > used. I talked to my kids and my 2 sons both said they had used them
> > on their computer and messing around with them. I yelled at them for
> > wasting the 10 dollars I paid for them. On February 28, I went back
> > to the computer store. They didn't have the 3 pack which I had
> > bought on sale so I bought a single jumbo can of Dust Off. I went
> > home and set it down beside my computer. On March 1st, I left for
> > work at 10:00 P.M. At 11:00 P.M. my wife went down and kissed Kyle
> > goodnight. At 5:30 A.M. the next morning, Kathy went downstairs to
> > wake Kyle up for school, before she left for work. He was sitting up
> > in bed with his legs crossed and his head leaning over. She called
> > to him a few times to get up. He didn't move. He would sometimes tease her like this and pretend he fell back asleep. He was never easy to get up.
> > She went in and shook his arm. He fell over. He was pale white and
> > had the straw from the Dust Off can coming out of his mouth. He had
> > the new can of Dust Off in his hands. Kyle was dead. I am a police
> > officer and I had never heard of this. My wife is a nurse and she
> > had never heard of this. We later found out from the coroner, after
> > the autopsy, that only the propellant from the can of Dust Off was
> > in his system. No other drugs. Kyle had died between midnight and 1:00 A.M.
> >
> > I found out that using Dust Off is being done mostly by kids ages 9
> > through 15. They even have a name for it. It's called dusting. A
> > take off from the Dust Off name. It gives them a slight high for
> > about 10 seconds. It makes them dizzy. A boy who lives down the
> > street from us showed Kyle how to do this about a month before.Kyle
> > showed his best friend. Told him it was cool and it couldn't hurt
> > you. It's just compressed air. It can't hurt you. His best friend
> > said no. Kyle was wrong. It's not just compressed air. It also
> > contains a propellant. I think it is R2. It's a refrigerant like
> > what is used in your refrigerator. It is a heavy gas. Heavier than
> > air. When you inhale it, it fills your lungs and keeps the good air,
> > with oxygen, out. That's why you feel dizzy, buzzed. It decreases
> > the oxygen to your brain, to your heart. Kyle was right. It cannot
> > hurt you. IT KILLS YOU. The horrible part about this is there is no
> > warning. There is no level that kills you. It's not cumulative or an
> > overdose; it can just go randomly, terribly wrong. Roll the dice and
> > if your number comes up you die. IT IS NOT AN OVERDOSE. It is
> > Russian roulette. You don't die later. Or not feel good and say
> > I've had too much. You usually die as your breathing it in. If not,
> > you die within 2 seconds of finishing "the hit." That's why the
> > straw was still in Kyle's mouth when he died. Why his eye's were still open.
> >
> > The experts want to call this huffing.
> > The kids don't believe its huffing.
> > As adults we tend to lump many things together.
> > But it doesn't fit here.
> > And that's why its more accepted.
> > There is no chemical reaction, no strong odor.
> > It doesn't follow the huffing signals.
> > Kyle complained a few days before he died of his tongue hurting. It
> > probably did. The propellant causes frostbite. If I had only known.
> > Its easy to say hey, its my life and I'll do what I want. But it isn't.
> > Others are always affected. This has forever changed our family's life.
> > I have a hole in my heart and soul that can never be fixed. The pain
> > is so immense I can't describe it. There's nowhere to run from it. I
> > cry all the time and I don't ever cry. I do what I'm supposed to do,
> > but I don't really care. My kids are messed up. One won't talk
> > about it. The other will only sleep in our room at night. And my
> > wife, I can't even describe how bad she is taking this. I thought we
> > were safe because of Thor. I thought we were safe because we knew
> > about drugs and talked to our kids about them. After Kyle died,
> > another story came out. A probation officer went to the school
> > system next to ours to speak with a student. While there, he found a student using Dust Off in the bathroom.
> > This student told him about another student who also had some in his
> > locker. This is a rather affluent school system. They will tell you
> > they don't have a drug problem there. They don't even have a DARE or
> > PLUS program there. So rather than tell everyone about this "new"
> > way of getting high they found, they hid it. The probation officer
> > told the media after Kyle's death and they, the school, then
> > admitted to it. I know that if they would have told the media and I
> > had heard, it wouldn't have been in my house. We need to get this
> > out of our homes and school computer labs. Using Dust Off isn't new
> > and some "professionals" do know about. It just isn't talked about
> > very much, except by the kids. They know about it. April 2nd was
> > one month since Kyle died. April 5th would have been his 15th
> > birthday. And every weekday, I catch myself sitting on the living
> > room couch at 2:30 in the afternoon and waiting to see him get off
> > the bus. I know Kyle is in heaven, but I can't help but wonder If I died and went to Hell.
> >
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > Snopes.com weblink:
> >
> > http://www.snopes.com/toxins/dustoff.asp

When I was in high school (OMG THAT WAS 20 YEARS AGO) a girl in my class died from doing this with freon. They would load up a garbage bag and stick their heads in for the same affect as what this guy describes. The entire school attended the funeral.

I'm told nitrous oxide can do the same...

Unfortunately, for once something you read about on the internet is NOT an urban legend. About.com Urban Legend report about this

QUOTE (Neo914 @ Jun 23 2005, 10:29 PM)

I'm told nitrous oxide can do the same...

....no more huffing the whipping cream

I thought nitrous oxide was lighter than air so it could not displace all the oxygen inside your lungs.

Halon could do this as could a great number of inert gasses that are heavier than air.

OK I really have to rant on this one. I am sorry that old dude lost his son, but damn. People are so stupid. I guess this could be referred to as "thinning the gene pool". I understand that you want to be cool and not the odd man out, but get real. Kids are stupid as hell. I had a kid in high school die huffing and was more outraged that he did something like that than the fact that he died. I may be an insensitive ass with little to no compassion for others, how many kids have to die doing something retarded before they take responsibility for their actions. It was no ones fault, they made the decision on their own. (yes I know the author appeared to place no blame) People in general are pretty stupid when they put something into their body that doesn't belong there.

God made weed for a reason. It won't kill you. (unless you suffocate on it trying to swallow too much at one time)

We had a kid in my school die from spraying that cooking stuff Pam into a pellow case then breathing it. They told us it basicly coated his lungs and he sufficated

our baseball coach told the story of a kid that died huffing anti-freeze...

QUOTE

God made weed for a reason. It won't kill you.

No, it just induces imbalances in brain chemistry causing metal problems.
Screws with your Seratonin levels and production among other things.

Makes me laugh when i hear people say that weed cant hurt you.

Smoke up Johnny.

QUOTE (grantsfo @ Jun 24 2005, 02:37 AM)

QUOTE (Neo914 @ Jun 23 2005, 10:29 PM) I'm told nitrous oxide can do the same... ....no more huffing the whipping cream

QUOTE (Brett W @ Jun 24 2005, 09:27 AM)

OK I really have to rant on this one. I am sorry that old dude lost his son, but damn. People are so stupid. I guess this could be referred to as "thinning the gene pool". I understand that you want to be cool and not the odd man out, but get real. Kids are stupid as hell. I had a kid in high school die huffing and was more outraged that he did something like that than the fact that he died. I may be an insensitive ass with little to no compassion for others, how many kids have to die doing something retarded before they take responsibility for their actions. It was no ones fault, they made the decision on their own. (yes I know the author appeared to place no blame) People in general are pretty stupid when they put something into their body that doesn't belong there. God made weed for a reason. It won't kill you. (unless you suffocate on it trying to swallow too much at one time)

Rant well taken, and agreed.

I didn't make it this far on someone walking me around the pit falls... I made it this far on luck!


M

QUOTE (brer @ Jun 24 2005, 08:47 AM)

QUOTE God made weed for a reason. It won't kill you. No, it just induces imbalances in brain chemistry causing metal problems.

I just knew there was a reason for so many crazy people on this board!

and watchout water will kill ya and change brain chemistry too!

(February 2005), a college student died after drinking too much ... water.

"A Chico fraternity pledge died of water poisoning, authorities said Thursday as experts warned that the dangerous hazing ritual has killed at least one other person as fraternities are replacing alcohol bingeing with excessive water-drinking. ... Water bingeing is becoming an increasingly common hazing ritual, especially inside rogue frat houses such as Chi Tau, said Hank Nuwer of Indiana, a national expert on hazing and author of four books on the topic. ... '[T]hey think water is safer than alcohol, but it can also be deadly.' Forced water consumption and heavy exercise are known to dilute the salt content of blood to the point where it interferes with brain, heart and muscle function. Without enough sodium, the brain swells and victims can suffer fatal comas.... "
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...AGNSB576121.DTL

This is not an isolated incident.

"In March 2003, State University of New York freshman Walter Dean Jennings III was pledging a renegade fraternity that had also been expelled over drinking violations. He was forced to drink so many pitchers of water through a funnel that the sodium in his body dropped to lethal levels and his brain swelled. The autopsy confirmed he died of hyponatremia."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...AGNSB576121.DTL

Anything done to excess will kill you.

people sure do stupid things

QUOTE

Last month (February 2005), a college student died after drinking too much ... water.

happens here all the time... and not long ago a MARATHON runner died this way...

QUOTE (Brett W @ Jun 24 2005, 06:27 AM)

OK I really have to rant on this one. I am sorry that old dude lost his son, but damn. People are so stupid. I guess this could be referred to as "thinning the gene pool". I understand that you want to be cool and not the odd man out, but get real. Kids are stupid as hell. I had a kid in high school die huffing and was more outraged that he did something like that than the fact that he died. I may be an insensitive ass with little to no compassion for others, how many kids have to die doing something retarded before they take responsibility for their actions. It was no ones fault, they made the decision on their own. (yes I know the author appeared to place no blame) People in general are pretty stupid when they put something into their body that doesn't belong there.

i'm with you on this one.....you can only do so much to warn people......I was a kid once, I knew the dangers of sniffing paint or glue, had a kid in our scout club die from sniffing a rag with soaked with gas........... I was not stupid enough to try it........

I have a can of that stuff on my work bench at work. Huffing it is the last thing Im going to do. If you want to have fun, turn the can upside down and spray it, it turns everything frosty. Just dont spray your hands

QUOTE (ChrisReale @ Jun 24 2005, 01:38 PM)

I have a can of that stuff on my work bench at work. Huffing it is the last thing Im going to do. If you want to have fun, turn the can upside down and spray it, it turns everything frosty. Just dont spray your hands

Our anything else ....... MILES

QUOTE (Brett W @ Jun 24 2005, 05:27 AM)

OK I really have to rant on this one. I am sorry that old dude lost his son, but damn. People are so stupid. I guess this could be referred to as "thinning the gene pool". I understand that you want to be cool and not the odd man out, but get real. Kids are stupid as hell. I had a kid in high school die huffing and was more outraged that he did something like that than the fact that he died. I may be an insensitive ass with little to no compassion for others, how many kids have to die doing something retarded before they take responsibility for their actions. It was no ones fault, they made the decision on their own. (yes I know the author appeared to place no blame) People in general are pretty stupid when they put something into their body that doesn't belong there. God made weed for a reason. It won't kill you. (unless you suffocate on it trying to swallow too much at one time)

ive know someone who died from a whip it (aka nitrous oxide) at a rave....

QUOTE (Neo914 @ Jun 24 2005, 12:29 AM)

I'm told nitrous oxide can do the same...

Nitrous Oxide CAN do the same thing....my dad is a oral surgeon and i had druggie kids always wanting me to bring some Nitrous. If mixed right, it is a very affective antistetic (sp) but can be easily and dangerously abused.

QUOTE (ChrisReale @ Jun 24 2005, 11:38 AM)

I have a can of that stuff on my work bench at work. Huffing it is the last thing Im going to do. If you want to have fun, turn the can upside down and spray it, it turns everything frosty. Just dont spray your hands

yeah i do the same thing at work.....spray it on things. Like hot HOT processors...

QUOTE (brer @ Jun 24 2005, 08:47 AM)

QUOTE God made weed for a reason. It won't kill you. No, it just induces imbalances in brain chemistry causing metal problems. Screws with your Seratonin levels and production among other things. Makes me laugh when i hear people say that weed cant hurt you. Smoke up Johnny.

Uh..............forgot what I was going to say.

Andy

QUOTE (brer @ Jun 24 2005, 11:47 AM)

No, it just induces imbalances in brain chemistry causing metal problems.   Screws with your Seratonin levels and production among other things. Makes me laugh when i hear people say that weed cant hurt you. Smoke up Johnny.

Sorry bud,

That is a dramatic overstatement of the questionable conclusions from a DEA funded study that found some evidence of brain activity alteration in subjects under the age of 16 who consumed pot at a level that would place them in the estimated highest 1/10 of 1% of marijuana smokers. Further, all but 2 of those whom displayed brain chemistry changes had a confirmed family history of mental illness.

I have read the actual study, not just the just the synopsis exerpts that were released by the Department of Justice, which interestingly were sent out in a form that very few news outlets realized the press release had been produced by the Federal govermnent. If a pharmaceutical company submitted a study of the same size and quality, it would be summarily dismissed as meaningless. More than 20 major university studies have had their funding pulled by the goverment in the last 15 years because the clear trend in the data was to show no ill effects from marijuana use that fell within the normal range of standard deviations. This study is the first government funded study since 1990 that was allowed to reach publication. One would have to be rather naive to believe the cause and effect are not related. (BTW, I was involved in drug study review and approval for Hoffman LaRoche Pharmaceuticals in the mid 1990's, and I currently represent a client in an unrelated matter that requires me to keep informed on this issue. I am NOT advocating one way or the other.)

How many of us know people who are noticeably "slower" after years of marijuana use/abuse? I draw my conclusions from what I've seen and try not to rely on "official" reports. There is always a bias.

just my $.02

QUOTE (Mueller @ Jun 24 2005, 10:03 AM)

I was a kid once, I knew the dangers of sniffing paint or glue

don't underestimate the ability of kids to understand the dangers.
of course, that implies that someone educated them about said dangers ...

i grew up surrounded by people using drugs.
all the crap you can imagin (and some you can't).
i chose a lifestyle that put me right in the middle of it all.

and believe it or not, i *never* did any drugs in my life.
it's a choice, and you can help your kids making the right choice.

and i don't think "making them promise not to do drugs once a week" was the right approach ...
Andy

QUOTE (redshift @ Jun 24 2005, 08:53 AM)

QUOTE (grantsfo @ Jun 24 2005, 02:37 AM) QUOTE (Neo914 @ Jun 23 2005, 10:29 PM) I'm told nitrous oxide can do the same... ....no more huffing the whipping cream

Ok a little humor about this. A high school classmate was carefully sniffing the NO2 from a can of whip cream. You have to get the nozzle just right to ONLY get the gas. Anyway this guy starts gagging because the whip cream shot up his nose... and stopped his abuse.

All good candidates for a Darwin Award.

I hate to sound callous... but this is chlorine for the gene pool.

Had a boss once that would say.."Stupid people shouldn't breed"

(Improved version "Stupid people shouldn't breathe. Gets rid of them faster")

OK, enough with the gene pool BS. The kid was 14. Maybe you were all perfect at 14. I wasn't and I doubt too many others are. It's a damn shame these things happen and I really don't think I can even come close to what the relatives are thinking. For me it would be devastating at the very least. No parent should watch their kids die! I will be talking about this to my kid tonight. Enough said.

I think it's really sad....I feel very sorry for the siblings and parents.

QUOTE (Brett W @ Jun 24 2005, 05:27 AM)

I understand that you want to be cool and not the odd man out, but get real. Kids are stupid as hell.

I hanvt tried any drugs, and dont plan on it either...i guess im just weird (im 14 and cant drive, but im on a car forum ) but im just stupid cause im a kid....thanks

yeah man same here. no drugs and i'm just plain wierd. And yes i thought a engine swap would be easy too. Boy was I wrong!

Wow. You're all a bunch of heartless bastards! I can't believe you're going to put this on the 14 year old! There is no fucking way a 14 has enough sense to really know all the ramifications of his or her actions. Holy crap I can't believe what I'm hearing. If it were at all true that a 14 could actually have the wisdom / experience / risk-aversion / common-sense to make judgements like you guys are claiming they should be able to do then why the fuck don't we let them vote or drive or get married or drink or whatever... I'm so fucking shocked at your responses I don't know what to think! And who would have thought this was coming from the same people that mourned poor ^EASTON^ and his family!!! You should all be fucking ashamed of your cold, heartless, asshole selves!!!

Just to add a little scientific note.... I just heard recently (and yes I'm going to spend the next hour trying to find the reference) of a study that showed a particular immaturity in the brain of teenagers that actually affects their ability to judge risk. Holy crap I'm so pissed right now I can't even keep typing.

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Jun 24 2005, 07:49 PM)

yeah man same here. no drugs and i'm just plain wierd. And yes i thought a engine swap would be easy too. Boy was I wrong!

QUOTE (sgomes @ Jun 24 2005, 07:53 PM)

Wow. You're all a bunch of heartless bastards! I can't believe you're going to put this on the 14 year old! There is no fucking way a 14 has enough sense to really know all the ramifications of his or her actions. Holy crap I can't believe what I'm hearing. If it were at all true that a 14 could actually have the wisdom / experience / risk-aversion / common-sense to make judgements like you guys are claiming they should be able to do then why the fuck don't we let them vote or drive or get married or drink or whatever... I'm so fucking shocked at your responses I don't know what to think! And who would have thought this was coming from the same people that mourned poor ^EASTON^ and his family!!! You should all be fucking ashamed of your cold, heartless, asshole selves!!! Just to add a little scientific note.... I just heard recently (and yes I'm going to spend the next hour trying to find the reference) of a study that showed a particular immaturity in the brain of teenagers that actually affects their ability to judge risk. Holy crap I'm so pissed right now I can't even keep typing.

AMEN! lol this sounds like a church now....and the presidential elections...

Ok, found the first hit. It's not a great article but it is at least refering to what I'm talking about.

Time Magazine Article

Alright, Pandora's Box is open!!!!

All of us, AT THE VERY LEAST, one? time in our live's, has done something stupid.

But the STUPID people, do stupid over an cver.

As Forrest Gump Says: STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.

Like my kid, when he does something stupid, I ask him if he went to his Drug dealer? He says he doesn't use drugs, and I say you have to be getting those Stupid pills your taking from somebody

The thing about kids, it's bad enough they do stupid things, but what makes it worse, they do because of peer pressure, or because it's cool. So what can you do?

And it's a very sad thing, for parents to out live there kids.

I have 2, daughter 25 and a son 22, my daughter's great my son, I think he has and unexhaustable supply of stupid pills.

QUOTE

Wow. You're all a bunch of heartless bastards! I can't believe you're going to put this on the 14 year old! There is no fucking way a 14 has enough sense to really know all the ramifications of his or her actions. Holy crap I can't believe what I'm hearing. If it were at all true that a 14 could actually have the wisdom / experience / risk-aversion / common-sense to make judgements like you guys are claiming they should be able to do then why the fuck don't we let them vote or drive or get married or drink or whatever... I'm so fucking shocked at your responses I don't know what to think! And who would have thought this was coming from the same people that mourned poor ^EASTON^ and his family!!! You should all be fucking ashamed of your cold, heartless, asshole selves!!!

EASTON HAD NO CHOICE!

Yes I am going to put this on a 14 year old. When you grow up is a matter of your environment. If this kids parents or life situation demanded that he be responsible and had that from the day he was born, this MIGHT not have happened.

QUOTE

Just to add a little scientific note.... I just heard recently (and yes I'm going to spend the next hour trying to find the reference) of a study that showed a particular immaturity in the brain of teenagers that actually affects their ability to judge risk. Holy crap I'm so pissed right now I can't even keep typing.

Our society spends so much time looking for some sickness or something else to blame for a persons poor choices or judgement. This kid and all like him screwed up. Nobody put the can in his hand. Everyone warned him. If he has not seen the results of putting a foreign substance in your body by this age then he has lived a sheltered life and severely hindered in his personal development. It is time for this planet to start taking responsibility for it's personal mistakes. No one is to blame for someone elses lot in life. That is a crock.

QUOTE

Ok, found the first hit. It's not a great article but it is at least refering to what I'm talking about. Time Magazine Article]

This from a group that is trying to remove the personal responsibilty from murder. Losing credibility as they speak.



At 14 years old I had a mans job and was responsible enough to know that putting something in my body that doesn't belong there was not smart. I turned down smoking at 10 because "DAMN that just ain't real intelligent". There are studies that show all kinds of crap. You can see the results you want to see, I don't care how objective you claim to be. Now I am pissed.

Probably shouldn't post this but I started this and I take responsibility for it.

We all do stupid things!How fast did you go through that turn?How much horsepower did you connect to that trans?How well built is that roll cage ,fire system,fuel cell?She said she was 18

QUOTE (sgomes @ Jun 24 2005, 08:53 PM)

Holy crap I'm so pissed right now I can't even keep typing.

i don't know, i can't speak for that kid or any of you guys.

i can only speak about myself and the people i called friends when i was 14 ...

and trust me, i *knew* what was going on around me and they knew as well.
no doubt about it ...

i have a few "tales" to tell if we ever get to sit down over a nice brewsky ...
Andy

QUOTE (Brett W @ Jun 24 2005, 05:27 AM)

I may be an insensitive ass with little to no compassion for others, how many kids have to die doing something retarded before they take responsibility for their actions.

Spoken like a true pot-hed. Get ready reefer boy cuz I'm gonna rock your world.

Are you ready? Ok, here it comes...


They can't take responsability if they're dead!




I need to put that one in the famous quotes thread.

I'm just happy my mom and dad didn't pratice birth control or have access to an abortion clinic....they also missed their chance when they moved when I was five....but, I found them again....

Jesus....lock this thread....

My ex and I educated my ex step kids about drugs and sex. I even helped them write reports on sex, drugs and rock and roll.

After all of that, I found the youngest girl (14 at the time) on three different occasions smoking weed, drinking alcohol, and having sex in our hot tub. All within a month.

Now she's at Arozona State. Honors student. Captain of her XXXXXXXX team.

She was a lucky one.

Her older sister was not so lucky.

QUOTE (rogergrubb @ Jun 24 2005, 10:44 PM)

My ex and I educated my ex step kids about drugs and sex. I even helped them write reports on sex, drugs and rock and roll. After all of that, I found the youngest girl (14 at the time) on three different occasions smoking weed, drinking alcohol, and having sex in our hot tub. All within a month. Now she's at Arozona State. Honors student. Captain of her XXXXXXXX team. She was a lucky one. Her older sister was not so lucky.

How did ya catch her? Got a nanny cam?

How much did ya make on VHS sales?


....JOKE......

Well Said Brett

I'm 18 and have done alot of stupid things (even done stupid things with dust off) , but I always knew the dangers of what I was doing and I was always was ready to take responsabilities for them. I would have never thought that inhaling dust off could kill you but it doesnt take much age or inteligence to realize that its not smart to do so.

okay, before this gets locked.....

let's just sit and talk here....

I think the situation of him knowing about the drug and its effects might be different between person to person.

for me personally, I never did drugs because i never needed to and i *KNEW* that they were bad.

The kid IS dead though, so let's try and show some compassion for this guy.

One of the kids that I went to school with last year passed away from viral menigitis. The kid was an asshole to me and yet when he died, I still found somewhere in my heart to forgive the kid and mourn the loss......

I can't even IMAGINE what his parents and siblings are going through. I once found a cat dead in my house (the dog apparently went mad and killed the cat) and even *THAT* was hard.


come on guys.....he's dead, regardless of whether he realized that he would die or not. From my experiences, kids usually tell kids all the "good" things about the drug...and not the bad.

"Yo man, this shiznit is raw...high as a kite you will be for time long" but not saying make sure you mix the dust off and O2 around 80/20( asked my dad and thats what he said he *COULD* mix Nitrous AKA laughing gas and O2 at....usually does it much more O2)
but nothing like "you'll die doing it, or you will be risking it"

I am upset about this and I don't even know the kid.