Full Version: Another timing mark
Trying to start my previously running engine after putting new seals everywhere and reinstalling it and my distributor. My distributor only goes in one way and clamps to the mounting bracket so it never moved it’s original position. So I put it in and just pulled #1 plug and watched it go to TDC on compression stroke. The rotor is pointing pretty closely to the contact on the distributor tower I have the #1 plug wire on. And have the wires on the cap CW 1-4-3-2. But can’t see the O at TDC Only this red notch and mark that was there when I bought the car. Now I’m even more confused because the pictures I’ve been looking at the red mark 27° mark doesn’t match the location it is on my fan. The red mark/notch in the pictures is next to a wide support fin, and mine isn’t. Any thoughts would be appreciated very much. It’s a 74 1.8 when I try to start it up it sputters and totally acts way out of time popping out of the carb a bit. Click to view attachment
Attached is a template that lists the timing marks.
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Attached below is a 2.0 impeller.
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It is possible to put the dizzy in 180 degrees out
The way to verify if you are on TDC of the firing stroke of the #1 cylinder - pop the valve cover off the #1 side and both rockers should be loose. If not, spin the engine 360 and check again.
Click to view attachment
Click to view attachment
Attached below is a 2.0 impeller.
Click to view attachment
It is possible to put the dizzy in 180 degrees out
The way to verify if you are on TDC of the firing stroke of the #1 cylinder - pop the valve cover off the #1 side and both rockers should be loose. If not, spin the engine 360 and check again.
Click to view attachment
QUOTE(shane @ Aug 6 2019, 08:19 PM) 
Trying to start my previously running engine after putting new seals everywhere and reinstalling it and my distributor. My distributor only goes in one way and clamps to the mounting bracket so it never moved it’s original position. So I put it in and just pulled #1 plug and watched it go to TDC on compression stroke. The rotor is pointing pretty closely to the contact on the distributor tower I have the #1 plug wire on. And have the wires on the cap CW 1-4-3-2. But can’t see the O at TDC Only this red notch and mark that was there when I bought the car. Now I’m even more confused because the pictures I’ve been looking at the red mark 27° mark doesn’t match the location it is on my fan. The red mark/notch in the pictures is next to a wide support fin, and mine isn’t. Any thoughts would be appreciated very much. It’s a 74 1.8 when I try to start it up it sputters and totally acts way out of time popping out of the carb a bit. Click to view attachment
Has anyone seen a red 27° mark in this location before? It’s no ware near the wide support fin?
QUOTE(shane @ Aug 7 2019, 10:30 AM)
QUOTE(shane @ Aug 6 2019, 08:19 PM)
Trying to start my previously running engine after putting new seals everywhere and reinstalling it and my distributor. My distributor only goes in one way and clamps to the mounting bracket so it never moved it’s original position. So I put it in and just pulled #1 plug and watched it go to TDC on compression stroke. The rotor is pointing pretty closely to the contact on the distributor tower I have the #1 plug wire on. And have the wires on the cap CW 1-4-3-2. But can’t see the O at TDC Only this red notch and mark that was there when I bought the car. Now I’m even more confused because the pictures I’ve been looking at the red mark 27° mark doesn’t match the location it is on my fan. The red mark/notch in the pictures is next to a wide support fin, and mine isn’t. Any thoughts would be appreciated very much. It’s a 74 1.8 when I try to start it up it sputters and totally acts way out of time popping out of the carb a bit. Click to view attachment
Has anyone seen a red 27° mark in this location before? It’s no ware near the wide support fin?
I would suggest you verify the markings on the impeller using the fin counting method in the 2nd photo above.
I think it will indicate that you are looking at fin #7 not #10.
shane...
on the 1.8 fan there is a red mark at 7.5 BTDC
on the 1.8 fan there is a red mark at 7.5 BTDC
I see thanks everyone 
the red threw me off, was thinking usually red is the 27° black 7.5° white TDC.
the red threw me off, was thinking usually red is the 27° black 7.5° white TDC.
QUOTE(Mblizzard @ Aug 8 2019, 01:36 AM)
Attached is a template that lists the timing marks.
Click to view attachment
Attached below is a 2.0 impeller.
Click to view attachment
It is possible to put the dizzy in 180 degrees out
The way to verify if you are on TDC of the firing stroke of the #1 cylinder - pop the valve cover off the #1 side and both rockers should be loose. If not, spin the engine 360 and check again.
Click to view attachment
The fan I'am using is a bus one as its all I have with my current build,they or most have the "0" marked and nothing else,Haynes manual states measuring 52.5mm and you get 27 degrees but that is for a FI motor,I will most likely mark to get 30 degrees as running carbs.
Cheers for that info Mike.
Dang that red fan looks good!!! I’m kicking myself for Not powder coating mine when I had the engine out 
QUOTE(shane @ Aug 7 2019, 01:04 PM)
Dang that red fan looks good!!! I’m kicking myself for Not powder coating mine when I had the engine out
Makes the marks really easy to see as well!
QUOTE(porschetub @ Aug 7 2019, 12:39 PM)
QUOTE(Mblizzard @ Aug 8 2019, 01:36 AM)
Attached is a template that lists the timing marks.
Click to view attachment
Attached below is a 2.0 impeller.
Click to view attachment
It is possible to put the dizzy in 180 degrees out
The way to verify if you are on TDC of the firing stroke of the #1 cylinder - pop the valve cover off the #1 side and both rockers should be loose. If not, spin the engine 360 and check again.
Click to view attachment
The fan I'am using is a bus one as its all I have with my current build,they or most have the "0" marked and nothing else,Haynes manual states measuring 52.5mm and you get 27 degrees but that is for a FI motor,I will most likely mark to get 30 degrees as running carbs.
Cheers for that info Mike.
To be clear I wish al, of what I posted was my brain. But the info was posted by a number of 914 people much smarter than me. I just happened to download that info. While I am remiss at not giving appropriate credit to those that came up with the info. It is al! Part of this great community.
QUOTE(Mblizzard @ Aug 7 2019, 06:48 PM)
QUOTE(porschetub @ Aug 7 2019, 12:39 PM)
QUOTE(Mblizzard @ Aug 8 2019, 01:36 AM)
Attached is a template that lists the timing marks.
Click to view attachment
Attached below is a 2.0 impeller.
Click to view attachment
It is possible to put the dizzy in 180 degrees out
The way to verify if you are on TDC of the firing stroke of the #1 cylinder - pop the valve cover off the #1 side and both rockers should be loose. If not, spin the engine 360 and check again.
Click to view attachment
The fan I'am using is a bus one as its all I have with my current build,they or most have the "0" marked and nothing else,Haynes manual states measuring 52.5mm and you get 27 degrees but that is for a FI motor,I will most likely mark to get 30 degrees as running carbs.
Cheers for that info Mike.
To be clear I wish al, of what I posted was my brain. But the info was posted by a number of 914 people much smarter than me. I just happened to download that info. While I am remiss at not giving appropriate credit to those that came up with the info. It is al! Part of this great community.
Well said
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