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second wind
Hello.....I need a side marker base and I go to 914 Rubber and their only offering is a $46 Auto Atlanta part. I thought 914 Rubber competes with AA so the prices can be more competitive? Did I miss their product offering? Are there any alternatives to the AA part? Just asking.....
Thank you,
gg
914werke
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rhodyguy
Perhaps Mark found the profit margin too slim to go solo development on this when all the beans are added up. Can't say as I blame him. 'Pimp' is rather rude.
fiacra
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Aug 23 2020, 01:53 PM) *

Perhaps Mark found the profit margin too slim to go solo development on this when all the beans are added up. Can't say as I blame him. 'Pimp' is rather rude.



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Also not fond of that term. Although I think it is often done innocently, I wish people who use it would take a moment to think about what a pimp really is and really does, and how they do it. It's a term rooted in misogyny and exploitation of women.

Pretty common for one company to sell another company's products. I don't see it as a big deal. Convenient to order all your parts on one site and only have to pay one shipping fee. Even Restoration Designs sells AA products. See post #250

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...0547&st=240
second wind
QUOTE(fiacra @ Aug 23 2020, 02:31 PM) *

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Aug 23 2020, 01:53 PM) *

Perhaps Mark found the profit margin too slim to go solo development on this when all the beans are added up. Can't say as I blame him. 'Pimp' is rather rude.



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Also not fond of that term. Although I think it is often done innocently, I wish people who use it would take a moment to think about what a pimp really is and really does, and how they do it. It's a term rooted in misogyny and exploitation of women.

Pretty common for one company to sell another company's products. I don't see it as a big deal. Convenient to order all your parts on one site and only have to pay one shipping fee. Even Restoration Designs sells AA products. See post #250

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...0547&st=240


No comment....
gg
914e
I find it helpful the companies sell each others products. I order from about all of them. Better then having a good size order from one of them, and then having to order one thing from the other. The small amount they mark it up is still less than the added shipping and handling for having to order it separate.
bandjoey
Both are loyal 914 people and yes $46 just think of the cost to make a batch (100) and it takes 5 years to sell them. I’m glad there are good people out there making the parts. Imagine Porsche making it for $149. These are not Fords or even VW parts.
JRust
QUOTE(bandjoey @ Aug 23 2020, 06:15 PM) *

Both are loyal 914 people and yes $46 just think of the cost to make a batch (100) and it takes 5 years to sell them. I’m glad there are good people out there making the parts. Imagine Porsche making it for $149. These are not Fords or even VW parts.

Exactly! Love really positive thought out threads like this headbang.gif

Why don't you just shave the side markers & be done with it
914_teener
QUOTE(JRust @ Aug 23 2020, 06:33 PM) *

QUOTE(bandjoey @ Aug 23 2020, 06:15 PM) *

Both are loyal 914 people and yes $46 just think of the cost to make a batch (100) and it takes 5 years to sell them. I’m glad there are good people out there making the parts. Imagine Porsche making it for $149. These are not Fords or even VW parts.

Exactly! Love really positive thought out threads like this headbang.gif

Why don't you just shave the side markers & be done with it



The thread title is offensive.

This is exactely what Mark was talking about.

Shaving the side markers would require some body work and skills.

Can.t get that at your local Wallmart and it makes $49 look like a bargin.
Front yard mechanic
Yeah show some respect its Mike not Mikey
ConeDodger
QUOTE(Front yard mechanic @ Aug 24 2020, 12:38 AM) *

Yeah show some respect its Mike not Mikey


It’s actually neither. Mikey914 is Mark Whitesell’s son. Mark has been selling AA parts for a while. I think George reciprocates.
second wind
Fine....I will just glue my old one to the fender. My 2000 Chevy S-10 needs a lower radiator fan shroud..dealer $117...internet $11 plus shipping totals $24 and arrived in two days. Why is everyone so cranky? I have spent hundreds of dollars with both companies and was just trying to find out where to get a lower priced part. I have been a professional recruiter for 25 years and have never been offended by the term pimp, flesh peddler, or anything close to that. What gives? Is this really an issue? My apologies to Mikey and no offense intended to George. When you have been in sales for 55 years you tend to grow a thick skin. I can't tip toe for everyone. And I have been in injection molding for several years. I get it....was just asking...sheesh!! Why is everyone so cranky?? I think this political correctness has gone overboard....I wish I could go to a swap meet and buy one for $5....I am too tired to argue this point....I think we have all hit our limit. May I never post a question ever again...
gg
porschetub
QUOTE(second wind @ Aug 24 2020, 05:14 PM) *

Fine....I will just glue my old one to the fender. My 2000 Chevy S-10 needs a lower radiator fan shroud..dealer $117...internet $11 plus shipping totals $24 and arrived in two days. Why is everyone so cranky? I have spent hundreds of dollars with both companies and was just trying to find out where to get a lower priced part. I have been a professional recruiter for 25 years and have never been offended by the term pimp, flesh peddler, or anything close to that. What gives? Is this really an issue? My apologies to Mikey and no offense intended to George. When you have been in sales for 55 years you tend to grow a thick skin. I can't tip toe for everyone. And I have been in injection molding for several years. I get it....was just asking...sheesh!! Why is everyone so cranky?? I think this political correctness has gone overboard....I wish I could go to a swap meet and buy one for $5....I am too tired to argue this point....I think we have all hit our limit. May I never post a question ever again...
gg


Wow,now that was a response w00t.gif ,what else did you expect in regards to comments of that nature ,not like you were taking out a big loan for a part.
Thinking that's why Mark @ 914rubber hasn't replyed,chill out man as we all have bad days ok and things aren't getting better in the next wee while confused24.gif ,take care ok.
Unobtanium-inc
QUOTE(bandjoey @ Aug 23 2020, 05:15 PM) *

Both are loyal 914 people and yes $46 just think of the cost to make a batch (100) and it takes 5 years to sell them. I’m glad there are good people out there making the parts. Imagine Porsche making it for $149. These are not Fords or even VW parts.

I remember when Mid-America Motorsports got out of the Porsche business they tried to sell us their left over inventory. One of the things that stuck me was how many of an item they had. Many times it was some knob or switch that they made because people "had to have it" and there were 937 in inventory. My guess would be they made 1000 and if on dozens of items they still had over 900 years later, that is not good business. Anyone who makes repro parts should be thanked, and thanked again, because for the one item that does sell well, two do not, and they eat it, like Mid-America did.
mb911
QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Aug 24 2020, 04:32 AM) *

QUOTE(bandjoey @ Aug 23 2020, 05:15 PM) *

Both are loyal 914 people and yes $46 just think of the cost to make a batch (100) and it takes 5 years to sell them. I’m glad there are good people out there making the parts. Imagine Porsche making it for $149. These are not Fords or even VW parts.

I remember when Mid-America Motorsports got out of the Porsche business they tried to sell us their left over inventory. One of the things that stuck me was how many of an item they had. Many times it was some knob or switch that they made because people "had to have it" and there were 937 in inventory. My guess would be they made 1000 and if on dozens of items they still had over 900 years later, that is not good business. Anyone who makes repro parts should be thanked, and thanked again, because for the one item that does sell well, two do not, and they eat it, like Mid-America did.




I agree 100%. George sells some of my stuff and I sell some of Mareks parts and sometimes even some 914rubber or AA parts.. I am as small of a company as there is. Work out my garage now and what keeps us all going is eachother.. I will tell you that I take no offense to the OP s post but I was not mentioned.
76-914
Edit the title of your thread and be done with it. It's both inflammatory and baiting in nature. mad.gif
fiacra
QUOTE(second wind @ Aug 23 2020, 10:14 PM) *

....I have been a professional recruiter for 25 years and have never been offended by the term pimp, flesh peddler, or anything close to that. What gives? Is this really an issue? .....
....I think this political correctness has gone overboard....
....May I never post a question ever again...
gg


In order:

- Yes, it's really an issue.

- I think the point is simply correct, and not political.

- Please keep posting questions. A question about the supply chain is actually quite valid, even if it was not phrased in a manner that was conducive to respectful dialogue.

Signing off and going back to actually working on a car. beerchug.gif
second wind
QUOTE(76-914 @ Aug 24 2020, 08:25 AM) *

Edit the title of your thread and be done with it. It's both inflammatory and baiting in nature. mad.gif


How do I edit the post? I will happily change it....
gg
second wind
Ok got it. Apologies to Mikey and George and all the others. Even a fish would stay out of trouble if it just kept its mouth shut.
gg
davep
QUOTE(JRust @ Aug 23 2020, 05:33 PM) *

Why don't you just shave the side markers & be done with it

Has the law changed so that the front side markers are no longer legally required?
If a legal requirement, but removed, will insurance cover an accident where visibility is called into question? Just what are the legal ramifications if you are caught doing so?
Wyvern
Ill send you one .. you pay USPS postage (about $8)
mepstein
QUOTE(davep @ Aug 24 2020, 12:28 PM) *

QUOTE(JRust @ Aug 23 2020, 05:33 PM) *

Why don't you just shave the side markers & be done with it

Has the law changed so that the front side markers are no longer legally required?
If a legal requirement, but removed, will insurance cover an accident where visibility is called into question? Just what are the legal ramifications if you are caught doing so?


I'm sure an insurance company lawyer could make a case for almost any modification. LED headlights, euro tail lights, lower than normal ride height, non stock steering wheel, etc, etc. but almost every style of vehicle has a hotrod following and I've never heard of people not getting covered due to their modifications. Think about what we do to our 914's, 3.6 conversions, Chevy conversions, electric motor conversions (adding hundreds of pounds to a car) mods to the suspension, brakes, bodywork, etc.

If $46 is too much for a reproduction specialty part, there is always used.
brcacti
Whenever I have to pay for a 914 part or service I have to remind myself that we are all lucky to have access to these old parts and people who know how to work on them. Example my 914 mechanic is part retired, just does smaller type repair jobs now.
dr914@autoatlanta.com
who else would be crazy enough to make 914 side marker bases then autoatlanta? Have over 500 in stock along with the replacement pegs. Really stupid to make that many but we had to or they would not have done them. Good part though


QUOTE(second wind @ Aug 23 2020, 01:30 PM) *

Hello.....I need a side marker base and I go to 914 Rubber and their only offering is a $46 Auto Atlanta part. I thought 914 Rubber competes with AA so the prices can be more competitive? Did I miss their product offering? Are there any alternatives to the AA part? Just asking.....
Thank you,
gg

rhodyguy
I can't imagine the tooling and production came cheaply. Gotta sell a bunch of them before you see a penny's profit. Thanks for undertaking this task.
flyer86d
Try Retro Automotive in Claremont, NH. Matt sells everything in preowned Porsche parts.

Charlie
Chris914n6
QUOTE(second wind @ Aug 23 2020, 10:14 PM) *

Fine....I will just glue my old one to the fender.

914rubber & others sell just the clips that hold it in. My base was fine, it was just the layers of double face tape the PO used that I had a problem with rolleyes.gif
Mikey914
Clips and or the seal should really be the only things you need. The base really doesn’t go bad. Any corrosion can be removed by soaking in apple cider vinegar.
It’s the right time to replace the lens seal I. That part of the seal tucks under the base.

I did however make my base seals a little different in that the seal side the lens fits into has a step like the lens for a better seal.
Also have the rubber boot for the wiring if you need it too.
Here’s how mine are different


As well as a visual on why now is a good time to change them out.
914werke
But not the clips/snaps?
Mikey914
Got the clips only too
They can be found here.
https://914rubber.com/side-marker-plastic-clip
914werke
Awesome.
second wind
QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Aug 24 2020, 08:29 PM) *

Got the clips only too
They can be found here.
https://914rubber.com/side-marker-plastic-clip


Who knew? I feel lower than a snakes belly in a wagon rut....you are the best Mikey and a shout out to you George. I remain humble and thank all.
gg
Mikey914
Don’t sweat it,
Fortunately there are options beer3.gif
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