Another cool resto thread! Sweet!

QUOTE (michel richard @ Jul 16 2005, 10:49 AM)

One Saturday morning, and the rust holes are pretty much fixed ! I also drilled through one of the three bolts that hold left hand side rear radius arm to the body.  The one bolt snapped when Jon was removing it.  I think I managed to save the thread, but I may end up using a longer bolt and a nut on top, just to be sure.  But that's some ways down the road. The main concern right now is getting the car media or sand blasted and primered. Michel Richard

Michel,
Looks like you`ve got in your hands a nice project!
For the broken rear radius arm bolts, I had the same problem with mine and I did just what you stated you would do. I drilled the broken bolt, removed the plastic cap on top and inserted a longer bolt and put a lock washer and nut. It barely shows and does the job.
Also when you get a chance, drop-moi un e-mail
Cantley914@videotron.ca
Good luck , I`ll follow your thread

Steph

Have'nt done much over the past two weeks. I'm waiting for a n oil cooler to come, so I can start fabbing the necessary air ducting up front. And I'll be picking up some oil system components tomorrow: a 1969 911S oil filter console and external oil thermostat, to be part of my GT-style oil system.

On the GT cars, there is a spacer between the oil filter console and the oil tank. Armando Serrano actually has detailed drawings of this part on his site:
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/23035926
And since it's a 914/6 GT only part, I figured my chances of finding one were close to nil. It's a simple part, however, and I had some aluminum stock in the shop, so I fabed the part. I'm quite happy with the result.

You must have quite a shop to have a block of aluminum like that just laying around! Nice work

Got a couple more parts, I should be able to make some progress on the oil cooling system. I'm now pretty much commited to a GT style layout:

Got an oil tank console from a 1969 911S. The spacer above fits between this part and the oil tank. It's a magnesium part and it's a little mangled, but I'm pretty sure I can make it work.

In addition, an external thermostat, also from a 911S of 1969. It appears that the 914/6 GT actually used a 917 part for this application, and this thermostat will need to be modified a little bit. The third hard part of the system is a oil pressure bypass valve, for lack of a better word, I hope to be able to fabricate that part too, but it will certainly be much more of a project than the spacer above.

QUOTE (michel richard @ Nov 5 2005, 05:39 PM)

I did some work on the oil line routing: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=ST&f=2&t=40932 And put an inspection port in the firewall: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=ST&f=2&t=40931 As to the steering column, I'm not sure I will end up using the following, but the current reasonning is that I need to fill-in some of the area around the steering column, on the dashboard, so I made the following piece:

hey michel!!

i'm really enjoying following your progress. if you decide to use the metal plates for the dash face basketweave, i have some repros of the "eyebrow" trim pieces.

doug

Doug,

I missed your post, somehow. I'm interested in your repro eyebrow pieces. I'll pm you.

Long time since the last update. I'm waiting for on oil cooler to arrive, I need it to make sure I cut the tub correctly in the front trunk. And until I've built the shrouding for the front oil cooler, I can't take the car to the paint shop.

So I've been working on some parts for the oil system.

The GT cars had a special wide mouth filler neck and I decided I would fabricate a reproduction. What it's supposed to look like is shown here:

http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/22496247

and installed in the car:
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/22265244
and:
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/22265243

I had this cap, from a British car, I think:

So I started from that and ended with this:

Not the prettiest, but it should work.

I'm also in the process of fabricating a pop-off valve, the one that attaches to the fitting right under the cap, on the neck. I think it's a part that was used on a few racing models. I assume it's horrendously expensive, and it's not too complicated. More on that to follow.

Cheers,

I started a separate thread to cover the engine work; see:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=ST&f=2&t=43047

Michel

QUOTE (ein 6er @ Dec 7 2005, 03:51 PM)

QUOTE (michel richard @ Nov 5 2005, 05:39 PM) I did some work on the oil line routing: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=ST&f=2&t=40932 And put an inspection port in the firewall: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=ST&f=2&t=40931 As to the steering column, I'm not sure I will end up using the following, but the current reasonning is that  I need to fill-in some of the area around the steering column, on the dashboard, so I made the following piece: hey michel!! i'm really enjoying following your progress. if you decide to use the metal plates for the dash face basketweave, i have some repros of the "eyebrow" trim pieces. doug

A message to all:

Doug sent me the "eyebrow" pieces he had, FOC. He would not even take shipping expenses.

This board is full of good people.

Michel Richard

And here they are:

Also made some progress on the oil system. I posted a picture of the oil filler neck above; I'll POR15 it this weekend. I'm also pretty much done with the pop-off valve, adjusting the pop-off pressure is what remains. Pictures of that part over the weekend too.

I've started another thread to solicit opinions on my plans for an oil radiator. Please see:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=0&#entry564046

Cheers.

I added a separate thread with several pictures of the progress I have made on the oil system. See:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=0&#entry565660

Spent a bunch of money today !

1) Bought a complete twin plug ignition system off the bird board. Picture is below.
2) I bought a Mazda 2nd generation oil cooler that I plan to have modified, to use as my front oil cooler. It was cheap. The expense is going to be the modifications and the elecrostatic, or electroaccoustic cleaning (whatever it's called)
3) Bought front and rear GT replica hoods from Getty Design, as well as front and back bumpers, front valance, rockers, and oil cooler shroud.

Phew . . .

The easy part is spending the money.... The hard part is putting it all together.
But I am sure u will get it done. Keep up the Good work.

Joe,

Thanks for your usual kind thoughts.

Speaking of the hard part. I spent the new year's weekend fabricating some hard oil lines to fit under the driver side rocker panel.

I had been thinking about alternatives for these lines for a long time. The originals are brass. I found a local source for brass tubing but the minimum order was pretty big and it was expensive. Amando Serrano mentions on his site that reporductions are available for US$ 800. I figured I could organize something for less, especially considering likely shipping charges for such a bulky item, across the continent and a border.

I looked into having them made locally, but no one had real interest in such a project.

And I like the satisfaction of making things myself even if the end product is not always exactly up to commercial standards.

So, I started by making some aluminum dies out of spare stock that I had. I turned these out of 4 inch stock. ( I often visit a local recycling yard to see what raw metal they have). I turned out a piece full round, then sawed the round turning into three separate dies, two of which are here.

I then bought some 1 inch diameter 1/16 wall round tubing in 4 foot sections at the local hardware store. I found I could bend the tubing fairly easily by clamping it between the dies on my bench top vise, bending a little, moving the dies, bending a little more etc . . .
There's quite a few bends involved. I made front and back sections, and mig welded them together, then I ground the welds flat.
Here's an overall view of the lines:

Sorry for the large pic in the previous post, I forgot to shrink it.

In any event, some of the bends came out quite nice:

While others have slight kinks. I plan to use these as they are:

So far, I've used clamps I made from simple flat stock. Not sure what I'll do in the end.

The exact shape and positioning of the lines is quite finicky, I found, in terms of getting the outer rocker cover to fit correctly.

I still need to weld some end fittings on the lines. I'm pretty sure I know a place where I can find fittings with the proper 30 x 1.5 thread. (mm)

Finally the other big challenge will be to get the inside of the lines spotlessly clean. I plan to use lots of mineral spirits and a brush that I'll run through the lines, then to coat the inside with POR-15 fuel tank prep material, after further proper paint prep. The temperature rating of the Por-15 stuff is at least twice what the oil temp is ever likely to reach. I'll probably coat the exterior with regular POR-15 paint.

The steel (as opposed to brass) and all the POR-15 are likely to reduce the cooling capacity of the lines themselves, but I figure that that function can't have been a huge factor to start with, in this particular application, since these oil lines see very little airflow under the outer rocker covers. The situation of the early 911 oil lines was quite different in this regard. Besides, one of the good things about living in Canada is that oil cooling systems don't need to be nearly as efficient here !

Got good news from the body shop, the tub is likely to go back for installation of the remaining flares, and for final paint in one or two weeks. After that, assembly begins in earnest, but it'll be nerve wracking !


Cheers

Michel Richard

QUOTE (michel richard @ Jan 4 2006, 10:00 PM)

I still need to weld some end fittings on the lines. I'm pretty sure I know a place where I can find fittings with the proper 30 x 1.5 thread. (mm)

These guys have all kind of Metric fittings also AN and Standard to Metric conversions.

If u do not see what u need on there website give them a call


http://www.batinc.net/mocal.htm

http://64.202.180.37/files/metric.pdf

Thanks Joe.

I decided to pay my bodyman a visit earlier today. He was in, and said he was real close to taking my car in. Talked about it a little more, phoned the tow truck and bang, the tub is back in his shop to have the flares welded on and the exterior of the body finished and painted. The fiberglass parts I bought from Getty design should be delivered pretty soon, directly to him.

So, the tub is at the body shop, and the engine is at the mechanic's shop !

Things will slow down a bit at my end, I'll build the halfshafts, build the rear trailing arms, build the split rear calipers, finish a lot of stuff on the oil system etc . . .

Cheers

I started a separate thread concerning the modification of my original /6 rear calipers.

Here:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=0&#entry580331

Thanks for looking.

I put the brakes away while waiting for some parts to come through the mail. Ran into a small issue with the CV joints that I have. Once again, I started a separate thread on that issue.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...=0&#entry586204

Cheers.

I received a Mazda RX7 oil cooler that I will modify to use in the front of the car. I started a separate thread about that part of the project. See:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...f=2&t=44825&hl=

Thanks for looking.

A lot of parts I ordered in ove the past few weeks have started arriving. A bunch of engine parts from EBS, including a 7R case, shuffle pinned, time certed and quite nice,

Here's the other half, with lower turbo valve covers. The covers will need to be machined to take the extra set of spark plugs:

2.0 rods, rebushed etc . . .

ARP bolt in the previous picture.
Plus, I got a bunch of ignition stuff. I would have liked to use a big 12 plug distributor, for the vintage look, but they're very expensive (even the recent alternatives) and can't b as reliable as this electronic system. Here's the coils:

and the trigger wheel:

Here's the detailed id of the system:

I gotta see this project some day Michel! You've got some pretty innovative stuff going on.

Steve, thank you. As soon as the engine is broken in I'm driving the car to Toronto, for a day or two on business. A stop in Kingston would only be natural.
Looking forward to it, it'll mean I've got a good runner on my hands.
Michel

Sounds good! Plan a dinner or something. BTW if you have another good chassis hook it up behind and drag it down! lol. I'm finding way too much rust in my poor old baby.

Gratuitous pic of one of my new pistons.
It's a JE piston, 10.5 to 1 (nominal) compression, 90mm.
Not a whole lot going on on the project, waiting for the tub to be flared and painted.

Body shop man is taking his time, because he's a one-or-two-man shop, and he's currently alone. But he's ok, even if he's not fast. I took a couple of days off work and he let me work on my car, in his shop. I want to put in a front oil cooler in the GT way, so I did that.

First, you make some holes in the tub. This requires a good set a cojones.

front hole:

oops,

And the bottom hole:

Because this means taking some metal out, and because it makes sense, I added a reinforcement across the tub. It anchors to the A-arm pick ups in the front. The welding is a little chunky, but that's just me, plus I was welding some pretty thick stuff to some thin sheet, and through to the A-arm bolt plates, on the underside of the tub. I'm satisfied it's strong, if not pretty.

Finally, a shot of the cooler shroud, as installed.

The two-piece shroud is from Getty design, in fiberglass.

Michel

I love that green on a 914.

When my sister-in-law saw the green at Christmas, she burst out with "Uglyyyyy". I like it too, but it may not be unanimous. She tried to catch herself afterwards with comments about 1970 colors being "different" etc . . .
A lot of the family ended up gently poking fun at her for having been un-polite at the hosts.
It was fun.

Michel

Michel, your sister in law must be American, we can be really rude sometimes. Great work on the car, I'm really enjoying seeing your progress. I'm GREEN with envy.

T.C.

And I'm considering the addition of a transmission oil cooler, just because it would be kind of cool (Hehehe).
The factory did it in at least a few cases, and used a sportomatic oil pump to circulate the oil. I explored those pumps in another thread:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...46939&hl=sporto
There's a number of pictures of the setup on Armando Serrano's site:
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/factory_origin...rts_901_gearbox
Here's what I received in the mail:

And another.

It's a neat pump, it bolts right to the cam carrier, or over the MFI belt pulley, if used and it has a built-in pressure relief valve.

Cheers