@Van B ok, you have not opened up a can of worms with your emissions warranty.
you have shone a light on things. i just had a good look back through our EC engine research stuff.
i think i can see something which puzzled me before doing EC engine research.
take a look at this.
(to slightly correct you, my car is not built within days of your car. mine is a good month and a half after yours and in 74 not 73).
but this car (image following) we found in our research of EC engines is built within days of yours. it was built on the friday 7 dec 73 and yours on the monday 10 dec 73.
i'd looked at it before and noted at first glance it had the same s curve hose from fan to lhs of can as my car but also noticed the can was around the other way from my car. pointy end of can oriented to lhs with fuel vapor line coming in that side. i thought someone might have reinstalled the can the wrong way around and messed it up. however its an extremely original car in all respects and in very good condition.
and the can in this orientation with this configuration of plumbing would match your emissions warranty from nearly the same date of manufacture.
Click to view attachment i would have loved to have been able to look inside the emissions warranty for this car.
its exactly like yours with the same diagram?
Click to view attachment my question to you, which i have not thought to ask before -
is which way is the can oriented in your car Van. is it with the pointy end to lhs and vapor line coming around to that end of it. along with fan line. and aircleaner line coming in to the rhs side which only has the one connection.
you can possibly see where i am going with this?
need a few more cars. just to work out if this yellow car is for real. i think it might be though.
I have the same question for steve
@StarBear as above. which way was can originally oriented in your car. yours is a 73 manufacture date like Vans. i know you lost the original emissions warranty steve and you have replaced it. but in the replacement one you have which diagram do you have in it anyway. is it the one like mine. or the one like vans. just to accumulate more material. and to rebuke that very naughty comment from jeff that mine was a misprint.
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now look at this one.
my car is end of jan 74 car.
it has the S shaped hose from fan to flat end of can with single port.
the single port is on the lhs.
on the rhs of can which is pointy side, it has the aircleaner hose and the vapor line.
and all of that matches the diagram in the emissions warranty and is original in terms of the engine bay. i have never changed it. the car is still original and was competely original when i bought it in 89.
now here is another example.
this was also part of EC research material we had.
this is the car the dr914 owned for a while in the AA collection.
very low mileage, very original 1.8.
the car is a feb 74 build.
it exactly matches mine.
the can is oriented the same way mine is.Click to view attachment i would have loved to have seen the emissions warranty for the AA car.
it matches the one that came with my car?
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i think we have been missing something else that was going on with the 1.8s.
yes they shift the can from frunk to the engine bay.
but it kind of blinded us maybe to a second change that happened which did not coincide with that. i had certainly been assuming that any change in the plumbing of the can co-incided with the change over to the engine bay can.
i don't think it did now. i think it happens after that. its pretty subtle, but i no longer think that yellow car with the can oriented the other way around is wrong. its correct for when it was manufactured and it accords with the design in place at the time?
its after that the design is amended and the plumbing is reversed.
the same thing happens with 911s by the way. during the 1974 model year the plumbing in the can was reversed. i did some reading up on this on the P P forum and came across the thread on the 911 evap emissions system. a very extensive thread covering it all in detail and including the diagrams. a posting on that thread noted the changeover in 911s occured mid model year 1974. that would be right around december73/jan 74.
i think we might be inching closer to cracking this mystery.
there are 2 changes to the evap system in 74MY?
1) can location changed to engine bay. known to be very likely Nov 20 1973.
2) can plumbing revised? probably start of jan 74? maybe?
having some more emissions warranties from 74 models (both 2.0 and 1.8) either side of dec 73 / jan 74 will start to shine more light on this.
i doubt it makes any difference to the function of the can.
and thats not the issue here with this thread - not which can works better in our opinion etc. i don't think anyone is right or anyone is wrong.
what i am interested in is that porsche changed it. we know that.they changed it on the 911 and they changed it on the 914.
all i want to know is the date they changed it.
and the details of the change.
which we just added potentially to with a detail previously overlooked.
namely there were two versions of the rear firewall of the engine bay variant?if that is so, no one has picked up that little detail before.
and it will only be on 1.8s too. not 2.0s.
it will be in that period of 1.8s after the change from the frunk can up until sometime between 10 Dec 73 and 25 Jan 74. because they are only building 1.8s during that period.
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i do have a view on the frunk cans in terms of how they work.
and this is not to add to the back and forth about pushing or pulling air, or does the fan blow air, or does engine induction suck air etc and etc.
and that is the frunk can had an inbuilt fault.
look closely at the vapor line.
it runs down hill from the expansion tank to the can.
vapor condensing in the line can run down into the can as liquid fuel.
thats one way to kill the charcoal in the can pretty quick.
911s with front mounted cans pre 74 do not have this fault.
they have an extra expansion vent tank that prevents condensed vapor running down into the cannister. this extra expansion vent tank is not in the original 914 front mounted can scheme.
i think fixing that fault is the reason for shifting the can to the engine bay.
the vapor line descends to go through the tunnel and ascends to get to the can.
any condensed vapor in the line runs downhill away from the can.
this is separate from the matter of then going on to rearrange the plumbing to the can after that.
more data is needed.
though in the end its only of interest to a restorer seeking authenticity.
and thats all this research is intended for.
just to lodge the material to assist restoration and to have it filed in the originality section of the website for future owners.