No pic of the longs or hell hole but I am putting my eyes on it. Don't really think I am going to rebuild it but if I pull the trigger I am definitely going to clean it up and try to get it moving again. 1982 was apparently when it was parked. The carbs and tires make me think that's about right. The dual webers look ... Interesting.
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I love how the djet stuff appears to be spread across every part of the car. Nice.

Really rusty car. Good luck.

Careful bringing it inside. Looks like lots of mouse houses.

Roached.

Good project for @bbrock now that his project is on the road! He’s in need of a platform for an electric conversion. Best to only do that to a vehicle that is otherwise a scrap candidate.

Someone should save it.

Plus if Brent takes it on, he can rehabilitate the mice, weasels, raccoons or whatever else has been living in it that will soon find themselves homeless.

I really want to see the rust. Much of it looks superficial. Looks.

You can’t go wrong it has an original frisbee and the checkbook on the dash

Nope. I'm only interested in fix-er-ups. This one's too nice

Those carbs are interesting. Bellcrank linkage too. Will be curious to see money shots of the longs and hell hole. Agree the car looks a mess but I'm not seeing any deal killers yet.

Here’s how I know this is a very rusty car. The lower part of the car will rust first. If you see a lot of rust on the cowl, it’s a rust bucket. I don’t blame you if you don’t believe me but you will figure it out one way or another. But like I said, good luck and enjoy the process.

genuine original condition low flight hours frisbee. worth a fortune.

Since it (apparently) sat for 40 years in a garage I am hoping the rust above won't be indicative of disaster below. However, those rockers don't give me much confidence. I will take pictures. I am going to look at it tomorrow.

Good one

Where in NY is this? I am in upstate NY too if you want a second set of eyes.

@bbrock

Then I think I found your electric resto candidate...

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Me too, I am available for a 3rd set of eyes if not too far from Buffalo. GLWP

great responses btw, my favorite is the checkbook on the dash

The car is up by Syracuse, Memphis NY.

I am going to try and arrive there at 1030 am tomorrow. If you guys want to join in on the fun I can PM you the address. I will be driving the Chalon.

I believe the same seller had another gem earlier this year, finally sold for 600 I think. It had the Gurney wheels, but similar condition. Maybe he has more

The plastic PORSCHE script rockers are a red flag to me - tells me they've already "been in there"....but yeah - interested to see how this progresses.

Yes, he mentioned that. Said it was ready to fold in half it was so bad in the rust department.

What struck me immediately is that the car has all of the stuff.

The dash is not cracked - how can that be?

I see many indications of a dabbler - not a bad thing but the frisbee and the HowTo book together is curious........looking for a bong emoji..........

All of the original stuff seems to be there - above the MasonDixon you will get rust, Passenger side Longs are where your costs will be focused. If the doors do not open, then there will be a great deal of UNIBODY repair work in your future.

Personally, I like it

Originality - 9
Rust - 4-5
Mechanical - 7 (it rolled and seemed somewhat straight
Color - 6 looks original - color changes are something you live with forever.

Sorry, but make certain your tetanus vaccinations are up to date. Hope you like welding.

Ha ha. At least we can see the longs on that one, and it doesn't look half bad. Better than what my car's looked like just a few years ago.



The plastic rocker covers killed about any optimism I have for the car, but until we get to peek under the skirt...

sadly, its got one of the best panel fits across the headlights, front trunk lid i have seen on a 914!!! heinrich and horst must have been sober.

a lot of parts there. perfect dashboard.
perfect shift knob. thats worth mega $ alone. seems to be a v g condition brown interior - superb
check out the aircleaner in the trunk. factory fresh decal!!!!!!

shame about the rust. get a desert body shell and transfer all the good stuff across?

yellow number plates are cool.

I didn't notice the dash. That kind of supports the barn housing all those years. I will make sure to get the vin too. Probably going to have to drive the mustang tomorrow... Looks like rain all day.

what a "shame" being "forced" to drive the mustang.

yeah the interior in the barnfind looks like it might be good under the grime - maybe.
thats smoothish brown vinyl on the seats too, not the basket weave stuff that is on my later 74. pretty nice. car is probably worth it for the interior if the critters haven't chewed it.

i noticed a couple of horn grilles in the front trunk too. look to be in perfect condition.
not to mention lenses on the car. there is actually a whole bunch of stuff if you added it up comes to serious $.

hey @emerygt350

there is something half interesting hiding behind the 914 in the barn.
can't quite work out what it might be but i am guessing its a little 1960s FIAT maybe.
not sure.

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99% sure its a morris 1100. thats a weird car to be sitting around in the USA.
there were stacks of those in aus in my childhood. why i knew it was something half familiar. its missing its grill. front wheel drive - similar mechanicals to the mini.
handles like a mini. wheels at the four corners. alec issigonis design.
probably right hand drive?

I saw that too. I can ask him about it. I think the car is away from the farm now so I probably won't be able to check that out.

Someone with a '71 914 6 would love to have that brown interior.
It might be the best part of the car.
Pretty unusual color combo on a no-appearance group early car

I agree, it's an Austin/Morris 1100. I think they were marketed as Austin Americans in the US, and most came with automatics. They had a fluid based suspension system, like Citroens. I can't imagine they were very good at dealing with US highways.
No-one's pointed out that the 914's steering wheel is in really good shape, that it has the black ignition key and the ornament attached to the key..... I vaguely remember what those were used for.

Yep, was an austin american. The guy got outbid on that one.

So... the longs are bad at the jack point. The rest of the car is really nice. Floors/firewall/frunk/trunk/quarters/sails all look really really good. The doors have some break through, and there are two spots below the sails (like really below, not part of the sail) that need help. Almost all of the other spots are just patina/surface rust.
I have some pictures and a video. The interior is very nice. One little tear on the drivers seat head rest. The key in the ignition looks amazing. 80k on the odometer. This thing is super strong, just that damn long. Hell hole looks terrible but the frame rail is solid. The only holes probably have saved it, near where the fuel pump mounts (not sure if it is there on a 71), and the superficial tin part (you can see it in the picture). The carbs and mainifolds are really neat. This would be a very clean looking setup. Carbs look fine. The chokes were closed. Choke butterflies are crusty but I cracked one open and the interior looks great. Needless to say, I am not interested in doing long repairs so it is up for grabs. Anyone wants Lenny's phone number, let me know. 2 others are already coming to look at it.

Putting the pictures in the next post.

That spot on the inside passenger sail behind the engine grill looks nasty in the picture but its just cruft and surface rust. I wiped it away later.

Here you go. We think the guy bought it maybe in 1981, put it in the barn and left it. He passed a while ago and his wife just went to a home or something. The family had no idea it was even in there. Buried under wood apparently.

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Here is the video

https://youtu.be/-QaZvrJK3w0

Vin is 4712904114
build date is 10/70
block is W0055051

It looks like it was given up on mid-project. The heat exchangers and the blower motor are gone but the old heater hoses are still laying around in the engine compartment.

Did you buy it? Might need a bit more than a buff, but most of us have been there

No, I just don't have the time for a project right now. If anyone is interested, I have the phone number. I believe he wants 1800, has the title.

Like I said, it’s a very rusty car.
Under $500 and I’m a buyer.

out of his mind

Really? I don't think it is nearly as bad as 3/4 of what I see on here. Longs by the jack point, the rest is superficial. Well, except those little spots.

I bought an Austin America like that for my wife to be in 1968, was a good basic car for her while I was in Vietnam for a year 1968~69. We drove it for about 5 yrs before trading it. It had the same engine as my Bugeye Sprite so maintenance was no problem, and the suspension and auto transmission worked fine for as long as we owned it.

Superficial - LOL!. If I had a dollar for every "superficial" rust spot that was really a thousand dollar fix. ...

The metal on a 914 is thin enough that when it's brown, there's not any solid metal beneath it. Many times the metal is rusting from the inside out. This is a much bigger project than you realize.

OMG - that car is Rooooached! $1800 is whacko!

Longs / hellhole - that is easily $1000 in sheet metal and Hundred (plural) of hours of labor right there. Don’t forget new door jamb sheet metal - adds another couple hundred for metal.

That rust on the cowl and under the windshield trim is almost always rot through once you pull the trim.

Mark is 100% correct - these cars rust from the inside out. It’s almost always 10x worse then what you can see. He’s also correct that Porsche sheet metal IS NOT like old American Iron sheet metal that can have surface rust and still be very solid. Most 914 metal is 0.037” thick. That is why these cars are so light vs 1970s American cars. Doesn’t take but 0.018” of “surface rust” and that area is done. You should have been poking metal with an pick / awl not a stick. A stick and taping on it tells you nothing. Not criticizing you - the video shows what it is. I think it’s cool you went to look and that you shared the video. I honestly would like to see it saved. But it takes a certain kind of crazy to save a car like that and a level of insanity to pay $1800 for the privilege of going down that rabbit hole.

I’ll leave the rest of it alone. The long / hell hole alone make it a solid candidate for scrap unless someone has solid skills and want a SERIOUS project and is mildly deranged. I’ll put myself in that category given that I purchased my car as a known project that would need the passenger long replaced. Even knowing that, my car still took more sheet metal than I originally thought it would.

Wow, I thought I was the first guy to look at it in person. Silly me, what do I know.

No offense intended toward you @emerygt350

Just saying it’s not an $1800 car as someone that has done the work that car would need.

interesting to know @beech4rd

as to suspension, believe it or not its superb. why they sold so many in aus and nz.
copes with very rough terrain and roads. australian roads back then made the most ruinous US freeway look like a billiard table. citroen had a similar rep down here with their ability to take on the worst kind of roads.

very tough little motor cars. i still saw them in use as daily drivers into the 90s.
beat up and faded. now all gone. just occassionally to be seen at enthusiast car shows.
an old girl friend of mine the bigger austin 1800 version. i didn't mind driving it.
unbelievable good handling. gutless engine.

my childhood is memories of sitting in the front seat of my fathers holden as we came up behind morris 1100s and austin 1800s with their big sticker in the back window.

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i'm with @Superhawk996 and @mepstein on that poor old thing.
its farked.
and it was farked when it was parked in early 80s.

but........ its full of v g c parts by the looks of it.

i suppose its value depends on the cumulative value of the useable parts and whether its of interest to someone with a sunbaked car they are restoring.

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on top of being thin steel in a 914 its also poor quality. karmann ghias suffered the same affliction. i'm not sure of the story but it is unusually poor quality steel that karmann were sourcing and using at that time which contributes to the rust problems.
karmann ghias were always joked about in australia as being soviet steel. they rusted even down here.

Hey, maybe I can con the owner out of the frizbee in the seat

Well here comes the contrarian. It's a serious project but I've seen much worse. I'm driving it now.

I know how much time, blood, sweat, and tears it takes to put one of these hulks back together and how much treasure you will spend in the process. That is NOT a scrap car. $1,800 is a bit too rich, but as a starting place for negotiation, I don't think it is crazy. I think somewhere closer to $1,200 is getting more reasonable. The right DIY guy can bring that car back with $20K invested and a LOT of time (although much less than I spent on mine) and probably get a $30K car out of it. The key as always with these projects is that you can't expect to recoup the value of hour time. These projects are done as a hobby for the challenge and satisfaction of doing what people tell you can't be done. It is not the cheapest or easiest way to get a nice 914, but it can be very rewarding.

I'll bet if I had started with this car rather than the one I have, I could have shaved a year or more off the build, and I still think I wound up in the black not counting my time. I say "think" because I haven't actually sold the car yet. Earlier this year a guy randomly stopped me and asked if I'd consider selling. I said everybody has a price and I shot him the ridiculously number of $60K. He looked at the car, said he didn't think that was out of line, and handed my his card asking me to call when I'm ready to sell. That's a long way from selling a car, but gives me some confidence I could get the $25K I put into the car and maybe a bit more. Doesn't seem bad for a car that many said should be scrapped.

Yeah, I don't mean to be abrasive but this isn't my first circus. Watch the video. Most of that stuff is surface, yes surface, almost patina, and it was from sitting in a barn getting shit on. Not driving and abuse. The longs are bad by the jack points, the floors are awesome. I was there, I know. I would be tempted to shine it up and sand blast the bits so it looks nice and flip it for 4k but I don't have that kind of energy or time at the moment. The car is nice. I think it is worth what he is asking, that's me. I had my fingers I the hell hole dirt. It's good and solid. Concourse? God no, but your buying a 914 that had a million generations of mice living in it. Show me the car you "would buy" and I will ask you for 8 grand.... And you will still have to rebuild the longs and the hell hole. And probably the frunk too.