QUOTE(Jack Standz @ Oct 8 2023, 06:04 PM)
BTW the last time I had drilled rotors (like your new Zimmerman ones) turned, most every shop wouldn't do them. Said it ruins their cutters or something. Seems like a shame to replace the rotors if you're only looking at a very light cut that won't be problematic with the chamfers on the holes.
A rotor with any surface breaks will TRASH the carbide tips on a brake lathe.
Drilled or slotted cannot be turned on a standard brake lathe.
All rotors can be Blanchard ground. This is how flywheels are turned and requires a single side to be machined, the rotor is flipped over, and then the other side is machined.
This DEMANDS excellence from the machine shop as both surfaces are not machined at the same time and a TINY deviation in how the rotor is chucked up will vastly affect your rotor run out.
It's also expensive as it amounts to two flywheel machining operations with a rechuck between the jobs that really needs to be verified with a dial indicator.
This is the main reason why I just replace most rotors now:
When you have your normal rotors turned at your flaps ask the guy doing the machining "when is the last time you changed your tips?"
Nowadays the answer is a confused look, and they say "The tips can be changed? I didn't know that."
The proper way to turn a rotor with a standard brake lathe is to use a fast feed speed when you're trueing it. Once you get a complete clean pass on each side you turn the feed speed to its lowest setting and take a final pass at .001 on both sides and pull the trigger.
This last cut takes a half an hour, you cannot see the machine actually feeding, you HAVE to walk away and listen to the hiss/whistle to tell when you are done.
Any change in the tone of this noise needs to be investigated/corrected.
Anti-vibration straps and pads should be employed and when the final cut is complete you take your 90 degree die grinder with a 200+ grit pad and sand the perfect almost mirror smooth finish creating surface finish that looks a lot like a Blanchard ground part.
This omni-directional pattern helps initial bed in like nothing else!
If you ask for this at your flaps you will receive the "deer in headlights" look and MOST will tell you that they don't have any anti-vibration equipment and their machine does NOT have an adjustable feed speed. They will NOT have a die grinder set up for the final surface finish and they will not understand WHY this stuff is necessary.
You take your rotors to a proper machine shop and all this crap happens automatically...
No-one in Granbury does it properly. My machine shop Automotive Machine is a 45-minute drive away from me. They are busy and will not do a rotor while you wait. You drop off in the morning and pick up later that day or the next.
So, for me it's two 1.5 hour trips and 30-35 each for the work.
I replace 98% of the rotors I deal with now.
I'd love to have my own brake lathe but decent ones are 4K+ and all that machine does is rotors and drums. It takes up a "tool box" worth of space in the shop and is not a cost-effective tool for me to own.
Most new rotors (even the cheap shit ones) come Blanchard ground.
Last time I checked with AM on having a set of drilled rotors Blanchard ground it was 110 per rotor. The customer decided to just purchase new drilled rotors at those prices.
These are the guys I use. If they were close to me, I'd have more rotors machined over automatically changing them.
https://www.automotivemachine.com/