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jim_hoyland
What is the voltage output at the end of a USB connector. The input plug is at the cig lighter receptacle.
I assumed it would be 12v, but, heard it might be 5 v ???
FlacaProductions
USB power is always 5v

USB 2.0 - 5V - Max output 2.5W
USB 3.0 / USB3.1 - 5V - Max output 4.5W
windforfun
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jim_hoyland
Thanks, thought it
SirAndy
Looks like USB can go up to 48V for power delivery but is 5V otherwise:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB

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worn
QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 23 2024, 09:31 AM) *

Thanks, thought it

I did it myself for a USB outlet. Turns out that I had to make resistor connections to keep the data pins at the right voltages to suit Apple.
jim_hoyland
QUOTE(worn @ Mar 23 2024, 06:34 PM) *

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 23 2024, 09:31 AM) *

Thanks, thought it

I did it myself for a USB outlet. Turns out that I had to make resistor connections to keep the data pins at the right voltages to suit Apple.

What size resistor would drop 12v to 5v. ?
fixer34
QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 23 2024, 09:04 PM) *

QUOTE(worn @ Mar 23 2024, 06:34 PM) *

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 23 2024, 09:31 AM) *

Thanks, thought it

I did it myself for a USB outlet. Turns out that I had to make resistor connections to keep the data pins at the right voltages to suit Apple.

What size resistor would drop 12v to 5v. ?

Depends on the current load you are expecting to pull. At a minimum you need two resistors in series to tap the middle point, or resistor/zener diode combination.
Rather than build it yourself though, go buy a couple cigarette lighter adapters and open them up to see what they use for circuitry. Build that into a USB port if you want.
windforfun
QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 23 2024, 07:04 PM) *

QUOTE(worn @ Mar 23 2024, 06:34 PM) *

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 23 2024, 09:31 AM) *

Thanks, thought it

I did it myself for a USB outlet. Turns out that I had to make resistor connections to keep the data pins at the right voltages to suit Apple.

What size resistor would drop 12v to 5v. ?


Goggle “divider network.”
Montreal914
Why not use something like this?

First one that came up with initial search, I am sure many other can be found. smile.gif

Click to view attachment

https://www.amazon.com/Cllena-TOYOTA-Dashbo...vD_BwE&th=1
Retroracer
@jim_hoyland a better question might be: what device are you trying to get power to?

- Tony

lierofox
A USB charger that plugs into a cigarette lighter plug already does the voltage step down process for you.

Unless a device plugged into the USB port specifically requests a higher voltage (like a tablet, or a laptop), USB will ALWAYS default to outputting 5v.
jim_hoyland
QUOTE(Retroracer @ Mar 24 2024, 09:16 AM) *

@jim_hoyland a better question might be: what device are you trying to get power to?

- Tony

I’m going to power a HUD directly to the fuse panel. The HUD say max voltage is 5v.
So, I want to step the v down under the dash.
This is A MPH HUD, not the fancy ones that plug into an OB receptacle
windforfun
QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 24 2024, 12:52 PM) *

QUOTE(Retroracer @ Mar 24 2024, 09:16 AM) *

@jim_hoyland a better question might be: what device are you trying to get power to?

- Tony

I’m going to power a HUD directly to the fuse panel. The HUD say max voltage is 5v.
So, I want to step the v down under the dash.
This is A MPH HUD, not the fancy ones that plug into an OB receptacle


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_divider
jim_hoyland
QUOTE(windforfun @ Mar 24 2024, 01:54 PM) *

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 24 2024, 12:52 PM) *

QUOTE(Retroracer @ Mar 24 2024, 09:16 AM) *

@jim_hoyland a better question might be: what device are you trying to get power to?

- Tony

I’m going to power a HUD directly to the fuse panel. The HUD say max voltage is 5v.
So, I want to step the v down under the dash.
This is A MPH HUD, not the fancy ones that plug into an OB receptacle


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_divider


Interesting; if I go to the electronic shop, what should I be buying ?
SirAndy
QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 24 2024, 12:52 PM) *
I’m going to power a HUD directly to the fuse panel. The HUD say max voltage is 5v.
So, I want to step the v down under the dash.
This is A MPH HUD, not the fancy ones that plug into an OB receptacle

What does the power connector for the HUD look like?
How does it normally get power?
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fixer34
No affiliation, but I don't think you can build something for this price...

https://www.temu.com/ul/kuiper/un9.html?sub...YBoCb5oQAvD_BwE

r_towle
Buy a 5 dollar cigarette lighter converter and break it open.
There will be the circuit and resistor
technicalninja
QUOTE(fixer34 @ Mar 24 2024, 06:24 PM) *

No affiliation, but I don't think you can build something for this price...

https://www.temu.com/ul/kuiper/un9.html?sub...YBoCb5oQAvD_BwE


That's sort of cool if it really can deliver 5a at 5v.
FlacaProductions
Why not just use the power supply that came with it?
jim_hoyland
QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Mar 24 2024, 05:45 PM) *

Why not just use the power supply that came with it?

The power cable has USB connectors at each end; I want to power it directly off the fuse panel.
SirAndy
QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 24 2024, 05:47 PM) *

QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Mar 24 2024, 05:45 PM) *

Why not just use the power supply that came with it?

The power cable has USB connectors at each end; I want to power it directly off the fuse panel.

Ok, then get a USB adapter that normally plugs into the cigarette lighter and simply connect 12V from the fuse panel to the center contact and ground to the side contacts on that adapter.
That way, you can simply use the usb cable that came with your HUD and everything fits with no other modifications needed.
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SirAndy
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 24 2024, 05:55 PM) *

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Mar 24 2024, 05:47 PM) *

QUOTE(FlacaProductions @ Mar 24 2024, 05:45 PM) *

Why not just use the power supply that came with it?

The power cable has USB connectors at each end; I want to power it directly off the fuse panel.

Ok, then get a USB adapter that normally plugs into the cigarette lighter and simply connect 12V from the fuse panel to the center contact and ground to the side contacts on that adapter.
That way, you can simply use the usb cable that came with your HUD and everything fits with no other modifications needed.
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Like dis ...
jim_hoyland
Found this on Amazon:
SirAndy
That should work.
And if you're running this off the fuse panel, make sure you're piggy-backing off a switched terminal so the power to your HUD is turned off when the key is off.

Otherwise, that thing will drain your battery in a hurry ...
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FlacaProductions
or one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FJ8OXX...=UTF8&psc=1

red to + and black to ground. plug in the adapter andy shows in post 23 and bob's your uncle.

put two female spade connectors on it, get two piggybacks, pull the ashtray, reach in and use the connections on the back of the cigarette lighter. one most forward in the car is + and the one on the side is ground.
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