Looking over the pictures of the Dunkel event, I notice that there are pretty much 2 ways that folks seem to go with mirrors. They either stay stock or go with something that looks like the cheap Italian mirrors that you can get at any FLAP. In my opinion the later make a really fine car look really bad.

On my car I tried putting 911 mirrors on (the rectangular ones). These met my goals of a larger mirror surface and a mirror with "break away" functionality so that I wouldn't have to readjust them every time someone bumped them. The problem with these is the holes that you have to cut into the doors and the difficulty of getting this right. Fortunately, I was working with old doors that I planned to replace 'cuz I didn't get it right.

So does anyone know of an aftermarket mirror that meets these goals and is easy to mount? How about a foolproof way to mount either the rectangular or oval style mirrors from the 911 or newer Porsches?

There is one that I saw in the Dunkel pictures that looks like it could fit the bill, but I don't know what it is. Anybody know? http://www.pelicanparts.com/swapmeet_pics/...ML/Page-691.htm

Its another cheapy from your local flaps. Same "Vitoli" brand as the baby turbo that was really popular on the VW bugs way back.

Great thread idea. I personally stay stock unless the car has GT flares, then a larger mirror doesnt look bad on the car. I hate coming up from behind a 914 with huge mirrors. It reminds me of the kids we used to make fun of in school with big ears (OH, wait that was me..LOL)


B

I agree, on a 914 with some kind of flares I think 911/944/928 flag mirrors look good.

The problem as I see it (and I've been looking at it) is that 99% of factory mirrors these days don't mount on the door like ours but in the triangular area between the A pillar and the door. So you're looking at either adapting those (more work than most people want to take on), using the flag mirrors, or some other aftermarket POS.

I've been looking for a pair of flag mirrors to go on my car for a while now. Just waiting for the right pair at the right price.

I agree that STOCK is the way to go.. I have two sitting in my garage waiting
for the repaint.

My car currently has VITALONI BABY TORNADOs. These don't look all that bad
but definitely not stock. If you like the clean look, you can paint these to match
the car.

Good luck!

i've been thinking about those:

VITALONI CALIFORNIA CUSTOM MIRRORS
painted in body-color? i think they would look good on a wide body car.

I have been toying with putting some of these on attached to the triangle glass...



I personally like the ones on the top right...

hmmm, those ain't bad either. carbon-fiber look.
that would go nicely with my carbon-fiber 911 dash ...

cha914, who makes them????

later,
Andy

Andy,

I put those on the race car when I first got it. Don't waste your time. You can't see shit out of them. I ended up throwing them in the trash!

I've got a pair of original mirrors that I'll use on the '72 and I'm looking for another pair for the race car.

That plastic crap is crap!

CHA914, there are quite a few racecars with them on it, I think the A-Pillar is where you want to attach them, not the glass. Here is a good pic of really nice 914 with the top ones in your pic.


Pegasus Racing sells those in plastic and CF.

Since I've posted this pic, does anyone know where that wing came from?

It is the nicest big ol wing I've seen on a 914.

It's the uprights that impress me.

almost looks like it has shocks on it! or is that just the shadow?
can't really tell ...

humpf, so the mirrors are too small, eh?
hmmm, anyone ever used the 911 electrical ones?

Andy

The other problem with aftermarket mirrors is that I don't see anyone making them with parabolic glass for the passenger side. That's another vote for the flag mirrors for me.

The small carbon fiber looking ones dont use glass. Its a mirrored tape. We use one on my tube car.

That wing is similar to what Roger Sheridan uses. It sits on two oval shaped tubes supplied by aircraft spruce.

If you really want to know where the wings come from.. I can cough up the info.

B

The uprights look like they are adjustable, possibly from in the car like sway bars.

Anyone else see that, or am i hoping?


The mirrors from Pegasus do come in Convex and Flat versions.

Here is the Link for Pegasus:

Pegasus Mirrors

Yes, in fact that car is my current wallpaper on my office PC!

I am fairly certain the guy who just did some of the suspension work on my car was one of the builders (suspension mainly) of that yellow car. His name is George Browne. I am not positive that is one of his wings, but he does have his own leading-edge wing design that is fabbed in c/f and significantly cheaper than some of the others on the market. The Ottos cars have similar wing setups, which he also did.

George also knows Kerry Eisenlohr (sp?) the ERP guy and they supposedly share ideas about suspension bits and setup instruments, like laser bump steer gauges and that kind of thing. He has a very old and very superficial web page here http://www.zpeed.com/browne&son.html His email may not be working right now but he can be reached thru Ottos usually.

These guys are little far, but offer a good selection:
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/
Look in the catalog under mirrors.
Gavin
'70 vintage race 6

Chris,

I used to keep an 8x10 of that picture hanging in my office in Hollyweird when I was there.

It still confuses me about 914-GT look or Sheridan body kit.


Now that I've got a 914 for the street I may do Sheridan's narrow kit, but damn, I like the looks of a 914-6 GT.
Any opinions on the subject?

Start a new thread on the body work. (Just got off the phone with Roger..so I'm a little biased) LOL

Andy (my favorite American hater.lol) The mirror you pictured wont work on the 914 door unless you mount it way down the side of the door. I tried them back in 1993 or so on a 914. They dont lay over far enough. They end up in the air and not flat like you see them. The mounting base doesnt allow them to lay out flat. I like them a lot, but tried and tried to make them work.


B

now wait a minute!
i don't hate americans! i love them!
if fact, i'm about to make love with a very lucky all american girl in just a few minutes. i'm going to be one happy tonight

Andy

Andy, pleaz spare us the details, danke schön

I've got a good pic of the yellow car's rear wing
The uprights are adjustable to change the angle of the wing IIRC
I'll post the pic when I get home tonight...

On the fg body work...
I finally found a shop that would send a full set of GT flared fenders across the big pond without bankrupting me, so I should have these pretty soon!
(yes, I'm exited, can you notice? )

For the mirrors...
I think the 911/944 flag mirrors are a bit on the bulky side for a narrow bodied 914
You should try and find the 924 flag mirrors. They look very similar, but are somewhat slinkier

cheers,

Jeroen

Well, I like old Talbot-style mirrors.....

Jeroen,

Can I ask you where and for how much you managed to get fiberglass GT flares imported from the US. Do Mittelmotor not do these? Just toying between fg GT flares and the rabbit flare options.

Crawf

I'm not talking just the flares, but complete fenders (bumper to door) with flares
(nobody has those in europe)

If you only need the flares, Mittelmotor should have them

Then again... I might be tempted to sell the steel gt-flares that are on my car now

cheers,

Jeroen

Timo,

Can you see out of those?
They look like they may be a little far back.

My 356 had one of those on it, they are nice, but not my choice on a teener.

Yes, I can see "something"....

They are nice mirrors, but I can use it only in the drivers side. There is no hope to mount it to the passanger side. I bought two mirrors, test fitted them and had to give up the idea having two mirrors.

My mirror is with convex glass. It helps a little. I also had to mount it so, that it is not exactly in line with the center of car. It is a little inclined. It is hard to see from the picture and even harder to explain. Hope you understand.

If I had moved it more back, I should have mount it more inclined. It is in quite a good place now although it is a compromise. I spend a lot of time finding the "right" place....

Timo,

I'll have to check on mine as I also have talbot mirrors. They are installed on both sides too... Go figure!

Some like them, some don't.

here is the only shoot of the passengers side that I have:

Marc-Andre

sorry, I have taken so long to get back to you guys...

the mirrors I posted can be had any number of places...but the pic came from the listings at

www.racerpartswholesale.com

and as far as I know the carbon ones are really carbon...but they also have them in fiberglass and plastic for reduced prices...

Brad, if these use reflective tape, how well do they work?

Thanks,

Tony

Regarding 924 mirrors, the challenge is still how to get them right the first time. You don't want to go cutting holes in your door unless they are right. Another question is how well the base matches the curve of the 914 door. I've had the impression that the 911 mirrors fit the 914 door better, but I haven't had a chance to actually test this. Is there a write-up anywhere on mounting these mirrors on doors that were not originally designed for them?

Ernie

My mechanic used a mirror from an old Ford Escort on a car he did about 10 or so years ago. It looks much like the Porsche Flag mirror and fit the contour very well.

Maybe I'll 'borrow' the photo next time I'm there.

Seanery, funny that you bring this up!!

Look here:

Ford escort mirrors on 914!

Marc-Andre

Look pretty good, huh?

I bet they're about 10 bucks each at a pick-a-part.

I've got gutted steel doors on my race car. I mounted a pair of Vitaloni Sebring mirrors on the doors close to the windshield pillar. The mirrors are plastic so I tried to dish the bottom of the mount to fit the curvature of the door. The fit was barely OK and damn sure nothing special. Biggest problem was trying to mount passenger side so it looked decent. Then you couldn't adjust the mirror to see anything except a couple of feet to the side of the rear bumper and maybe 20 to the rear on that side. Have to keep a close eye of other cars with the wink mirror mounted inside. In short a piss poor solution.

My car had the Vitaloni California mirrors (see Andy's post on the previous page) on it when I got it

They are only adjustable up and down over the mounting base, so you can't set 'em up on the teener decently
I think they were the first part of the car that I threw in the trash

Later I saw them in a catalog and noticed the price, aw god, did I just junk those

Well, I couldn't use em no the car anyway...

cheers,

Jeroen